OhForAGreavsie 6,092 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Rapkun said: What was reported is: Chelsea grows tired of negotiations with Bakayoko because of a big number of intermediaries. A meeting with Lyon's president and chelsea's representatives is held. Meeting probably happened at the request of Lyon who are interested in Traore (Lacazette potential replacement). During the meeting Chelsea asks about Tolisso and Lyon expresses an interest in Zouma. There was no further details about Tolisso but it was said Zouma would not make a decision about his future yet. According to reports thats all Chelsea did, ask about Tolisso's situation. So you mean to imply that unless someone reports it, it doesn't happen? I'll be honest, I don't think you can really believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,092 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 7 hours ago, nyikolajevics said: Because we don't need a better version of Dembele, we need a better version of Matic. A tall, strong defensive midfielder who helps Kanté out. I don't see how Tolisso would fit in. Dembele is a better version of Matic. I consider him to be exactly the player we need. A player who mirrors his attributes is therefore precisely what I'm hoping for. Is that Tolisso? I watched Lyon several times after he was first linked a few months ago. I like him but I have not seen that he is able to retain possession under pressure as well as the Spurs man does. Even so, I would be happy to have Tolisso. He has applicable attributes of his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashimaru161 77 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Dembele is a better version of Matic. I consider him to be exactly the player we need. A player who mirrors his attributes is therefore precisely what I'm hoping for. Is that Tolisso? I watched Lyon a few times after he was first linked a few months ago. I like him but I have not seen that he is able to retain possession under pressure as well as the Spurs man does. Even so, I would be happy to have Tolisso. He has applicable attributes of his own. Bakayoko is what we need, strong, good in the air (kante glaring weakness) I have seen him being able to dribble pass two or three man comes after him then pass ball to others. His passing range still leave something to be desired though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,092 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 12 hours ago, Mufassir08 said: What? They are reliable as far I know! I even remember them being one of the first to report that Eden was coming here. What does reliable even mean in this context? The appetite among football fans for transfer rumours is voracious. The willingness of agents, clubs and players to provide the stories which feed those rumours, for their own purposes of course, is endless. Media outlets therefore have a plentiful supply of material and they know they can make money by giving audiences what they want. In order to achieve "reliability", those outlets would need to filter out the rumours they know to be plants. In a wildly competitive market however they know their audience can get that same rumour somewhere else. Filtering stories therefore has the potential to cost them revenue. When no one really expects the majority of transfer stories to be accurate anyway; when online revenues are so hard to come by; and when they can honestly claim to have a source for a story, then aren't we asking too much of them to make the sacrifices necessary to achieve reliability? In any case, there is often a direct, reciprocal relationship between media and sources. "If I get this obvious plant out there for you, you owe me when you have something real to say. Deal?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,092 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 1 hour ago, mashimaru161 said: Bakayoko is what we need, strong, good in the air (kante glaring weakness) I have seen him being able to dribble pass two or three man comes after him then pass ball to others. His passing range still leave something to be desired though. I also like Bakayoko. Indeed, as I said in my first post about Tolisso all those months ago, I really like the quality of player we are being linked with recently. That comment was true then, and is mostly true now.. I remember some seasons when, never mind the players we actually signed, even the ones we were linked with weren't great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 8 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: So you mean to imply that unless someone reports it, it doesn't happen? I'll be honest, I don't think you can really believe that. Normally, I would agree. but in this case Chelsea just enquired about Tolisso in a meeting held by another team to sign one of our players. It happens that clubs ask about multiple players during meetings. It was probably just an attempt to have a plan B in place in case the Bakayoko deal fell through, or a negotiation tactic to show that they're interested in other players. I'm pretty certain Bakayoko was the number 1 target all long and that's a real shame. Tolisso is very versatile, a great athlete, scores loads of goals, decent passer, brings a lot of energy in the game. Timeoue is very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 21 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Dembele is a better version of Matic. I consider him to be exactly the player we need. A player who mirrors his attributes is therefore precisely what I'm hoping for. Is that Tolisso? I watched Lyon several times after he was first linked a few months ago. I like him but I have not seen that he is able to retain possession under pressure as well as the Spurs man does. Even so, I would be happy to have Tolisso. He has applicable attributes of his own. No, Tolisso is an all rounder in the mold of Ballack/Lampard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,092 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 2 hours ago, The Skipper said: No, Tolisso is an all rounder in the mold of Ballack/Lampard. Yes, I agree with this. In his younger days, at AZ in particular, Dembele did opperate further forward, but he's found his home in the role he plays for Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Sicarius 610 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Sad very sad. We should get him instead or with Baka. He would be great sign for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,299 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Last Sicarius said: Sad very sad. We should get him instead or with Baka. He would be great sign for years. Reasons? What don't u like about baka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Sicarius 610 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 6 hours ago, BluesMadLad said: Reasons? What don't u like about baka? He reminds me Matic. He puts his play style on his posture like Matic. We needs someone who can open a goal with one pass and can defend. He can fit in out team in 3-middle with Kante and Fabs. Tolisso is more creative(he can spread a ball nicely) and has some defence skills. Perfect to two man middle with Kante. Sure Baka is young but hmmm we should ask for better options. My dream is Vidal :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 20 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Yes, I agree with this. In his younger days, at AZ in particular, Dembele did opperate further forward, but he's found his home in the role he plays for Spurs. Yeah, he used to basically play F9 for AZ, top player. His transition to midfield has been superb. Sure we nearly signed him? Or were interested at least. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Last Sicarius said: He reminds me Matic. He puts his play style on his posture like Matic. We needs someone who can open a goal with one pass and can defend. He can fit in out team in 3-middle with Kante and Fabs. Tolisso is more creative(he can spread a ball nicely) and has some defence skills. Perfect to two man middle with Kante. Sure Baka is young but hmmm we should ask for better options. My dream is Vidal :/ Baka is actually quite similar to a young Vidal, so if that's your dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, the wes said: The rich get richer, can't blame the player Bayern are such a hard team to turn down. Seems as though Baka was Contes first choice though which makes me feel better (As long as we sign him) about missing out on Tolisso. Enjoy the bench seat right next to Renato Sanches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Did Bayern also sign Goretzka or plan to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Sicarius 610 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 12 hours ago, The Skipper said: Baka is actually quite similar to a young Vidal, so if that's your dream... Well if he improve passes/crosses i will be very happy. He is young so he can be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Did Bayern also sign Goretzka or plan to? I hear he will sign for them soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Last Sicarius 610 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Fuck this shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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