🇪🇸 Marcos Alonso

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18 hours ago, manpe said:

Could have done without the "one of the best" bit, damages his credibility, but other than that it looks encouraging when he doesn't play in a cup final.

If you've noticed MOST of the season in interviews Sarri has players backs and only calls them out when its been necessary.

 

He probably just didn't want to rub salt in the wound and make him sadder and things more fragile than they already are.

Lets hope Emerson  pays back the faith us supporters are giving him and has a good game tonight eh!

[Jase 43,479]

Assists in 2018/19:

Azpi - 6
Alonso - 5 (four of the assists came in the first four games of the season)

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10 minutes ago, Jason said:

Assists in 2018/19:

Azpi - 6
Alonso - 5 (four of the assists came in the first four games of the season)

Two of those assists were him getting fouled in the box 

[Special Juan 28,141]

Looked half decent last night, still shite though.

[ja1 1,166]

Yeah he did play ok last night, he did well defensively but poor offensively although a couple of decent long balls to Hazard and Pedro respectively. The power of competition eh. I do wonder now whether Sarri will keep rotating (that would be very un-Sarri like actually though he does do that in wing positions and Kova position) or does he think Alonso is now played back in form as his first XI LB and keep him in side? 

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? for all Alonso' s sadist

[manpe 10,861]

Why was he being booed against spurs?

[Jase 43,479]

THIRTY-SEVEN PERCENT!!!  

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

THIRTY-SEVEN PERCENT!!!  

LMAO! Could it be because he's Spanish and from their academy? I mean they have Alaba in the same poll, nothing else explains him being behind.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

They are a bunch of fans who feel entitled to have the best players in the world. No doubt they see Alonso's goal scoring record comparable to Ramos, and want him. Not even rationing the idea of his actual defensive ability 

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3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

They are a bunch of fans who feel entitled to have the best players in the world. No doubt they see Alonso's goal scoring record comparable to Ramos, and want him. Not even rationing the idea of his actual defensive ability 

(Shhh..! They might be reading this forum and will change their minds.) Yes, Alonso is the best left back in Europe! He scores when he wants! If you don't believe me, believe Sarri, he knows what he's talking about.  

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1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

They are a bunch of fans who feel entitled to have the best players in the world. No doubt they see Alonso's goal scoring record comparable to Ramos, and want him. Not even rationing the idea of his actual defensive ability 

Heh If he’s going to replace Marcelo, don’t think he will need to defend at all.

btw, we don’t know how the next manager will play (here or there). We might go back to 3 in the back, which might be a better choice considering we have no fullback in the roster.

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6 minutes ago, Robchels said:

Heh If he’s going to replace Marcelo, don’t think he will need to defend at all.

btw, we don’t know how the next manager will play (here or there). We might go back to 3 in the back, which might be a better choice considering we have no fullback in the roster.

Already assuming Sarri gets the sack?

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7 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Already assuming Sarri gets the sack?

Yes, can’t imagine him being around next season. Player power and they are not playing for him.

thats why I think squad discussions are premature esp around the ban.

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18 minutes ago, Robchels said:

Yes, can’t imagine him being around next season. Player power and they are not playing for him.

thats why I think squad discussions are premature esp around the ban.

I'd personally be worried if the club will allow player power to rid of yet another manager. 

[Jase 43,479]

46 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

I'd personally be worried if the club will allow player power to rid of yet another manager. 

Why does the player power factor have to be "used" every time a manager gets sacked? Why can't a manager gets sacked simply because he was just bad at his job? 

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3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

They are a bunch of fans who feel entitled to have the best players in the world. No doubt they see Alonso's goal scoring record comparable to Ramos, and want him. Not even rationing the idea of his actual defensive ability 

His goal scoring record as a traditional fullback is pure shit

subtract out 2016-18, when he was a wingback

and he has 10 top flight goals in around 17,000 total minutes, all comps in his career, and I am sure some of those minutes were as a wingback too

that is one goal ever 1700 minutes, or to put it another way, one goal every 19 full games

many of those against shit teams

this year he has 1 league goal and one goal in the EL, (versus the horrifically shit Dynamo Kiev) in 3000 plus minutes

almost all his his assists came from beginning of August 2018 to September 1st, 2018, plus one on November 4th, 2018 v Palace

He has ZERO league assists since then, in over 4 and a half months

he has the worst accurate crossing percentage of any full-time player with 50 or more crosses in Europe's Big Five leagues, at around 9.9% (even the inept Moses, for comparison, had 21%)

he is also basically worthless on defence, as even 32yo, 33yo wingers and forwards can ofttimes blow past him due to his insane lack of pace

he offers nothing of value to a back 4 team trying to win trophies and/or at least qualify for the CL

 

 

 

Here is an article that should destroy all credibility of those pushing for Alonso over even Emerson (who isn't even a great player at all) especially this ridiculous notion I see the Alonso fanboys/girls toss out that Emerson is so much worse at defence, which is just ridiculous

AND it even analyses Alonso in on of his two great wingback years and Emerson still trumps him in most categories

How do Chelsea’s Marcos Alonso and Emerson Palmieri compare statistically?'

https://footballbh.net/2019/03/06/marcos-alonso-emerson-palmieri-chelsea-tactical-analysis-statistics/

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Conclusion

As is evident from the statistics and the tactical analysis, Palmieri beats Alonso in almost all metrics. That is not to say that Palmieri is one of the best left-backs, but his services greatly improve Chelsea’s attempt at transitioning and reforming under Sarri. It seems like the fans are right, once again. With the danger of slipping outside of the top four breathing down his neck, Sarri needs to churn out wins. Anything else will guarantee that Chelsea do not play in the Champions League next season.

With both Arsenal and United picking up steam, Chelsea need to be pitch-perfect. For any club, the fans are the ones who stand by it and help it. They determine the resilience and identity of the club. With a crucial time ahead for Chelsea, the fans are standing strong and helping. For a club which has consistently overlooked its fans, its’ time that it listens to its fans’ voice. Now, more than ever, Chelsea and Sarri need to listen through the noise and pick out the signal.

 

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When Sarri gets the sack

the 2 main frauds, Alonso and Jorginho plus his fucking over CHO (especially IF he leaves) can be written on his tombstone of blue

fucking fraud of a manager

another board wonder-blunder

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7 minutes ago, Jason said:

Why does the player power factor have to be "used" every time a manager gets sacked? Why can't a manager gets sacked simply because he was just bad at his job? 

Because it’s recurring with this club...

Not mutually exclusive: he may be a bad manager and the players exert too much power.to your point, while the players may not believe in the manager, it’s also the managers job to sell his ideas to the players.

regarding the post above, football would be a far less interesting game to me if formation and tactics were that static.

while I agree that alonso is poor at defending — sample on Emerson is still small — the only one forcing him to defend is the current manager.

a better manager would either produce a system in which Alonso does not have to defend, change formation, or play a better defender.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

29 minutes ago, Jason said:

Why does the player power factor have to be "used" every time a manager gets sacked? Why can't a manager gets sacked simply because he was just bad at his job? 

Player power + Board incompetence is what has led this club to absolute mediocrity.

We are on course for to miss out on Champions League football for the 3rd time in 4 years, despite being one of the highest spenders in world football. That is utterly embarrassing. It's been 3 years, and the fact Alonso is still our starting LB, Pedro and Willian have still not been upgraded on, and no top striker, are the main factors as to why we do so poor in the league.The fact the club prefers them over elite coaches, perfectly reflects our league position. 

 

 

 

[Unionjack 7,531]

8 minutes ago, Robchels said:

a better manager would either produce a system in which Alonso does not have to defend,

Bit bloody hard seeing that his job is a defender mate!!

 

9 minutes ago, Robchels said:

Not mutually exclusive: he may be a bad manager and the players exert too much power.to your point, while the players may not believe in the manager, it’s also the managers job to sell his ideas to the players.

This has happened to our last 2 managers also.

Were they weak?

It is a reourring thing with this group of players - a lot who were chosen by our previous 2 managers.

The players play shit with no soul,fight or spirit but the manager takes it up the arse1