John Terry

[Rmpr 8,977]

I didnt say anything about buying 2 young players, did I?

I m just referring to the fact that we need good experience and leadership especially when we are in transition. Once the transition is done and we have the players to fill in the void then we can start getting rid of the dead woods ...

You can very well buy two leaders for the spot of JT and Lampards.

Dude, we are talking about 11mi/season in wages alone. Sorry, they are not worth it anymore....

If they accept something like 60-70k, then it is another discussion!

[coolhead23 1,146]

You can very well buy two leaders for the spot of JT and Lampards.

Dude, we are talking about 11mi/season in wages alone. Sorry, they are not worth it anymore....

If they accept something like 60-70k, then it is another discussion!

Fair enough! I respect your opinion but i dont think i m wrong in any way .. possibly sentimental!

[Rmpr 8,977]

Fair enough! I respect your opinion but i dont think i m wrong in any way .. possibly sentimental!

I dont want it to happen, really. But you got to admit it is a fucking big amount of money for 2 players who dont have the legs anymore!

Imagine if we get rid of Torres as well, that is roughly 20 million in wages for 3 players....

This will free space for the much needed top CB, DM, CM and ST. Without spending any more money than we already are.

[coolhead23 1,146]

I dont want it to happen, really. But you got to admit it is a fucking big amount of money for 2 players who dont have the legs anymore!

Imagine if we get rid of Torres as well, that is roughly 20 million in wages for 3 players....

This will free space for the much needed top CB, DM, CM and ST. Without spending any more money than we already are.

I completely agree with u, i would do the same had we not been in the mess which is there already ....

At the start when we were acquiring points for fun, i was all of the fact that Lampard should not be given an extension but after the entire Rafa thing plus the mess which we are in i would be among the first to say that Lampard should be here for another season. Same applies to Terry for now.

[Melanicus 5,208]

That's a captain for you.

[Milan 17,862]

[NishC300 1,865]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/sam-wallace-chelseas-next-big-problem-what-on-earth-to-do-with-outcast-terry-8518544.html

Read this on the Independent

[NishC300 1,865]

I dont want it to happen, really. But you got to admit it is a fucking big amount of money for 2 players who dont have the legs anymore!

Imagine if we get rid of Torres as well, that is roughly 20 million in wages for 3 players....

This will free space for the much needed top CB, DM, CM and ST. Without spending any more money than we already are.

That is if Terry and Lamps r ready to play in a much lower salary (out of loyalty to the club). like giggs and scholes

[Styles 9,790]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/sam-wallace-chelseas-next-big-problem-what-on-earth-to-do-with-outcast-terry-8518544.html

Read this on the Independent

I've been saying this for a long time. If we thought the Lampard situation was a protracted mess then this will be even worse. And the idea of Terry as future manager makes me shudder.

[The Skipper 20,593]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/sam-wallace-chelseas-next-big-problem-what-on-earth-to-do-with-outcast-terry-8518544.html

Read this on the Independent

Stopped reading after the title said JTs an outcast. Can't take that seriously sorry.

[BluesChick 1,260]

Just how bad is his knee? Why is he starting most games as a substitute? He can't honestly be happy with that situation nor can I imagine he is quiet about it. Just doesn't seem in his nature not to want to be on the pitch … I think our back line is currently doing well don't get me wrong, I just don't understand if our captain is healthy why he is sitting on the bench. Other than I just don't understand the FSW's tactical genius…

[Styles 9,790]

Just how bad is his knee? Why is he starting most games as a substitute? He can't honestly be happy with that situation nor can I imagine he is quiet about it. Just doesn't seem in his nature not to want to be on the pitch … I think our back line is currently doing well don't get me wrong, I just don't understand if our captain is healthy why he is sitting on the bench. Other than I just don't understand the FSW's tactical genius…

Terry isn't fully fit and hasn't been fully fit for years. With his accumulation of injuries over the years I doubt whether he will truly be fully fit ever again.

He can't run any more, his lateral movement is non-existent and he takes about 15 seconds to turn his body around. When he plays the team has to drop so deep the defenders are nearly within arms reach of Cech, which means the team can't push on or press high up the field and massive gaps start appearing between defence, midfield and attack. As it stands he can only play one game per week and he is physically unable to train the days after a game according to Benitez.

[BluesChick 1,260]

Terry isn't fully fit and hasn't been fully fit for years. With his accumulation of injuries over the years I doubt whether he will truly be fully fit ever again.

He can't run any more, his lateral movement is non-existent and he takes about 15 seconds to turn his body around. When he plays the team has to drop so deep the defenders are nearly within arms reach of Cech, which means the team can't push on or press high up the field and massive gaps start appearing between defence, midfield and attack. As it stands he can only play one game per week and he is physically unable to train the days after a game according to Benitez.

Thanks for explaining. I knew the abuse his body has taken was catching up with him but I hadn't heard the actual report on his recovery. I had also noticed his lack of mobility. None of it is a surprise given how he returned time after time faster than he should have. I knew it was bad when they kept pushing back his return.

I don't like that JT hasn't said anything, it is not like him. Just makes you wonder what else they are covering up or hiding.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Thanks for explaining. I knew the abuse his body has taken was catching up with him but I hadn't heard the actual report on his recovery. I had also noticed his lack of mobility. None of it is a surprise given how he returned time after time faster than he should have. I knew it was bad when they kept pushing back his return.

I don't like that JT hasn't said anything, it is not like him. Just makes you wonder what else they are covering up or hiding.

There has been confirmed news that John had an argument with Rafa about this at least two times with our senior players siding with the captain against the manager. It's not healthy for the dressing room, not healthy at all.

[English Freak 456]

Terry isn't fully fit and hasn't been fully fit for years. With his accumulation of injuries over the years I doubt whether he will truly be fully fit ever again.

He can't run any more, his lateral movement is non-existent and he takes about 15 seconds to turn his body around. When he plays the team has to drop so deep the defenders are nearly within arms reach of Cech, which means the team can't push on or press high up the field and massive gaps start appearing between defence, midfield and attack. As it stands he can only play one game per week and he is physically unable to train the days after a game according to Benitez.

John Terry's injury situation could be similar to Ledley King who could only play once a week. Also, from what I recall, Redknapp mentioned multiple times that King couldn't train during the week, all he did was basic drills with his CB partner for the next match he'd be involved in...

It'll be a sad day when JT is no longer part of Chelsea's first team.

[manpe 10,861]

Wouldnt it be better for the club if Lampard and JT leave us next season?

I mean, how much do they have left? As much as I love them (and I absolutely do), they are not worth 300k/week.

300K? In what currency?

EDIT: Oh, you probably meant total, not each. My bad.

[Styles 9,790]

300K? In what currency?

EDIT: Oh, you probably meant total, not each. My bad.

That's nearly 16m between a season on two players. That could cover the salaries of about 5 good players.

[Spike 12,049]

I don't think he can hack at the highest level for much longer. His fitness always seems to be in question.

I would hold it against him to retire soon.