1chelsea 864 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 This signing can lead to our back to back title with this addition our attack got it improvement 2 more signing then we are favorite title contender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephoenix 1,131 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 You've twisted my point. My point is you guys are underestimating a player because he's a Barcelona or Madrid reject. Robben a reject starts for bayern, so stop acting like I'm downgrading us. If we want to be above them instantly and be as dominant as them for years, we need our messi or ronaldo. FactAnything else will be one year spells of athletico or Dortmund or Juventus.But how many available quality players are out there?? Reus, Griezmann, and ????????We sometimes can't have the eiffel tower in our homesHaha I should have added a few smileys to my post I knew what you meant and apologies I didn't mean to twist your post . Also my point is not getting already proven talents, but getting players who show a lot of promise and turn them into the next Messi, Drogba, Ronaldo et al.Drogba transfer was heavily questioned and critcized but see what he became. I wan't people like that to enter the club. That's why I am always skeptical about players who have won too many medals/trophies under a team. I feel they won't be motivated enough.We need players like Hazard who are good but at the same time would be hungry to get titles under their belt <I know it is hard to find still that is the kind of players we should really be chasing > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS 382 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 We need first team quality from now on. No more bench warmers.I guess Sanchez must be a flop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I guess Sanchez must be a flopWhat on earth has that got do with the situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,701 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I like the signing. I think most of all it will create some synergy and understanding within the frontline since he can link up with Hazard and Oscar with the close touch passing and build up play. Not to mention he doesn't mind going wide and providing some width, which is good seeing as Ivanovic cannot cross the ball for shit. He is shifty, and it is always nice to have another player with the close dribbling control on the team just to be able to make you feel at ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Haha I should have added a few smileys to my post I knew what you meant and apologies I didn't mean to twist your post . Also my point is not getting already proven talents, but getting players who show a lot of promise and turn them into the next Messi, Drogba, Ronaldo et al.Drogba transfer was heavily questioned and critcized but see what he became. I wan't people like that to enter the club. That's why I am always skeptical about players who have won too many medals/trophies under a team. I feel they won't be motivated enough.We need players like Hazard who are good but at the same time would be hungry to get titles under their belt <I know it is hard to find still that is the kind of players we should really be chasing >Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. Getting those players mean we will probably be challenging for the PL title again, but where does that leave us for CL title?Yeah, in transition. We already have a good balance of age in our squad. Courtois, Hazard and Oscar are almost at the age where they would start peaking. Costa, Azpilicueta, Matic, Willian are at a very good age. We have experience too, especially of winning the CL with Cahill, Ivanovic, Terry, Fabregas and now Pedro. As for the young guns, Zouma and Baba are one of the most highly rated defenders out there. Someone good and young at CB (Stones?) and we're all good for the defence in the future too.You need players with experience who have won the Big Ears. All the players look towards them and are very comfortable when there are a few winners who have went all the way to win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 What on earth has that got do with the situation?Sanchez was also a bench warmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 PEDRO LATESTYou might not have believed this 48 hours ago but Pedro could complete his move from Barcelona to Chelsea today, after Manchester United pulled out of a potential deal. Chelsea have agreed to pay an initial fee of £19.7m plus another £1.4m in add-ons.Pedro is in London and should complete the move after passing a medical. Well bring you more when we have it.[skySports] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Haha I should have added a few smileys to my post I knew what you meant and apologies I didn't mean to twist your post . Also my point is not getting already proven talents, but getting players who show a lot of promise and turn them into the next Messi, Drogba, Ronaldo et al.Drogba transfer was heavily questioned and critcized but see what he became. I wan't people like that to enter the club. That's why I am always skeptical about players who have won too many medals/trophies under a team. I feel they won't be motivated enough.We need players like Hazard who are good but at the same time would be hungry to get titles under their belt <I know it is hard to find still that is the kind of players we should really be chasing >You've got a point. Maybe taking a punt on someone's like Lacazette and hoping he turns out to be a world beater but still has a good resale value won't be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I've always liked Pedro. An awesome first touch and good close ball control. The two things Schurrle didn't have. Pedro is a better Schurrle and is good at exactly the things Schurrle struggled with along with all the strengths that Schurrle had.He's also very good with his left foot like Remy/hazard. And has a lot of movement when the team is attacking. Instead of this slow passing we see, fabregas will be able to put pedro through on goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Boy = PedroBlue = Man UPink = Chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Fabregas -> Pedro -> Costa -> Goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Fabregas > Pedro > Costa > Goal.Fabregas is greater than Pedro who is greater than Costa who is greater than Goal?What kind of nonsense arithmetic is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Fabregas is greater than Pedro who is greater than Costa who is greater than Goal?What kind of nonsense arithmetic is this?Edited. Hope you're satisfied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Sounds like today is the day. You little dancer. :blue scalf: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Just reading through this thread and it's been a bit of a head scratcher.You know your reading a truly wonderful forum when people lose it over the signing of the virtually unknown Baba Rahman -- who? -- and immediately place him in their fantasy Chelsea XI, but at the same time are disappointed at the signing of Barcelona "reject" Pedro, at peak playing age, who comes with many winners medals which include multiple Champions League and La Liga titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Put Busquets in our team and he will be exposed imo. I am not denying is quality but in no way would I say he is better than Matic. You put Matic in Barca and we rarely will talk about a flaw in his game. As for tackling, no DM beats Matic in that department.Most tackles won in the 2014/15 Champions League: Vidal (45) Matić (37) Casemiro (36) Toulalan (30) Busquets (27).Remember, we got knocked out the knockout stage as well, whereas Barca reached the final. Had we reached the final, Matic would have topped that table for sure. Not even a debate who is better. It is easier for Busquets to standout in a team like Barca.A DM's role is not about tackling though. It's not about winning the most tackles either. That just shows the style of a player. Matic does have the physical presence advantage over Busquets, definitely.Busquets is a tactical defender for the most part. Intelligent positioning (he truly stands out in this, his performance in the CL final was simply immaculate), intercepting, blocking passing lanes, excellent timing when it comes to applying pressure, looking to oust any kind of potential attack very early. His tackling is very good as well. When he does decide to tackle or slide tackle, he rarely gets it wrong. Matic's aggressive nature also leads to him leaving gaps and getting dribbled past far too easily at times.Then there's Busquets' ability on the ball and it certainly does matter. 'DMs just have to destroy' is an outdated view.Matic has had games where he looked like an absolute juggernaut in midfield (he's also enjoyed some real stinkers), but looking at his time overall at Chelsea, he's been fantastic but not defining. Busquets has been bossing since 2010, shining in CL and World Cup finals, and all kinds of big games. He's an exceptional talent, I rate him very, very highly. On and off the ball.The whole playing for Barca is easier argument doesn't work for me. Barca are as good as they are because they have incredible players. Busquets is one of them. When you're not good enough or not as good as the rest, it shows (badly), and you either don't play or end up leaving. Edit: Then there's the fact Barca struggle when he's not playing when facing quality opposition. Controlling the midfield zone becomes a lot harder for them without Busquets.Matic wouldn't get into the Barca team btw. He's not that strong on a tactical level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Cesc, talk to him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 He's also very good with his left foot like Remy/hazard. And has a lot of movement when the team is attacking. Instead of this slow passing we see, fabregas will be able to put pedro through on goal.Better than Remy/Hazard, much better. He's completely ambidextrous. One of his greatest qualities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 The perfect team mate and the perfect professional - Henry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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