AK-3001 286 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I couldn't find the source where I read about Destro scoring 0.95 goals per game. And on Whoscored, it doesn't look like it was 0.95.15(5) appearances, scored 13 and assisted 1 in the league. That's pretty good. Apologies for the 0.95 goals per game stat. If I do find the source, I'll post it first thing. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 20M for a loan is insane. We have Costa as our #1 striker, we don't need another #1 striker. We need someone who can be our #2 striker. We only play with one striker so the law of diminishing returns means that the value gained by getting another big striker will be minimal. To wit, let's say Chelsea play 50-60 games this season (and that's including early Cup ties against low opposition or CL group games of low importance). Diego Costa started 52 games for Athletico last year.Let's say we'd like him to start 40-45 games to keep him more fresh. That means we need another striker to be able to start 5-20 more games as well as be an impact sub. That means, that going after someone like Falcao for a one year period for this is a ludicrous waste of resources. We need another striker, Drogba is best suited as a #3 striker, but that doesn't mean Chelsea have to go after a big name striker and certainly not for a loan . We don't have to scrimp and save , but we can actually buy a good striker for less than we'd pay to loan Falcao. For example, Bony was 12M pounds last year, There are many many strikers who are fully capable of playing the #2 role well and could be long-term additions to the team. (BTW, Jovetic who is a very exciting young player was 22M pounds last year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey 173 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 This part:That's right, all of it.First of all, we wouldn't be paying 20m for the best pure striker in the world. No, we'd be paying for a loan and wouldn't own him. And he's not the best pure striker in the world. Top 5 definitely, top 3 most likely. But hasn't shown the same greatness after his injury (not saying he lost some of it but he could have but that's another discussion).Second, if you don't care about the clubs money and how they invest it on new players, because it doesn't affect you, you're not a fan. Of course it affects you, because you are a fan and you want the club to get the best players. If they'd just toss the money around, they'd have less money to spend and would maybe get that one crazy player but wouldn't be able to get a good overall balanced squad like we have now. We've had a great transfer window this summer and the club has done some excellent business and they've done so because they've invested wisely. 32m for Costa, selling Mata and Luiz for 40m and 50m, great! Getting rid of Torres and saving money that way: great! Getting rid of the high wages of Lampard and Cole, is great business even though I'll miss them (especially Lamps)! And Fabregas was great business as well. A 20million loan is not. It's terrible business. Even for a player as great as Falcao. And how would that work with Costa? We're a one striker team, you know?Chelsea has the money, but they don't have infinite money. You do know that, right? And FFP is something to keep in mind, altough I'm not allowed by you to mention it so I won't go into it.And last but not least, we wouldn't have the best strike force in the world. We'd have two great strikers, but would they play together? If you have two strikers of that caliber they should, but we'll probably still play with two (or in one striker team) three AM's. We'd have a great LW in Hazard but our 10 position or RW can still use some improvement. Nowhere near the strike force of Real Madrid or Bayern...I'm sorry I had to type it out for you, I thought you'd get it with just my one-liner but I'll try to be more clear next time.1. I know its a loan, but if im not mistaken thats for 2 seasons. TWO seasons with a striking force of Costa and Falcao. That is a force to be reckoned with. 2. How would it work with costa? Do you think Costa can play every single game? And Didier isnt what he used to be and he wont be a striker to count with. We didnt bring him back for that reason.3. Yes exacly, Chelsea has the money. FFP isnt an issue. I laugh when people here discuss it, im pretty sure Chelsea FC got enough people who know EXACLY how FFP works and its not like this loan would kill us. Not at all. Its simply not an ISSUE thats why I said dont mention it.4. Im not a fan because I said its not my money? Yeah, great arguement-technique there buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 The £20 million is wages as well, so it's the equivalent of him costing £60 million on a 5 year contract paying Torres-esque wages.For a player who will be 29 before the season ends, would be second-choice and is coming off what is often a career-changing injury (usually it takes another 12 months to get back to where the sportsman was before the injury) it's an insane amount of money.1. I know its a loan, but if im not mistaken thats for 2 seasons. TWO seasons with a striking force of Costa and Falcao. That is a force to be reckoned with. It's one year. £12 million for the player, plus wages according to reports.3. Yes exacly, Chelsea has the money. FFP isnt an issue. I laugh when people here discuss it, im pretty sure Chelsea FC got enough people who know EXACLY how FFP works and its not like this loan would kill us. Not at all. Its simply not an ISSUE thats why I said dont mention it.FFP isn't really an issue because we're very savvy in the market. It's that savviness that makes it unlikely we'll do a deal like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 1. I know its a loan, but if im not mistaken thats for 2 seasons. TWO seasons with a striking force of Costa and Falcao. That is a force to be reckoned with. 2. How would it work with costa? Do you think Costa can play every single game? And Didier isnt what he used to be and he wont be a striker to count with. We didnt bring him back for that reason.3. Yes exacly, Chelsea has the money. FFP isnt an issue. I laugh when people here discuss it, im pretty sure Chelsea FC got enough people who know EXACLY how FFP works and its not like this loan would kill us. Not at all. Its simply not an ISSUE thats why I said dont mention it.4. Im not a fan because I said its not my money? Yeah, great arguement-technique there buddy. It's 1 year for 20m pal, that's absolute madness. You can't justify it at all IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 This is so silly. Can anyone seriously imagine either Falcao or Costa as a squad player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Real Madrid and Monaco have closed a €20m loan agreement for Radamel Falcao on Thursday evening in Monte Carlo. (via @tancredipalmeri) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 433 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I think the hole 20m loan thing is based on then buying him for another for 20m at the end on the loan deal.Not just 20m for a year then Monaco getting him back. I maybe wrong tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Real Madrid and Monaco have closed a €20m loan agreement for Radamel Falcao on Thursday evening in Monte Carlo. (via @tancredipalmeri)What do you like more?Ronaldo-Falcao-BaleOrNeymar Messi Suarez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 What will happen to Benzema ? No way he'll settle to be a back-up and Falcao is the kind of player who play every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,906 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Benzema must be thrilled. Just signed a long new contract and will be sat on the bench now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 433 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 What do you like more?Ronaldo-Falcao-BaleOrNeymar Messi SuarezBoth are fucking ridiculous, but Madrid purely on the power and speed, With good tactics and defending i think you can stop barca's 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Both are fucking ridiculous, but Madrid purely on the power and speed, With good tactics and defending i think you can stop barca's 3.I'd say Barca's is more difficult to stop as with Messi and Suarez you're more likely to get a moment of individual brilliance than with Madrid's trio. Bale can be stopped pretty easily if you deny him spaces and we'll see how well Falcao does after his ACL injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenIsLegend 475 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Everyone thinks that this Real Madrid team is going to be amazing but I've got my doubts.Too many stars results in a difficult dressing room.And they are playing Modric and Kroos as their two CM's with no CDM, that's just asking for trouble if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Everyone thinks that this Real Madrid team is going to be amazing but I've got my doubts.Too many stars results in a difficult dressing room.And they are playing Modric and Kroos as their two CM's with no CDM, that's just asking for trouble if you ask me.Illaramendi + Khedira are CDMs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 And they are playing Modric and Kroos as their two CM's with no CDM, that's just asking for trouble if you ask me.James won't play tough games, i'm pretty sure of that. Khedira or Illara will come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenIsLegend 475 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Illaramendi + Khedira are CDMs....They haven't been playing with them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 James won't play tough games, i'm pretty sure of that. Khedira or Illara will come in. I expect that to happen but it's a complete joke. Putting a player you've just bought for £70m on the bench for the big games is something only Real Madrid would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Falcao is 28 and expensive as fuck. Destro is 24 and relatively cheap.I hate to state the obvious but, Falcao is FALCAO... and Destro is, well, Destro. Still don't understand why people seem startled by the loan fee. I mean this is a. Radamel Falcao (who makes about 250 grand/week) and b. A player of probably the wealthiest team in the world in terms of money they can invest in the club. (just have a look at their training facility ffs http://i.imgur.com/qoy0YP7.jpg ...Its a million times prettier than anything in the UK) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I hate to state the obvious but, Falcao is FALCAO... and Destro is, well, Destro. Still don't understand why people seem startled by the loan fee. I mean this is a. Radamel Falcao (who makes about 250 grand/week) and b. A player of probably the wealthiest team in the world in terms of money they can invest in the club. (just have a look at their training facility ffs http://i.imgur.com/qoy0YP7.jpg ...Its a million times prettier than anything in the UK) other view, it's simply amazing "La turbie" training ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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