TheOneChan95 225 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Honestly mate i just hope that the Falcao signing lights enough fire under Costa's ass (and hopefully Remy's) that Diego goes apeshit goalpig mode scoring 40 next year.Then next yr is the academy guys to take over.I'd rather they light each other's asses and score 80(yes I'm greedy). Would have the added bonus of making United look like twats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think if we have to pay 5/7 million to Monaco to get the loan of Falcao Perhaps we should make a counteroffer including several of our players that are in our Academy or those that are on loan in other teams in Europe.Monaco plays Champions League next season and I think French league is a league with an acceptable level where our young players could evolve in their performance.For example, if Bertrand Traore does not get a work permit for next season, maybe Monaco could accept having a player who has made 14 goals last season and perhaps is one of the young players with better future. And it would be perfect for Bertrand Traore. Another step in his professional career.I do not know, but maybe this could be a way to avoid paying money to Monaco in exchange for signing Falcao.Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 If this pushes Remy out the team completely then a really dumb decision has been made. What is it with Chelsea and 'has been' strikers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Don't worry guys, if we sell Bamford it should cover the cost of having Falcao for just the one year instead of having Bamford for possibly 10+ years. Loving the new Chelsea business acumen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 i am so gonna enjoy rubbing it in people's faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 i am so gonna enjoy rubbing it in people's faces.Me too. And if it doesn't work out, it's one season with no obligation of a purchase. Makes me laugh people want Bamford or Solanke as a third choice striker behind the injury prone Remy and Costa. Neither are ready and need a PL loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 What in the christ has happened here? Suddenly people who are usually so level headed (Mak, Choulo) are losing their freaking minds?!?!Look everyone, if Remy leaves then yes that would be disappointing as he's a more trusted player. But if he leaves then it will have been his choice before this. If he wants to leave for first team football then I guess we have to accept that, but he would have wanted to leave in that case whether or not Falcao signed as he's definitely behind Costa in the pecking order. So this transfer will have nothing to do with Falcao, whether Remy leaves or not.Falcao is still a good player. If you watched his performances last season then you'd see that he was severely handicapped by LVG's moronic formations and tactics. Not saying hes anywhere near as good as he was at Atletico and Porto, but he doesn't have to be. As long as he's alright then he'll be a decent 3rd choice.Also, we have not signed him, it's a loan deal. We don't have any details about it yet but the suggestions that I have seen are that it is £4M with an option to buy at the end of the season for £35M (option to, we don't have to and 99% chance we won't) with wages that are around £175k p/w. For those kind of figures I really don't see what the fuss is about. If people wanted us to sign another striker then they would have cost much much more than £4M and would likely want high wages considering they'd be sitting on the bench as 3rd choice, if they even wanted to come at all!!!As for Bamford. Now, I have been one of the biggest advocates of this guy. I love the way he plays and IMO he's ready for the Chelsea team. BUT if either Jose doesn't think he's ready or thinks he'd benefit from a PL loan then so be it. Jose has obviously decided this well before deciding to sign Falcao, so this signing is not pushing Bamford out of the team as he was already out anyway. Whether Jose is right or not to do that is a debate for another time, but i'm happy to trust his judgement. So if Bamford has a good season at a PL club he'll be ripe to either be sold or brought into our team if there is a space. And the 1 year loan deal of Falcao means that there will almost definitely be a space for next season in our 3 striker system. Everything about this deal makes sense. Please think about it some people and actually read what I just wrote. It seems as if people are either having a moan for the sake of it or laying into him just because he's a big name player and just because of that it's giving people weird flashbacks of Torres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 i am so gonna enjoy rubbing it in people's faces.How some people can be so arrogantly confident in the abilities of a massive United flop is beyond me. Say what you want, but people like myself are arguing the simple facts of the situation: Remy = One of the best 2nd choice strikers in the league, if not the best.Bamford = Our best youth prospect.Falcao = Couldn't hit a barn door and threatens the future of both strikers. Your arguments are based on hope, sunshine and rainbows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 So is he taking a 50% wage cut? If yes than it's worth the risk. I'd say no automatic starters from Costa, Remy or Falcao. Let them all fight for a starting place. Keep them on their toes and hungry to score goals.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 How some people can be so arrogantly confident in the abilities of a massive United flop is beyond me. Say what you want, but people like myself are arguing the simple facts of the situation: Remy = One of the best 2nd choice strikers in the league, if not the best.Bamford = Our best youth prospect.Falcao = Couldn't hit a barn door and threatens the future of both strikers. Your arguments are based on hope, sunshine and rainbows.You say that at the same time as severely over-hyping a player with absolutely no Premier League experience in Bamford. In my opinion, the same people writing off Falcao now are probably the same who wrote off two of the last big name forwards to come over from French football in Drogba and Giroud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I never even wanted us to sign him when he was the in form guy, so him being him currently makes it hard for me to be won over by the signing of Falcao. He wasn't needed at all I think, an unnecessary, excessive signing. It'll be very sad if this signing pushes out Remy. If that happens then the deal is definitely negative. Currently, Remy is so much better than Falcao, not even debatable. If we can manage to keep all three guys here happy (very unlikely), then it should be okay as long as Falcao doesn't kick up a fuss when he isn't playing, but I just can't see that happening. People are harbouring hope that Falcao will be the Falcao of some 2/3 years ago for us, and trying to use that as the main argument to say why he'll succeed here but I don't think that'll happen at all. I'm not expecting big things from Radamel tbh, and the only thing that is keeping me on the fence with the deal is the fact that it's a loan. What I don't want to see from Jose however is him unjustifiably playing or starting Falcao over either Remy or Costa. I just hope he doesn't do Torres MKII. In my opinion, the same people writing off Falcao now are probably the same who wrote off two of the last big name forwards to come over from French football in Drogba and Giroud. What relation do the Drogba and Giroud signings have to Falcao? People aren't saying we shouldn't sign Falcao because he's coming from France? It's not even comparable in that sense at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You say that at the same time as severely over-hyping a player with absolutely no Premier League experience in Bamford. Coming from a person who'd rather rely on a proven PL flop?I'm glad Kane wasn't a Chelsea youth player, he would've been pissed away a long time ago. Makes me laugh people want Bamford or Solanke as a third choice striker behind the injury prone Remy and Costa. Neither are ready and need a PL loan.Bamford has scored wherever he's gone. Do you want 3 world-class options for one position? That's what make me laugh. In my opinion, the same people writing off Falcao now are probably the same who wrote off two of the last big name forwards to come over from French football in Drogba and Giroud.Complete baseless conjecture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah.STFU you bunch of whiners . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 How some people can be so arrogantly confident in the abilities of a massive United flop is beyond me. Say what you want, but people like myself are arguing the simple facts of the situation: Remy = One of the best 2nd choice strikers in the league, if not the best.Bamford = Our best youth prospect.Falcao = Couldn't hit a barn door and threatens the future of both strikers. Your arguments are based on hope, sunshine and rainbows.so i guess a season defines a player now. well in that case if we should not buy bale for free!!!and every person who is a united FLOP for a whole season (OMG, that too right after an injury) should be shunned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Me too. And if it doesn't work out, it's one season with no obligation of a purchase. Makes me laugh people want Bamford or Solanke as a third choice striker behind the injury prone Remy and Costa. Neither are ready and need a PL loan.Yeah I agree, but at one point in time we need to take some risk with the younger players.This season is where we have to take at least one. Weather is RLC, Ake or whoever we need to make good on our promises.If this season we finish with the same shenanigans of no youth and more talk about next season then nothing will ever happen with Mourinho and the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I'm glad we sign this guyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTkrigV0HIkFALMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 So what are the actual figures for this loan?This is all I could find:However, L'Equipe claims that Chelsea have agreed terms on a deal that will see the Blues pay just over £7 million to loan Falcao for the season with a buyout clause of £35 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 Yeah I agree, but at one point in time we need to take some risk with the younger players.This season is where we have to take at least one. Weather is RLC, Ake or whoever we need to make good on our promises.If this season we finish with the same shenanigans of no youth and more talk about next season then nothing will ever happen with Mourinho and the club.Totally agreed. We need to phase them through slowly, not chuck them in at the deep end. Falcao comes in for a year whilst Bamford is loaned to a lower PL side like Norwich or Watford, comes back with bags of experience. Can't see how this hurts anyone.Wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah.STFU you bunch of whiners . Absolutely spot on. Typical of Chelsea fans to write players off before they've even kicked a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I'm holding onto the fact he can't be any worse than Torres.....he can't be, he can't be!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 How some people can be so arrogantly confident in the abilities of a massive United flop is beyond me. Say what you want, but people like myself are arguing the simple facts of the situation: Remy = One of the best 2nd choice strikers in the league, if not the best.Bamford = Our best youth prospect.Falcao = Couldn't hit a barn door and threatens the future of both strikers. Your arguments are based on hope, sunshine and rainbows.No your assessment is based on one bad season that you've decided will define the rest of his career. Unless your a psychic your estimation is worth as much as those dreamers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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