Rumoured Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

8 minutes ago, coolhead23 said:

I m sure that Ox is not the only option available out there ... what everyone is pissed (I believe) is that we didnt act much earlier in the window, surely Ox was not the first choice, would be 3rd/4th maybe 5th... Club should have identified the targets and have plan A,B,C,D ready ... I know plan A was Sandro and it didnt go as plan (i think we didnt try hard, just an opinion) but then what about plan B, C?

It is how we acted in the window is what is disappointing when clearly we knew that we need to strengthen the team!!! 

I agree but it boils down to the Ox's personal choice nothing that the board can do about that. I'm slightly on the fence about this he's a good but not great player so I can't say I'm devastated about him not joining us. What I'm fucked off about is the Mickey Mouser's are going to start a chant about him turning us down like our Willian one. He's been compared to James Milner and I think that's a good comparison someone who's adequate in a lot of positions but not good enough to hold down a fixed spot.

[Azpinator 2,325]

6 minutes ago, Peace. said:

We have been very, very, very lucky to suffer our decline while the whole English football was declining as well. It has allowed us to keep the head out of the water and to win two PL, otherwise we would be right now at the same level as Liverpool. Seeing our inability — or rather, our non-desire — to manage the squad and to renew it properly, in a few seasons we will be in a dangerously dire situation. I mean, ten years ago we had world-class (outfield) players in every position in the field : Terry, Lampard, Cole, Drogba, etc... Now, we have only one and it's Hazard.

Abramovich needs to understand that doing these cheap business will cost us greatly in the mid to long term. Not only it is crucially weakening our squad, but it does also hurt our ability to attract big names and/or futur stars. Young kids want to play with Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, Robben, Pogba, etc...  The only one of our players that has this power of attraction is Hazard — and he is not eternal. That is also why, back in the days, we were able to sign good players for the bench : because they had great players before them and thus could deal with it. Now, we cannot even convince the likes of Chalobah to stay on the bench while years ago players queued for that. And if you throw in the mix that every two years we are in a shambles, then you have a club that is not very attractive at all. I fear the future is not very bright for this club...

We don't have a good enough board anymore, that's it. Clearly we're not relying on cheap business hence the Morata transfer.

I'm sorry but you sound like a grumpy fortune teller. I think building a foundation and a team identity is far more important than just signing big names. What Conte has been doing can take us to the next level with the right circumstances which aren't necessarily all about signing spoiled superstars.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

24 minutes ago, Peace. said:

We have been very, very, very lucky to suffer our decline while the whole English football was declining as well. It has allowed us to keep the head out of the water and to win two PL, otherwise we would be right now at the same level as Liverpool. Seeing our inability — or rather, our non-desire — to manage the squad and to renew it properly, in a few seasons we will be in a dangerously dire situation. I mean, ten years ago we had world-class (outfield) players in every position in the field : Terry, Lampard, Cole, Drogba, etc... Now, we have only one and it's Hazard.

Abramovich needs to understand that doing these cheap business will cost us greatly in the mid to long term. Not only it is crucially weakening our squad, but it does also hurt our ability to attract big names and/or futur stars. Young kids want to play with Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, Robben, Pogba, etc...  The only one of our players that has this power of attraction is Hazard — and he is not eternal. That is also why, back in the days, we were able to sign good players for the bench : because they had great players before them and thus could deal with it. Now, we cannot even convince the likes of Chalobah to stay on the bench while years ago players queued for that. And if you throw in the mix that every two years we are in a shambles, then you have a club that is not very attractive at all. I fear the future is not very bright for this club...

Massive overreaction. 

[coolhead23 1,147]

1 minute ago, Iggy Doonican said:

I agree but it boils down to the Ox's personal choice nothing that the board can do about that. I'm slightly on the fence about this he's a good but not great player so I can't say I'm devastated about him not joining us. What I'm fucked off about is the Mickey Mouser's are going to start a chant about him turning us down like our Willian one. He's been compared to James Milner and I think that's a good comparison someone who's adequate in a lot of positions but not good enough to hold down a fixed spot.

Honestly right now we are in a state where we're crying out loud for a signing even it means the most average player in the league ... I dont think Ox is a world class level player he is just a decent player who is versatile, I wouldnt have given it a thought had this been at the start or middle of the window but with a day more to go I dont give a damn about Ox's personal choice ... Just needed the signing done specially when the clubs agreed, it is more disappointing that the champions get turned down by an average player. Grrrrrrrrrr!!!  

Anyways, was expecting we would make a mess in the window the way we performed in the Transfer window. 

BTW the comparison with Miller is apt.  

[Blusan Alamb 295]

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[Belgiannutt 3,201]

19 minutes ago, Rekin said:

I think something is happening behind the scenes. Some clubs (PSG, Manchester clubs) have made the decision to recruit the most well-known names no matter the cost. Others, such as us, Spurs and Arsenal have decided to try and maintain a self-sustainable revenue model. 
I am not saying that I find it the best choice in the current environment, but I find it hard otherwise to explain how we could lose three wing-backs to City, one to Inter, one to Spurs and another to Liverpool. 

I do think that the players we have recruited will be excellent, and if we had retained Ake, Chalobah and Costa then I would think that this was a great transfer window. However, is has been 100% clear for a while that we needed reinforcements, and the market has been open for several months now. The money is there, no doubt about it whatsoever, so what is keeping us from being more pro-active? This is crazy, I simply refuse to believe that our board is so incompetent. It absolutely must be directions coming from Roman himself, I cannot fathom any other reason for failing so spectacularly. 

There is still one day left. I know we can get Drinkwater, Barkley and Llorente. I think those would be good signings, but if we end up recruiting not a single WB on either side then heads should roll. It was priority number one, and there is exactly one day left to fix this. Talk about cutting it close.

What if we simply don't have as much money as people think we do ? Everyone keeps saying we've got plenty of money but i don't think we do.

Last season we spent 132.8 million euros on players and brought in 108.4 million euros on player sales.

That's a loss of 24.4 million euros. Which already includes Oscar's 60 million we made. 

Now looking at this transfer window. 

We've spent 140 million euros and brought in 122.8 million euros. That's a loss of 17.2 million euros. Now we still have Costa left to sell but we also are looking at strenghtening the squad with Drinkwater, Llorente.

say we sell Costa for £50 million all of it would have to be used to buy those 2 players. I don't think we can sustain 100 of millions in losses.

It wouldn't make any sense that we'd be sticking as close to breakeven (financially) ,as we have these past few years ,if we had hundreds of millions lying around.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

1 minute ago, Belgiannutt said:

What if we simply don't have as much money as people think we do ? Everyone keeps saying we've got plenty of money but i don't think we do.

Last season we spent 132.8 million euros on players and brought in 108.4 million euros on player sales.

That's a loss of 24.4 million euros. Which already includes Oscar's 60 million we made. 

Now looking at this transfer window. 

We've spent 140 million euros and brought in 122.8 million euros. That's a loss of 17.2 million euros. Now we still have Costa left to sell but we also are looking at strenghtening the squad with Drinkwater, Llorente.

say we sell Costa for £50 million all of it would have to be used to buy those 2 players. I don't think we can sustain 100 of millions in losses.

It wouldn't make any sense that we'd be sticking as close to breakeven (financially) ,as we have these past few years ,if we had hundreds of millions lying around.

Stadium isn't going to pay for itself.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

1 minute ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

Stadium isn't going to pay for itself.

Wasn't Abramovich paying for that ? 

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

2 hours ago, Blusan Alamb said:

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was a Liverpool fan when he was a kid. Liverpool see him as long-term replacement for James Milner.

 

arsenal + chelsea+ liverpool fan?

impressive!

[Johnnyeye 7,501]

7 hours ago, BluesMadLad said:

Oi not all of us english are twats..... just most of us 

no offense intended to anyone, was just refering to Ox

[Dimitr 488]

1 hour ago, Peace. said:

We have been very, very, very lucky to suffer our decline while the whole English football was declining as well. It has allowed us to keep the head out of the water and to win two PL, otherwise we would be right now at the same level as Liverpool. Seeing our inability — or rather, our non-desire — to manage the squad and to renew it properly, in a few seasons we will be in a dangerously dire situation. I mean, ten years ago we had world-class (outfield) players in every position in the field : Terry, Lampard, Cole, Drogba, etc... Now, we have only one and it's Hazard.

Abramovich needs to understand that doing these cheap business will cost us greatly in the mid to long term. Not only it is crucially weakening our squad, but it does also hurt our ability to attract big names and/or futur stars. Young kids want to play with Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, Robben, Pogba, etc...  The only one of our players that has this power of attraction is Hazard — and he is not eternal. That is also why, back in the days, we were able to sign good players for the bench : because they had great players before them and thus could deal with it. Now, we cannot even convince the likes of Chalobah to stay on the bench while years ago players queued for that. And if you throw in the mix that every two years we are in a shambles, then you have a club that is not very attractive at all. I fear the future is not very bright for this club...

I always said this 

and nobody agree with that. 

We are not a famous club anymore. 

 

[Dimitr 488]

Roman abramovich don't spend anymore big . This is the reason. No the fucking board . 

 

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

36 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

Wasn't Abramovich paying for that ? 

I'm sure he's paying for some of it, but it's going to be about 500M

[BlueLyon 9,359]

2 hours ago, Iggy Doonican said:

There's been rumours he wanted to leave but he refused to sign a new contract only a few days ago what exactly are Chelsea supposed to have done ?. If we approached him outside of the transfer window  we would get done for tapping up so your point about enquiring about his situation is invalid. Bottom line he was offered a deal by us he turned it down it happens.

Well the window is open for two months now. If he was high on our list, we should bid for him month ago. If arsenal rejected us, move to next target. If Ox rejected us, move to next target. No need to tapping him. We would see exactly what is going on.

But the idea to try landing a player who clearly prefers to play CM (meaning high chance of refusing us) two days before deadline without any quality backup plan, thats idiotic.  

Im not even mad at Ox. He refused us, it happens. He wants to play midfield. But I blame our board for being naive and simply said fucked up our situation very nice. Tomorrow is last day and we still have one proper wingback on each side while going into 4 competitons. 

In the end Ox has nothing to do with this, the board are just incompetent to get shit done. 

Unless we sign Aurier or someone similar tomorrow, it will be panic buys over again. Decent quality, overpaid, but come next season and long term, not good enough players. And with few exceptions, thats going on more or less every year for a while now.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

7 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Well the window is open for two months now. If he was high on our list, we should bid for him month ago. If arsenal rejected us, move to next target. If Ox rejected us, move to next target. No need to tapping him. We would see exactly what is going on.

But the idea to try landing a player who clearly prefers to play CM (meaning high chance of refusing us) two days before deadline without any quality backup plan, thats idiotic.  

Im not even mad at Ox. He refused us, it happens. He wants to play midfield. But I blame our board for being naive and simply said fucked up our situation very nice. Tomorrow is last day and we still have one proper wingback on each side while going into 4 competitons. 

In the end Ox has nothing to do with this, the board are just incompetent to get shit done. 

Unless we sign Aurier or someone similar tomorrow, it will be panic buys over again. Decent quality, overpaid, but come next season and long term, not good enough players. And with few exceptions, thats going on more or less every year for a while now.

Can't blame the board for this imo. ( not that i think the board hasn't made mistakes this window it's just that specifically for the AOC transfer i don't think they did anything wrong)

Arsenal weren't gonna let him go until the very end and it's not like we've been waiting just for AOC.

I don't know what type of contact is allowed and what contact is considered "tapping up". Chances are we didn't know he wanted to only play CM. 

Maybe we did know but thought we could convince him. Not that crazy considering we're in a better position to win trophies then Arsenal and Liverpool and would be able to offer him better wages.

Unfortunately he really wants to play CM. Not much to be done.