Rumoured Yoshinori Muto

[Kendrick 339]

Even Hazard needs to be rested sometimes and he can also get injured. It was Salah and Schürrle that replaced him in the last few months but now they are gone and Cuadrado only plays on the right wing(isn't he?). It wouldn't be bad to have another LW in the squad.

And how many times did Schurlle or Salah subbed him? Almost none.

I doubt Muto will get more minutes than them (on that position).

[nyikolajevics 2,703]

And how many times did Schurlle or Salah subbed him? Almost none.

I doubt Muto will get more minutes than them (on that position).

Even Salah played in 8 matches this season. A Japanese guy wearing Chelsea shirt 1-2 times a month can be benefitial for the club and also he can turn out to be a good player.

[Kendrick 339]

Even Salah played in 8 matches this season. A Japanese guy wearing Chelsea shirt 1-2 times a month can be benefitial for the club and also he can turn out to be a good player.

How many league games are in those 8 matches?

Without checking I can bet at least 5 are from either CL group stage, FAC or CC first rounds against lower leagues oppositions.

So at the first half of the season, yeah he can play here and there,

But I doubt if on a full season he will keep a record of playing once or twice a month.

Anyway, what I'm saying is- Mourinho didn't trust any of his previous subs to replace Hazard, and that includes names like Mata and De Bruyne (which I know both doesn't necessarily play LW, but in some ways in rotating the midfield they can replace him on the pitch). So I don't expect him to act differently with Muto (maybe he can play in other positions though).

[nyikolajevics 2,703]

How many league games are in those 8 matches?

Without checking I can bet at least 5 are from either CL group stage, FAC or CC first rounds against lower leagues oppositions.

So at the first half of the season, yeah he can play here and there,

But I doubt if on a full season he will keep a record of playing once or twice a month.

Anyway, what I'm saying is- Mourinho didn't trust any of his previous subs to replace Hazard, and that includes names like Mata and De Bruyne (which I know both doesn't necessarily play LW, but in some ways in rotating the midfield they can replace him on the pitch). So I don't expect him to act differently with Muto (maybe he can play in other positions though).

According to transfermarkt.de he can play on both wings and as a striker. I've never seen him play but he seems to have pretty good long shots. A player like this can be a valuable squad member. Of course there is a huge gap between the J-League and the PL but who knows?

[David88 3]

A club as big as ours should not be signing a crappy player to tap into the Asian market. If we want to tap into it sign a fucking good player or at least do a tour or two, what a shambles. If he comes here and takes a spot in the squad and is utter shit what a waste. Even if he goes on loan, who is he? The J League? Kagawa has been the best player to come out of that league and will be for ages and ages I assure you.

smh

you don't even know who the hell he is. He is easily one of the hottest prospects of the JLeague and that's why we're paying 4mln £. It's funny that you mention Kagawa, that back then Dortmund got for around 300 000£ from scouting the second div, but Muto, who set the league record of goals scored for a rookie, is "a crappy player".

Mind you, I don't know and I don't think that he will be as good as Kagawa but the fact that he's not coming from an european side doesn't mean anything. All the japanese players in the Bundesliga came from the JLeague and almost all of them are still there. Either way, he will be loaned out and unless he impresses big we won't even get to see him in a Chelsea shirt probably, so there is no need to be that upset. Have some faith in our scouts ffs.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Jose pretty much laid it out in the press conference, this fella is a Yokohama signing. Whatever doesn't really matter, the thing that we need to look at now is getting our hg quota up so we have a full roster of 25 players.

[Azul 1,615]

Jose pretty much laid it out in the press conference, this fella is a Yokohama signing. Whatever doesn't really matter, the thing that we need to look at now is getting our hg quota up so we have a full roster of 25 players.

So it's official?

[Oscar 441]

Kind of suprising that out of all the asian players, he was the one to get signed....

It has to be a yokohama move, because they're already a few guys in germany that are established and better, yet this guy gets chosen.

[nyikolajevics 2,703]

Kind of suprising that out of all the asian players, he was the one to get signed....

It has to be a yokohama move, because they're already a few guys in germany that are established and better, yet this guy gets chosen.

Who would you suggest? Uchida, Kagawa, Sakai or Kiyotake are older now and clearly not good enough to play here. Okazaki maybe.. This Muto guy is very young, an exciting talent. He would be very cheap and he may become a pretty good player. He wouldn't be a big flop if he didn't make it though.

Also, Yokohama is a Tokyo based company. Muto was born in Tokyo and plays in Tokyo. It might be relevant, I don't know.

I think it perfectly makes makes sense.

[iseah100 5,612]

It's not an expensive signing. Low risk. Expensive doesn't equal good, Azpi, Remy and Ivanovic all under 12m.

[Jase 43,479]

So it's official?

Kinda, I guess. The offer is already on the table. Just depends on whether the player wants to join us or not. Early reports suggest if he joins us, he'll be loaned to Vitesse next season, unsurprisingly.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

So it's official?

Sounds like it.

[Spike 12,049]

I don't like it when people say players like Muto would sell shirts in Asia. If I were Filippino, Chinese, or even Korean, I'd be really less inclined to buy shirts or start supporting a club with a Japanese player. Because you know....of all that nastiness that happened at the first half of the 20th century.

I don't know how much of the Japanese market is open to supporting a foreign team (I get the feeling it isn't) but if Muto is a good player then he is a good player and good players are always welcome.

[zolayes 14,489]

I don't like it when people say players like Muto would sell shirts in Asia. If I were Filippino, Chinese, or even Korean, I'd be really less inclined to buy shirts or start supporting a club with a Japanese player. Because you know....of all that nastiness that happened at the first half of the 20th century.

I don't know how much of the Japanese market is open to supporting a foreign team (I get the feeling it isn't) but if Muto is a good player then he is a good player and good players are always welcome.

I believe sales of our shirts in Egypt have slumped and it will cause problems with FFP

[David88 3]

Jose pretty much laid it out in the press conference, this fella is a Yokohama signing. Whatever doesn't really matter, the thing that we need to look at now is getting our hg quota up so we have a full roster of 25 players.

he actually did not say that at all, but some people here are trying to get on their confirmation bias I guess. He hinted at the fact that there is obviously a clear commercial benefit\aspect on the operation, but also stressed that the club would not sign a player whose quality is in discussion.

Kind of suprising that out of all the asian players, he was the one to get signed....

It has to be a yokohama move, because they're already a few guys in germany that are established and better, yet this guy gets chosen.

I don't think that it's surprising actually, we are talking about a prospect, not a player bought to compete with Eden or whatever. It's true, Chelsea could have gone for a more popular player like Kiyotake, etc, but don't forget that those players would not be happy at all to be loaned out if José decides so, or rot on the bench, so there is no guarantee that they'd sign.

Muto, if he accepts, probably knows perfectly that his chances to see first team football are slim to none. I don't think he is even VISA eligible. The club will loan him out, and we'll find out if he really has potential to be a squad member in the next years, or will be resold.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

he actually did not say that at all, but some people here are trying to get on their confirmation bias I guess. He hinted at the fact that there is obviously a clear commercial benefit\aspect on the operation, but also stressed that the club would not sign a player whose quality is in discussion.

I don't think that it's surprising actually, we are talking about a prospect, not a player bought to compete with Eden or whatever. It's true, Chelsea could have gone for a more popular player like Kiyotake, etc, but don't forget that those players would not be happy at all to be loaned out if José decides so, or rot on the bench, so there is no guarantee that they'd sign.

Muto, if he accepts, probably knows perfectly that his chances to see first team football are slim to none. I don't think he is even VISA eligible. The club will loan him out, and we'll find out if he really has potential to be a squad member in the next years, or will be resold.

Oh come on that is bullshit. A player signing should benefit a club in footballing terms not commercially. If we aren't big in Asia find another way to improve our fanbase there, I'd rather have a good enough player who can make it here in a few years or compete already than someone signed to entirely boost the profile of the club in another country. People say our youth system is pointless but if we are signing players to benefit us commercially then the chances of a young guy coming through is even slimmer than what it was before because eventually players aren't going to come here to go on loan to Vitesse or that for 2-3 years, they will want to be part of the squad then it seems even more and more pointless.

We've signed poor players before like Ben Haim, Marin, Wallace, Zhirkov, Torres etc so for Jose to say that a players we are signings quality is never in discussion or whatever is ridiculous he knows the clubs transfer history has not always been a roaring success in the past.

[Yeboii 1,844]

We've signed poor players before like Ben Haim, Marin, Wallace, Zhirkov, Torres

Way to early to judge Wallace as he is quite promising IMO. He just wasn't played at all at Inter.

[nyikolajevics 2,703]

We've signed poor players before like Ben Haim, Marin, Wallace, Zhirkov, Torres

What is common in these players? I don't see the logic.. Ben Haim was a good investment, Marin is a very talented but injury prone player, Wallace is still 20 years old only, Zhirkov was pretty good, Torres was a huge flop but he is not a 'poor player'.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

What is common in these players? I don't see the logic.. Ben Haim was a good investment, Marin is a very talented but injury prone player, Wallace is still 20 years old only, Zhirkov was pretty good, Torres was a huge flop but he is not a 'poor player'.

I'm not judging these players on what they did for other clubs, I'm judging them on what they've done/did for us. All poor players for us, although perhaps Wallace's inclusion is harsh but like McEachran sitting on the bench for Vitesse, points to one way and that is the exit door.

[David88 3]

Oh come on that is bullshit. A player signing should benefit a club in footballing terms not commercially.

And that's exactly what Josè said. There wouldn't be space at Chelsea for a player that is no benefit to the club. The fact that it benefits it commercially too, is just a win-win situation.

Do people really think that Yokohama decided the player? Don't make me laugh, that's disrespectful towards Chelsea, the coach, and the management.

Milan signed Honda, and it gave them a nice commercial boost. He also happens to be a gifted player.

You're the one making up that he's a crappy player, in case you haven't realized. Which is what José was quick to point out

If we aren't big in Asia find another way to improve our fanbase there, I'd rather have a good enough player who can make it here in a few years or compete already than someone signed to entirely boost the profile of the club in another country. People say our youth system is pointless but if we are signing players to benefit us commercially then the chances of a young guy coming through is even slimmer than what it was before because eventually players aren't going to come here to go on loan to Vitesse or that for 2-3 years, they will want to be part of the squad then it seems even more and more pointless.

We've signed poor players before like Ben Haim, Marin, Wallace, Zhirkov, Torres etc so for Jose to say that a players we are signings quality is never in discussion or whatever is ridiculous he knows the clubs transfer history has not always been a roaring success in the past.

You say "I'd rather have a good enough player" but then you say "who can make it here in a few years" - and that's Muto, not Kagawa or the other european based. They're not 20 years old. In regards to a player who can compete already, well that's a fan's point of view I guess. Most fans don't care about young talent, they like the finished product. But clubs would be running to the ground if every board reasoned just like this. It's not a sustainable model. There were probably no conditions to get an established player, or the board simply decided that there is more upswing in bringing a player with potential.

Again, "someone signed to entirely boost the profile of the club in another country" is your made up stuff.

If we had a Brazilian sponsor and Muto was called Mutinho and he had a fanbase in Brazil, we wouldn't be having this discussion probably.

As for your last sentence, none of them was "a poor player", and it's not like Mourinho was here forever. Nobody has the crystal ball though, do you know any club that hasn't signed good players who turned out to be not as good as hoped. That's football. Even if we got an estabilished player (like Torres) it could go wrong. So what's the problem. All I'm sayin' is, don't be knee-jerk