cosmicway 1,333 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Has this kind of madness ever seen before ?I know of the jihaddists, the kamikazi and also of self sacrificial actions in wartime.But this is different.There is only the Moorgate disaster in 1975 that comes to my memory. What happened there seems to be that the train driver as a result of momentary amnesia believed the station was to be bypassed and also forgot about the blind tunnel.So it looks to me like this one was something we have never seen before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Nothing short of absolute tragic what has happened. The world is a horrible, horrible place and with some real messed up pieces of shit.Would not like to think what those families are going through right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 My thoughts for all the passengers and their families. What a tragic thing to happened. Why the copilot could have even think to sacrificing all the people with him? As if the suicide itself is not a sin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Nothing short of absolute tragic what has happened. The world is a horrible, horrible place and with some real messed up pieces of shit.Would not like to think what those families are going through right now.What I also think that is horrible are the german newspapers that show the full name of the co pilot and an uncensored picture of him .So basically,everyone knows his last name and I think that you should never be allowed to show the full name of this co pilot in order to protect his family.Very sad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 What I also think that is horrible are the german newspapers that show the full name of the co pilot and an uncensored picture of him .So basically,everyone knows his last name and I think that you should never be allowed to show the full name of this co pilot in order to protect his family.Very sad...News sells I'm afraid, and by showing his face and giving names it accelerates sales and gives exposure. Social media also plays a huge part in anything now, and what was a snowball becomes something off the scale within seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Has this kind of madness ever seen before ?I know of the jihaddists, the kamikazi and also of self sacrificial actions in wartime.But this is different.There is only the Moorgate disaster in 1975 that comes to my memory. What happened there seems to be that the train driver as a result of momentary amnesia believed the station was to be bypassed and also forgot about the blind tunnel.So it looks to me like this one was something we have never seen before.No, it has happened before quite a few times actually. I read it in a newspaper - http://maailm.postimees.ee/3136533/kaheksa-juhtumit-piloodid-kes-lennuki-meelega-alla-kukutasidIt's in estonian, use google translate or something if you're interested. One very similar case happened in 1999 with 217 casualties.Btw, here is a different view on this incident - http://www.eutimes.net/2015/03/us-laser-test-destroys-germanwings-airliner-killing-150-innocent-civilians/KevinAshburner, thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 No, it has happened before quite a few times actually. I read it in a newspaper - http://maailm.postimees.ee/3136533/kaheksa-juhtumit-piloodid-kes-lennuki-meelega-alla-kukutasidIt's in estonian, use google translate or something if you're interested. One very similar case happened in 1999 with 217 casualties.Btw, here is a different view on this incident - http://www.eutimes.net/2015/03/us-laser-test-destroys-germanwings-airliner-killing-150-innocent-civilians/KevinAshburner, thoughts?Chrome said cannot translate to English but then I said Estonian to Greek and it did somewhat.Difficult to understand but it appears to give a list of cases of mad pilots who caused crashes in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Helios was a huge Greek tragedy with locked door again.The pilots fainted or were already dead as a result of loss of pressure.A passenger who was also a trainee pilot tried for hours to unlock but could n't.War planes were called in and they flew next to the plane and their pilots could even see the passenger trying to open the door but could do nothinhg. Those war pilots had orders to fire rockets on the plane in case it took direction towards the city of Athens,We don't know if the passengers were already dead from pressure loss but the Cyprus guy who was trying to save the plane also went around the seats and fixed mask to them.In the end the door opened as a result of no more fuel left but only seconds were left and crashed on the ground killing everybody.No parts of the bodies of the pilots were ever recovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Chrome said cannot translate to English but then I said Estonian to Greek and it did somewhat.Difficult to understand but it appears to give a list of cases of mad pilots who caused crashes in the past.Weird, it translates to english with no problems for me.I will also search about the helios tragedy, sounds sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Weird, it translates to english with no problems for me.I will also search about the helios tragedy, sounds sick.Actually the jet pilots saw the trainee in charge of the plane, but without fuel he could not take it any place safe.The man was wearing black, not the colour of the crew uniforms so the air force pilots thought he might well be a terrorist. In any case if that plane went towards habitations they were going to shoot.The fact that he fitted masks to the passengers was ascertained by the autopsies.It appears first the pilots lost conscience, then the passengers but the trainee and a stewardess were able to put their masks in time. But the door could not be opened and there were no emergency codes then - they were introduced after Heliow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Actually the jet pilots saw the trainee in charge of the plane, but without fuel he could not take it any place safe.The man was wearing black, not the colour of the crew uniforms so the air force pilots thought he might well be a terrorist. In any case if that plane went towards habitations they were going to shoot.The fact that he fitted masks to the passengers was ascertained by the autopsies.It appears first the pilots lost conscience, then the passengers but the trainee and a stewardess were able to put their masks in time. But the door could not be opened and there were no emergency codes then - they were introduced after Heliow.How come that dude didn't lose consciousness though? The masks are attached above the seats and can't be carried around, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 How come that dude didn't lose consciousness though? The masks are attached above the seats and can't be carried around, no?The accident was in the cabin.The passengers quarters were affected later - or so it seems.The Cypriot man was about to start his career as a pilot so he knew things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 The accident was in the cabin.The passengers quarters were affected later - or so it seems.The Cypriot man was about to start his career as a pilot so he knew things.The guy is a hero despite the outcome. What was his name? Far more important than knowing the psychopath killers names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Bloody horrible and the poor Captain as well in knowledge of what was happening when found himself locked out and yet unable to get inside to stop it.Yet so little about him.Know the Co-Pilot would now be the focus but still.Hate to think what the families are going through especially since this has come out and the Co-Pilots family as well.His actions not their fault yet have to live and deal with the consequences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 The guy is a hero despite the outcome. What was his name? Far more important than knowing the psychopath killers names.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I have not been able to catch up on the facts, can someone please enlighten me?Was this a terrorist thing?Is it true that he turn Muslim and then did this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Another case where people just ASK WHY .. great sadness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I have not been able to catch up on the facts, can someone please enlighten me?Was this a terrorist thing?Is it true that he turn Muslim and then did this?I think it wasn't, it was said he had severe depression that he was hiding from the airline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Now his ex apparently is saying he used to sit up during sleep saying "We are going down" and that he said his name will be remembered forever and claimed he would commit a heinous act that will be remembered forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I have not been able to catch up on the facts, can someone please enlighten me?Was this a terrorist thing?Is it true that he turn Muslim and then did this?nope.someone would've claimed responsblity right away giving the coverage.think it was thought of at first till more came out.Co pilots suicide.passengers murderApparently translated what he said was.'One day I will do something that will change the whole system , and everyone will then know my name and remember me'Mail shock horror given it a spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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