Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Hugely overrated. He has qualities but he plays in a midfield 3 with 2 defensive mids. In a 2 man midfield he'd get dominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marketing media pet 27 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Hugely overrated. He has qualities but he plays in a midfield 3 with 2 defensive mids. In a 2 man midfield he'd get dominated.huh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 He won't EVER be better than Pogba. Despite different styles of play. To the people that rate him highly than Pogba: "You don't watch Pogba regularly", I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,148 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 If Pogba is worth 100M, how much worth this guy? The real Young star of the midfield. Amazing pass, amazing vision, character of a veteran, a pitbull in defense. Right now is TOP 5 on his position, in 2 years will be the best.As much as I rate him, if he played for us in the way we utilize Fabregas in the big games I think he would struggle. PSG play to his strengths while in big games we don't play to Fabregas strengths in big games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illmatic 901 Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 He won't EVER be better than Pogba. Despite different styles of play. To the people that rate him highly than Pogba: "You don't watch Pogba regularly", I'd say.In fact yes, and is for that who I insist a lot in this forum that Pogba is very Overrated and considered that Verratti is Better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 As much as I rate him, if he played for us in the way we utilize Fabregas in the big games I think he would struggle. PSG play to his strengths while in big games we don't play to Fabregas strengths in big games.Verrati and Cesc are two different players.Verratti speciality is dribblng, is strong on the ball and has fantastic agility..... Exacly like a certain EDEN HAZARD and the total opposite of Cesc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Verratti has 2 weakness imo.His height and he plays reckless quite a bit. He isn't the fastest guy, but he has great agility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,148 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Verrati and Cesc are two different players.Verratti speciality is dribblng, is strong on the ball and has fantastic agility..... Exacly like a certain EDEN HAZARD and the total opposite of Cesc. Yeah, I never said they were similar players. My point was that PSG utilize him to his strengths while we only utilize Fabregas main strengths in games against much inferior teams. When we play teams with similar qualities like PSG, he is not played in his favoured position while Verratti is. Fabregas is a dictator, not a chaser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Yeah, I never said they were similar players. My point was that PSG utilize him to his strengths while we only utilize Fabregas main strengths in games against much inferior teams. When we play teams with similar qualities like PSG, he is not played in his favoured position while Verratti is. Fabregas is a dictator, not a chaser.Verrati can play dm, cm and am quite well.If Verratti played parking the bus, he could shield the balll, win back the ball very well and dictate from a deeper position. If you remember the barcelona game, verratti held his own very well under blanc's negative tactics against barca. Cesc on the otherhand cannot shield the ball and isn't a ball winner. So, Verratti would do a lot better under those weaknesses Cesc possess against big teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,148 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Verrati can play dm, cm and am quite well.If Verratti played parking the bus, he could shield the balll, win back the ball very well and dictate from a deeper position. If you remember the barcelona game, verratti held his own very well under blanc's negative tactics against barca. Cesc on the otherhand cannot shield the ball and isn't a ball winner. So, Verratti would do a lot better under those weaknesses Cesc possess against big teams... I get you like him, I do to but stop overrating all the positions he can play in to an effective level. Yes, DM and CM he is comfortable in. If you played him consecutively in AM against good teams he would find it difficult to influence a game and you are not getting the best out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I get you like him, I do to but stop overrating all the positions he can play in to an effective level. Yes, DM and CM he is comfortable in. If you played him consecutively in AM against good teams he would find it difficult to influence a game and you are not getting the best out of him.Your point was that Cesc has a difficult time because of Jose's negative tactics against big team.Those same negative tactics wouldn't be a problem with Verrati since his skillset are made for them. 1. Dribbling2. Holding the ball up3. Winning the ball back3 traits that Cesc is not good at and Verrati is. 2 of those traits is something a certain EDEN HAZARD has and why he starts every big game for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,148 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Your point was that Cesc has a difficult time because of Jose's negative tactics against big team.Those same negative tactics wouldn't be a problem with Verrati since his skillset are made for them. 1. Dribbling2. Holding the ball up3. Winning the ball back3 traits that Cesc is not good at and Verrati is. 2 of those traits is something a certain EDEN HAZARD has and why he starts every big game for us. He may have those traits that Fabregas does not but once again my point stands, you put him in no.10 in our position and he strugges. I recognise he has those aforementioned strenghts but like Fabregas the game would pass him by because you are putting a dictator in the no.10 role which means unless you have a like for like replacement you will struggle to get the ball. Verratti would be no difference to Fabregas although I do acknowledge your points that he has those abilities Fabregas does not. However can you imagine him playing a no.10 role for us with Matic and Mikel behind him. He would do all the chasing, put in tackles but the amount of times he touches the ball would be very limited becasue of the struggle we would have to keep possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 He may have those traits that Fabregas does not but once again my point stands, you put him in no.10 in our position and he strugges. I recognise he has those aforementioned strenghts but like Fabregas the game would pass him by because you are putting a dictator in the no.10 role which means unless you have a like for like replacement you will struggle to get the ball. Verratti would be no difference to Fabregas although I do acknowledge your points that he has those abilities Fabregas does not. However can you imagine him playing a no.10 role for us with Matic and Mikel behind him. He would do all the chasing, put in tackles but the amount of times he touches the ball would be very limited becasue of the struggle we would have to keep possession.Against big teams, Jose does 4-3-3, the same formation PSG does. However, instead of Matic, Verrati has motta. And either rambo/oscar as the other cm, not mikel vs a b2b in matudi...Verrati made our midfield irrelevant even with the negative tactics. Verrati took on barcelona midfield easily. Watch this kid when he finally moves to a big team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 He's made for chelsea, he's such an annoying twat with his dirty play and yellow card but no yellow card tackles Great player really, very balanced and complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marketing media pet 27 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 He's pissing all over the overrated Carrick in the last match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Verrati was excellent last night.Made United midfield nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Hugely overrated. He has qualities but he plays in a midfield 3 with 2 defensive mids. In a 2 man midfield he'd get dominated.Same aplies to Cesc then. Except he already plays in two man midfield and we get dominated every game against good opponent.Veratti is top talent and already top player. Better than Pogba right now and majority of CMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 The best midfield prospect in the world. Him, Pogba and Alaba are going to rule the midfields for the next decade. Imagine them in the same team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 The best midfield prospect in the world. Him, Pogba and Alaba are going to rule the midfields for the next decade. Imagine them in the same team... Alaba? i hope you mean Thiago. Alaba is originally a LB and Pep plays him at CM sometimes. He's good there but not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Alaba? i hope you mean Thiago. Alaba is originally a LB and Pep plays him at CM sometimes. He's good there but not that good.Well Pep has a tendency to put players all over the place. And left-back position in Pep's team is something else than in other teams and he might play a midfield role in many other teams like Real Madrid for example. And I thought he actually started his career as a midfielder but it was Heynckes who put him into that left-back role? He can obviously handle both positions but I just have a feeling he will end up in the midfield sooner or later and according (bullshit) media reports he would rather play in midfield and have the ball more in his legs.But yeah, this had nothing do with the fact that Verratti is one hell of a midfielder these days and only keeps getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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