Juan Cuadrado

[the wes 7,212]

5 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

 

Morata I'd absolutely love to see here 

Morata hinted he could leave juventus such a steal at £24m

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/664241/Chelsea-Arsenal-Juventus-Alvaro-Morata-hints-at-move-transfer-news-gossip/amp?client=ms-android-htc-rev#

[CHOULO19 24,332]

7 minutes ago, the wes said:

Morata hinted he could leave juventus such a steal at £24m

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/664241/Chelsea-Arsenal-Juventus-Alvaro-Morata-hints-at-move-transfer-news-gossip/amp?client=ms-android-htc-rev#

Yeah, I know he's entirely happy at Juve, but I don't think Chelsea is very high up his list of where he'd want to go if he is to move. I'd love to be wrong about that, though. 

[the wes 7,212]

5 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Yeah, I know he's entirely happy at Juve, but I don't think Chelsea is very high up his list of where he'd want to go if he is to move. I'd love to be wrong about that, though. 

I think Real Madrid have a buyback clause on him but 

[mccg 1,528]

48 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

I don't follow transfer rumors, but are we linked with Bonucci? Seems a rather random one..

Morata I'd absolutely love to see here but I think it's unlikely he'd want to come next season with no CL football, and it's not like he has a special relation with Conte to be swayed. 

Seems something in the Bonucci 1 for sure,you probly right with Morata,maybe Fabregas,Pedro,Costa,Azpil could put in a good word?!Looks like we may be dealing with Juve either way this summer!

[Pizy 18,866]

Unless he's going to play as a wingback (which I think is a terrible idea unless we buy two top class CB's) then I see no place for him in our team. If he's just coming back as a depth player to sit on the bench behind Willian and Pedro then there's no point and we should cash in.

[chelseafan26 293]

7 hours ago, Pizy said:

Unless he's going to play as a wingback (which I think is a terrible idea unless we buy two top class CB's) then I see no place for him in our team. If he's just coming back as a depth player to sit on the bench behind Willian and Pedro then there's no point and we should cash in.

Why would he be behind Pedro in the heirachy?

[LondonsFinest 692]

Sell him. He's obviously settled to Italian football more and there is no reason for us to get him back. Pretty sure he doesn't want it, either. 

[Pizy 18,866]

8 hours ago, chelseafan26 said:

Why would he be behind Pedro in the heirachy?

Because Pedro is easily a better player?

[chelseafan26 293]

Just now, Pizy said:

Because Pedro is easily a better player?

Really? This is based on what? His performance for us againt villa, newcastle and Bournemouth? Except for these teams, each and every game he has played for us, he has been average to poor. Oh wait, there was WBA too, his first game.

Sorry if I dont agree with your assessment of pedro. And i wholeheartedly hope Conte does not agree too. 

[lucio 5,418]

5 minutes ago, chelseafan26 said:

Really? This is based on what? His performance for us againt villa, newcastle and Bournemouth? Except for these teams, each and every game he has played for us, he has been average to poor. Oh wait, there was WBA too, his first game.

Sorry if I dont agree with your assessment of pedro. And i wholeheartedly hope Conte does not agree too. 

agreed, he is too lightweight and sloppy to be of any use. and his finishing is usually dire too, except in a few easy games

[Pizy 18,866]

6 minutes ago, chelseafan26 said:

Really? This is based on what? His performance for us againt villa, newcastle and Bournemouth? Except for these teams, each and every game he has played for us, he has been average to poor. Oh wait, there was WBA too, his first game.

Sorry if I dont agree with your assessment of pedro. And i wholeheartedly hope Conte does not agree too. 

No, I base that off of his pedigree and years of being a great player. It's his first season in a new league, new country, with new teammates, and in a year of massive upheaval at the club. Has he been fantastic? No. Has he done well enough to play a significant part next season? Yes. 

Cuadrado looked like a fish out of water here. At least with Pedro we know what we're getting.

[chelseafan26 293]

8 minutes ago, lucio said:

agreed, he is too lightweight and sloppy to be of any use. and his finishing is usually dire too, except in a few easy games

Exactly.

This is not saying that Cuadrado seems any better, but it just baffles me that people use one yardstick to measure one player and a completely different one for another. Cuadrado was pathetic for his 300 odd minutes for us, Pedro was been beyond awful for a whole season except for against relegation candidates. For me, both are not good enough for chelsea and in case i do want to take a chance with one of them, I do it with cuadrado. He can play the wingback position, he can acrually produce something with the ball on his feet meanwhile pedro's USP is his movement which is mostly rendered useless with his finishing and with our style of play.

3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

No, I base that off of his pedigree and years of being a great player. It's his first season in a new league, new country, with new teammates, and in a year of massive upheaval at the club. Has he been fantastic? No. Has he done well enough to play a significant part next season? Yes. 

Cuadrado looked like a fish out of water here. At least with Pedro we know what we're getting.

It was cuadrado's first season in a new league, new country, new teammates, and he came in Janurary. How has he done enough to play a significant part next season? By being a below average useless player? If we want to do an encore of this season then sure Pedro is the best way to go forward. 

Pedro was a barcelona player, a player of the system. and he has looked every bit a player suited for a system. Not a player which is suited for ours. And i dont think that we are anywhere close to playing the barcelona system. 

So mate, I honestly dont understand how you can judge one player on 300 minutes with the same conditions while say pedro has been good enough despite his sub par shit performances all season long.

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Debate:SHOULD CHELSEA KEEP JUAN CUADRADO?

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Juan Cuadrado helped Juventus win their fifth Serie A title in a row last weekend. His been in fine form of late scoring some amazing goals most notably against Palermo and Bayern Munich in the Champions League. His approaching 40 appearances this season and at times has looked every part of the player which saw Chelsea pay Fiorentina £23million in January 2015 for his services.

Juventus are keen to open talks with Chelsea over the permanent signing of the Colombian but new Chelsea manager Antonio Conte is considering bringing him back to Stamford Bridge for next season.

Conte had time to watch the winger closely while visiting his old club as manager of the Italian national team in preparation for this summers European Championships. His a long time admirer, before Cuadrado moved to Chelsea he attempted to sign him while manager of Juve.

Juve director Giuseppe Marotta has said his hopeful of persuading Chelsea to sell the winger this summer.

“We have not held talks with Chelsea yet over Cuadrado, but it will be a complicated deal as well, just like with Morata,” he said.

“Juan has been important to us, but he is only on loan. Chelsea are well stocked in his position, though, so we will try to make a deal.”

If he does move on in the summer Chelsea are well stocked in Cuadrado’s playing position with the likes of Eden Hazard, Willian, Pedro and Kenedy who all operate on the wing. There’s also Victor Moses on loan at rivals West Ham who is set to return in June.

When you see Cuadrado in the kind of form been showing this season it makes you wonder what happened during his time at Chelsea. Was it simply just a case of the Premier League being to physical and not for everyone or Mourinho’s tactics?

TalkChelsea.net

 

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On 26/04/2016 at 6:12 PM, CHOULO19 said:

I don't follow transfer rumors, but are we linked with Bonucci? Seems a rather random one..

Morata I'd absolutely love to see here but I think it's unlikely he'd want to come next season with no CL football, and it's not like he has a special relation with Conte to be swayed. 

Would absolutely love to have either of those players.

We have been linked with Bonucci several times. Although the possibility that he'd Join Chelsea seemed to have been reliably quashed, it resurfaced again this weekend.

Like everyone else, I doubt that our stock is high enough to attract class A players. It is high enough however for agents to use our supposed interest for their own reasons.

[Steve 10,227]

Conte chased Juan for almost two seasons at Juve, expect to see him back here next season.