Lack of English players in the squad

[iseah100 5,612]

When Shaw is back from injury he will take that LWB back spot quite easily. Even if they revert to 4 at the back he will get that LB spot quite easily as well imo.

Are you sure? They have Rojo and Blind who can play LB, would they be willing to throw a 19 year old in the starting XI in a season they NEED to finish top 4?

I don't know.

[Jase 43,479]

Just the way it is, man. Just like people think every player on the Spanish/German/Brazilian team is world class.

Seriously, how many times have you said that in the last few days?!

[iseah100 5,612]

Seriously, how many times have you said that in the last few days?!

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Are you sure? They have Rojo and Blind who can play LB, would they be willing to throw a 19 year old in the starting XI in a season they NEED to finish top 4?

I don't know.

Rojo has been bought to play as a CB though. That is his main position. Blind is a DM who can play LB but is very slow. Rojo will play LB or LWB if Shaw is injured or playing really bad and the same applies to Blind. Blind is a very good technical player who can do a good shift at LB but in the PL if he he is played at LB he will get caught our for pace. I don't think they would have spent that much for Shaw to be on the bench. I think is more or less got that LWB spot when he returns.

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Ignorant fool. Warned!

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

When Shaw is back from injury he will take that LWB back spot quite easily. Even if they revert to 4 at the back he will get that LB spot quite easily as well imo.

You mean the guy Van Gaal ordered to go train on his own because he's out of shape? Ya... Not so sure about that one. He's injured now but before that he couldn't even train with the main group.

He has potential, nothing more.

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Rojo has been bought to play as a CB though. That is his main position. Blind is a DM who can play LB but is very slow. Rojo will play LB or LWB if Shaw is injured or playing really bad and the same applies to Blind. Blind is a very good technical player who can do a good shift at LB but in the PL if he he is played at LB he will get caught our for pace. I don't think they would have spent that much for Shaw to be on the bench. I think is more or less got that LWB spot when he returns.

You do realize Blind played LWB for Van Gaal in the biggest tournament in football right? Its perhaps the reason why he was acquired.

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You mean the guy Van Gaal ordered to go train on his own because he's out of shape? Ya... Not so sure about that one. He's injured now but before that he couldn't even train with the main group.

He has potential, nothing more.

LVG later said that Shaw has been training fantastically and recently praised him as an "example to the dressing room".

You do realize Blind played LWB for Van Gaal in the biggest tournament in football right? Its perhaps the reason why he was acquired.

Yes, he played their in the WC. But his main position is a DM. It is good for LVG that he is versatile because he can play numerous positions but one thing he lacks is pace. He operates best from a DM and I am sure that is where LVG plans on playing him. I am 100% sure on that. I expect to see him as the DC/DM in front of Rojo and Evans in a 3-5-2 formation. They did not spend £32m on Shaw to be a sub. Shaw will be a starter for sure.

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I don't think they would have spent that much for Shaw to be on the bench.

Yep...no chance that a £30 million player could end up on United's bench.

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LVG later said that Shaw has been training fantastically and recently praised him as an "example to the dressing room".

Yes, he played their in the WC. But his main position is a DM. It is good for LVG that he is versatile because he can play numerous positions but one thing he lacks is pace. He operates best from a DM and I am sure that is where LVG plans on playing him. I am 100% sure on that. I expect to see him as the DC/DM in front of Rojo and Evans in a 3-5-2 formation. They did not spend £32m on Shaw to be a sub. Shaw will be a starter for sure.

Juan Mata says hello.

[Jase 43,479]

Considering half of 'The Board' thread is filled with discussion about the lack of English players in the squad and doesn't look like it's gonna stop anytime soon, will move those posts to here to avoid derailing that thread any further...

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Yep...no chance that a £30 million player could end up on United's bench.

Juan Mata says hello.

Funny thing is United have started Mata every game this season so far but either way they have riches in attack so that is understandable. Shaw on the other hand has been offered huge wages etc to join United. United did not just buy him for his potential. If you lot really think Blind or Rojo will be the starting LB/LWB over Shaw you have no idea. Shaw is key to that 3-5-2 formation if LVG persists with it. In a league like the PL you need pace at fullback. Shaw offers LVG exactly what he wants from the WB role. Rojo has been bought to play as a CB and Blind DM like I said. Time will tell but I am sure most pundits, United fans and LVG knows himself that Shaw will get that place when he returns.

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Funny thing is United have started Mata every game this season so far but either way they have riches in attack so that is understandable. Shaw on the other hand has been offered huge wages etc to join United. United did not just buy him for his potential. If you lot really think Blind or Rojo will be the starting LB/LWB over Shaw you have no idea. Shaw is key to that 3-5-2 formation if LVG persists with it. In a league like the PL you need pace at fullback. Shaw offers LVG exactly what he wants from the WB role. Rojo has been bought to play as a CB and Blind DM like I said. Time will tell but I am sure most pundits, United fans and LVG knows himself that Shaw will get that place when he returns.

point is the transfer fee means little, its who is best suited for Van Gaal's system. Blind, in my opinion, will start there because he already knows what Van Gaal wants from that position. Shaw will have to work his way into the side.

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Funny thing is United have started Mata every game this season so far but either way they have riches in attack so that is understandable. Shaw on the other hand has been offered huge wages etc to join United. United did not just buy him for his potential. If you lot really think Blind or Rojo will be the starting LB/LWB over Shaw you have no idea. Shaw is key to that 3-5-2 formation if LVG persists with it. In a league like the PL you need pace at fullback. Shaw offers LVG exactly what he wants from the WB role. Rojo has been bought to play as a CB and Blind DM like I said. Time will tell but I am sure most pundits, United fans and LVG knows himself that Shaw will get that place when he returns.

The notion that he will take that spot 'easily' is what I actually thought you were incorrect about.

But you have a point that no player bought in for a big price and on high wages would have anything but 'ease' in acquiring a spot in that team.

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point is the transfer fee means little, its who is best suited for Van Gaal's system. Blind, in my opinion, will start there because he already knows what Van Gaal wants from that position. Shaw will have to work his way into the side.

Blind will be exposed at that position, that is my point. He has all the technical abilities but is very slow. If he comes up against speedy wingers he will be chasing grass. But his technical abilities are suited to a DM in the PL. I don't think United are paying Shaw around £100k p/w to be on the bench. If you look at United's first 3 fixtues, I would not say they are missing a Blind type player at LWB. But they are certainly missing a Shaw type of player. Once they get Shaw there I think they will be better balanced. Trust me on this, Blind will play with Ander or like I was saying just in front of the defence.

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Blind will be exposed at that position, that is my point. He has all the technical abilities but is very slow. If he comes up against speedy wingers he will be chasing grass. But his technical abilities are suited to a DM in the PL. I don't think United are paying Shaw around £100k p/w to be on the bench. If you look at United's first 3 fixtues, I would not say they are missing a Blind type player at LWB. But they are certainly missing a Shaw type of player. Once they get Shaw there I think they will be better balanced. Trust me on this, Blind will play with Ander or like I was saying just in front of the defence.

Please carry on the discussion here.

The other thread is back to being about 'The Board'.

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The notion that he will take that spot 'easily' is what I actually thought you were incorrect about.

But you have a point that no player bought in for a big price and on high wages would have anything but 'ease' in acquiring a spot in that team.

I do think he will get that spot quite easily because there is no one like him in that role. Part of the reason why I think Shaw went United and United offerd him lucrative wages was based on he would be a first team starter. I think time will show that I was proved right anyway.

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Blind will be exposed at that position, that is my point. He has all the technical abilities but is very slow. If he comes up against speedy wingers he will be chasing grass. But his technical abilities are suited to a DM in the PL. I don't think United are paying Shaw around £100k p/w to be on the bench. If you look at United's first 3 fixtues, I would not say they are missing a Blind type player at LWB. But they are certainly missing a Shaw type of player. Once they get Shaw there I think they will be better balanced. Trust me on this, Blind will play with Ander or like I was saying just in front of the defence.

Yet he played there for the manager in the world cup?

Anyway Shaw was purchased for the future, I doubt with the pressure mounting at OT, that Van Gaal will go with the guy who he deemed unfit over a guy he trusted to get his side to the semis of the World Cup. Perhaps long term Blind is the DM (he's not good there either) but in the immediate future, before things settle down I'm willing to wager its Blind.

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Yet he played there for the manager in the world cup?

Anyway Shaw was purchased for the future, I doubt with the pressure mounting at OT, that Van Gaal will go with the guy who he deemed unfit over a guy he trusted to get his side to the semis of the World Cup. Perhaps long term Blind is the DM (he's not good there either) but in the immediate future, before things settle down I'm willing to wager its Blind.

Please carry on the discussion here...