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LVG later said that Shaw has been training fantastically and recently praised him as an "example to the dressing room".

Yes, he played their in the WC. But his main position is a DM. It is good for LVG that he is versatile because he can play numerous positions but one thing he lacks is pace. He operates best from a DM and I am sure that is where LVG plans on playing him. I am 100% sure on that. I expect to see him as the DC/DM in front of Rojo and Evans in a 3-5-2 formation. They did not spend £32m on Shaw to be a sub. Shaw will be a starter for sure.

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Considering half of 'The Board' thread is filled with discussion about the lack of English players in the squad and doesn't look like it's gonna stop anytime soon, will move those posts to here to avoid derailing that thread any further...

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Yep...no chance that a £30 million player could end up on United's bench.

Juan Mata says hello.

Funny thing is United have started Mata every game this season so far but either way they have riches in attack so that is understandable. Shaw on the other hand has been offered huge wages etc to join United. United did not just buy him for his potential. If you lot really think Blind or Rojo will be the starting LB/LWB over Shaw you have no idea. Shaw is key to that 3-5-2 formation if LVG persists with it. In a league like the PL you need pace at fullback. Shaw offers LVG exactly what he wants from the WB role. Rojo has been bought to play as a CB and Blind DM like I said. Time will tell but I am sure most pundits, United fans and LVG knows himself that Shaw will get that place when he returns.

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Funny thing is United have started Mata every game this season so far but either way they have riches in attack so that is understandable. Shaw on the other hand has been offered huge wages etc to join United. United did not just buy him for his potential. If you lot really think Blind or Rojo will be the starting LB/LWB over Shaw you have no idea. Shaw is key to that 3-5-2 formation if LVG persists with it. In a league like the PL you need pace at fullback. Shaw offers LVG exactly what he wants from the WB role. Rojo has been bought to play as a CB and Blind DM like I said. Time will tell but I am sure most pundits, United fans and LVG knows himself that Shaw will get that place when he returns.

point is the transfer fee means little, its who is best suited for Van Gaal's system. Blind, in my opinion, will start there because he already knows what Van Gaal wants from that position. Shaw will have to work his way into the side.

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Funny thing is United have started Mata every game this season so far but either way they have riches in attack so that is understandable. Shaw on the other hand has been offered huge wages etc to join United. United did not just buy him for his potential. If you lot really think Blind or Rojo will be the starting LB/LWB over Shaw you have no idea. Shaw is key to that 3-5-2 formation if LVG persists with it. In a league like the PL you need pace at fullback. Shaw offers LVG exactly what he wants from the WB role. Rojo has been bought to play as a CB and Blind DM like I said. Time will tell but I am sure most pundits, United fans and LVG knows himself that Shaw will get that place when he returns.

The notion that he will take that spot 'easily' is what I actually thought you were incorrect about.

But you have a point that no player bought in for a big price and on high wages would have anything but 'ease' in acquiring a spot in that team. :rolleyes:

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point is the transfer fee means little, its who is best suited for Van Gaal's system. Blind, in my opinion, will start there because he already knows what Van Gaal wants from that position. Shaw will have to work his way into the side.

Blind will be exposed at that position, that is my point. He has all the technical abilities but is very slow. If he comes up against speedy wingers he will be chasing grass. But his technical abilities are suited to a DM in the PL. I don't think United are paying Shaw around £100k p/w to be on the bench. If you look at United's first 3 fixtues, I would not say they are missing a Blind type player at LWB. But they are certainly missing a Shaw type of player. Once they get Shaw there I think they will be better balanced. Trust me on this, Blind will play with Ander or like I was saying just in front of the defence.

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Blind will be exposed at that position, that is my point. He has all the technical abilities but is very slow. If he comes up against speedy wingers he will be chasing grass. But his technical abilities are suited to a DM in the PL. I don't think United are paying Shaw around £100k p/w to be on the bench. If you look at United's first 3 fixtues, I would not say they are missing a Blind type player at LWB. But they are certainly missing a Shaw type of player. Once they get Shaw there I think they will be better balanced. Trust me on this, Blind will play with Ander or like I was saying just in front of the defence.

Please carry on the discussion here.

The other thread is back to being about 'The Board'.

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The notion that he will take that spot 'easily' is what I actually thought you were incorrect about.

But you have a point that no player bought in for a big price and on high wages would have anything but 'ease' in acquiring a spot in that team. :rolleyes:

I do think he will get that spot quite easily because there is no one like him in that role. Part of the reason why I think Shaw went United and United offerd him lucrative wages was based on he would be a first team starter. I think time will show that I was proved right anyway.

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Blind will be exposed at that position, that is my point. He has all the technical abilities but is very slow. If he comes up against speedy wingers he will be chasing grass. But his technical abilities are suited to a DM in the PL. I don't think United are paying Shaw around £100k p/w to be on the bench. If you look at United's first 3 fixtues, I would not say they are missing a Blind type player at LWB. But they are certainly missing a Shaw type of player. Once they get Shaw there I think they will be better balanced. Trust me on this, Blind will play with Ander or like I was saying just in front of the defence.

Yet he played there for the manager in the world cup?

Anyway Shaw was purchased for the future, I doubt with the pressure mounting at OT, that Van Gaal will go with the guy who he deemed unfit over a guy he trusted to get his side to the semis of the World Cup. Perhaps long term Blind is the DM (he's not good there either) but in the immediate future, before things settle down I'm willing to wager its Blind.

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Yet he played there for the manager in the world cup?

Anyway Shaw was purchased for the future, I doubt with the pressure mounting at OT, that Van Gaal will go with the guy who he deemed unfit over a guy he trusted to get his side to the semis of the World Cup. Perhaps long term Blind is the DM (he's not good there either) but in the immediate future, before things settle down I'm willing to wager its Blind.

Please carry on the discussion here...

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