didierforever 7,349 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Yes, the thing is HOW do we know this isn't a start of Costa hamstring issue? he has really been injured since that game against Barca in CL in April and now nearly 2 months he still hasn't fully recovered. How do we know it won't happen again in 3 weeks at WC for him?(if he does go). Torres was so similar with Costa at Atletico this season is that he was over reliance on and as a result overplayed, exactly like Costa is atm. No one is saying we should not sign him, we are simply suggesting it would be better to play safe and do the deal after the WC especially with his clause not going anywhere. Or is that too long and we must have that bright shiny announcement of a expensive player this week?The context is similar so people are being paranoid, considering we signed 2 messed up expensive strikers before this.the context is NOT similar. people are being STUPID not paranoid. a hamstring vs a recursive knee injury is like comparing apples and oranges.costa is nothing like torres as a player. NOTHING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 the context is NOT similar. people are being STUPID not paranoid. a hamstring vs a recursive knee injury is like comparing apples and oranges.costa is nothing like torres as a player. NOTHING. Actually if you bothered to read past posts you would find the link where I show Torres admitting his form was ruined not by the knee but the hamstring. But whatever, we are ''stupid'' for not wanting the club to announce the signing of this guy tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 May I offer an alternative?The name is Ezequiel Lavezzi & Chelsea is his game. So far, he has not signed a new deal with PSG & Jose is lurking by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Actually if you bothered to read past posts you would find the link where I show Torres admitting his form was ruined not by the knee but the hamstring. But whatever, we are ''stupid'' for not wanting the club to announce the signing of this guy tomorrow.When some of us voiced similar concerns prior to the torres signing, they told us "class is permanent"Even if they are different it's still wise to conduct thorough risk assessment before committing to £32m investment.with our recent history with strikers, you can never be too cautious. I pray to God we dont sign this guy.and these are just going to the last page are reading 5/6 posts. these are people who just barely dont want to announce the signing tomorrow??? i dont think so?jose is one of the most successful manager in the world. our board has done some fabulous work in the market in the past 3 years. if they annoiunce the costa signing tomorrow, u can be 100% sure that they would have done the ground work. also what hamstring injury of torres. obviuolsy i dont remember anything about torres' career cos i simply cant care but going thru the stats, it seemes torres just had major knee problems.http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fernando-torres/verletzungen/spieler/7767 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 When some of us voiced similar concerns prior to the torres signing, they told us "class is permanent"Even if they are different it's still wise to conduct thorough risk assessment before committing to £32m investment.with our recent history with strikers, you can never be too cautious. I pray to God we dont sign this guy.and these are just going to the last page are reading 5/6 posts. these are people who just barely dont want to announce the signing tomorrow??? i dont think so?jose is one of the most successful manager in the world. our board has done some fabulous work in the market in the past 3 years. if they annoiunce the costa signing tomorrow, u can be 100% sure that they would have done the ground work. No not the posts where people just outright telling us not to sign Costa but my posthttps://in.news.yahoo.com/30-fernando-torres-very-much-202539061.htmlActually Torres admitted in his autobiography that it was his hamstring at WC 2010 which effectively made him lose his pace. The knee is just the icing on the cake, basically ending his level as a top class striker. It is so similar with Costa now it is not even funny except Costa hasn't picked up that knee injury yet.His exact words are: "It was a real hammer blow,” Torres wrote in his autobiography. “…in my case, because it was my hamstring that was causing me problems – the muscle I live by, the one that gives you acceleration and speed."Actually how would they be able to tell with Costa considering no one knows how serious he has been injured? Yes it looks like a grade 1 hamstring atm but then again he hasn't been fully fit for nearly 2 months(since that game against Barca in CL 1st leg) so it is clearly taking more than normal time to heal for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 It's not even a bad injuryyeah. People act like his knees blew up. He just needs some rest that he never got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 One year from now I bet you and everyone who liked your post will be licking his balls, and I expect things like "he is a god" coming from you.I bet we wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 No not the posts where people just outright telling us not to sign Costa but my postActually how would they be able to tell with Costa considering no one knows how serious he has been injured? Yes it looks like a grade 1 hamstring atm but then again he hasn't been fully fit for nearly 2 months(since that game against Barca in CL 1st leg) so it is clearly taking more than normal time to heal for him.my posts were about these people. specially about people who are comparing torres and costa.torres was a panic buy. a very very poor panic buy. he was already on the decline. mean while our board and manager have accessed the situation here and come to the conclusion that costa is the best man available. i would trust their judgement than these posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 my posts were about these people. specially about people who are comparing torres and costa.torres was a panic buy. a very very poor panic buy. he was already on the decline. mean while our board and manager have accessed the situation here and come to the conclusion that costa is the best man available. i would trust their judgement than these posters.Don't you know? Bushman works for Chelsea, he's giving us inside info, he doesn't want Costa so we aren't getting him. He's also why we sold Luiz. Seriously though, Chelsea's people have evaluated everything, they're not stupid. They know what they're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José1893 89 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Don't give Henrique so much attention, the User is an embarrassment and obviously frustrated. Ridiculous existence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 100, Apparently you heard about my cooperation with Chelsea too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Don't give Henrique so much attention, the User is an embarrassment and obviously frustrated. Ridiculous existence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 This thread is turning into a circus :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Why not set his salary, buy fee before, but wait for the medical after the world cup? Why is it not possible?Probably because his agent would anticipate a stock rise upon his World Cup performance and use that.. It would give him the bargaining power.so from now on, every striker signing will be started with "what if he does a torres". brilliant. judge a signing on what torres has done rather than seeing for urself how different the players are in style, fight, passion and almost every bloody sense.some posters footballing knowldge is exactly 0.That's not true at all.. The concern is how Costa will treat the injury. Whether he/Spain will rush the treatment in order to get him fit or whether they will allow a natural recovery. Del Bosque has delayed naming his squad now till 2nd June which gives Costa 8 days to prove his fitness.. Cuts it a bit fine tbh.For ACL right? Those aren't as bad as they used to be, especially when you're young. With everyones thought process on here we should sell.Hazard before he gets hurt again because it could be a recurring thing. Let's not get Vidal cause he's probably been injured before. Modric too, Shaw could get injured.To this, I'd say see above to my response to 'didierforever', the issue is not "he could get injured" it's "he is injured, will he recover in a good way?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Can we please get back to talking about the player and not other members? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Well chaps,According to Atletico chief Angel Gil he has told Costa the club only sell him if he wants to leave. That to me means, Costa needs to put in a request. Let´s see what happens now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matterz 67 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Well chaps,According to Atletico chief Angel Gil he has told Costa the club only sell him if he wants to leave. That to me means, Costa needs to put in a request. Let´s see what happens now.It was always up to Costa anyway, he has a buy-out clause, we meet that and there is fuck all Angel Gil, Diego Simeone or anyone else at Atletico can do if Costa wants to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 It was always up to Costa anyway, he has a buy-out clause, we meet that and there is fuck all Angel Gil, Diego Simeone or anyone else at Atletico can do if Costa wants to leave.Are you sure you are reading it attentively?Let me try again. Gil does not want to sell him. Costa has to decide whether he wants to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matterz 67 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Are you sure you are reading it attentively?Let me try again. Gil does not want to sell him. Costa has to decide whether he wants to leave.Are you sure you are reading it attentively?Let me try again. It does not matter how Gil feels. He has a buy-out clause. We activate that and its up to Costa as to what he wants to do. That was always the case. Atletico don't really have a say in the matter so whether they don't want to sell or not its up to Gil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Are you sure you are reading it attentively?Let me try again. It does not matter how Gil feels. He has a buy-out clause. We activate that and its up to Costa as to what he wants to do. That was always the case. Atletico don't really have a say in the matter so whether they don't want to sell or not its up to Gil.OK, thanks for your bombastic posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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