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Why not? Hazard can play just off the striker as a second forward. I'd be shocked if we don't see the 3-5-2 a bunch this season. 
Less running around chasing opposition midfielders and attackers for Cesc means less fatigue and drain of his stamina. If a 36 year old Pirlo could play the role at an elite level I see no reason Cesc can't. They have the same skill set. Doesn't have to be every match, but I'd love to give it a go as our main formation.

Conte already said we didn't have the players to play 352 and adding only Baka doesn't change that. So unless we bring the strikers to make it work, no, we won't feature a lineup with this system one single time
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Just now, Barbara said:


Conte already said we didn't have the players to play 352 and adding only Baka doesn't change that. So unless we bring the strikers to make it work, no, we won't feature a lineup with this system one single time

I'm confident that our future business will allow us to experiment with it. 

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1 hour ago, Pizy said:

I'm confident that our future business will allow us to experiment with it. 

I think so too.  We played it a lot more in the second half of last season.  Cesc on for Pedro.  There were a few times when we were getting a bit overrun and had to get the 3rd midfielder on.

I expect to see it even more next year, as in from kick off sometimes.  

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6 hours ago, Pizy said:

To your first point, I'm not saying Cesc would just stand there like a cardboard cut-out when we don't have the ball. Of course he would still put in effort on the defensive end. He just won't have an enormous responsibility to chase people around like he would in a midfield 2. It won't be disastrous having him in the middle of the park against top teams if there's another pair of legs around him. 

Maybe but if he doesn't put in a proper shift in midfield, the top teams will likely still be smart enough to overload and overrun us in that area. Mourinho played Fabregas as the No.10 and ahead of two defensive midfielders on numerous occasions in the past and I don't recall us ever really bossing the opposition.

4 hours ago, Pizy said:

I'm confident that our future business will allow us to experiment with it. 

Should get the business done first before even thinking of experimenting with different formations.

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

Maybe but if he doesn't put in a proper shift in midfield, the top teams will likely still be smart enough to overload and overrun us in that area. Mourinho played Fabregas as the No.10 and ahead of two defensive midfielders on numerous occasions in the past and I don't recall us ever really bossing the opposition.

 

Cesc struggle to play as no 10 because he is not technically gifted enough to play in  the tight area. If I am not wrong Mou played him in front of matic and mikel. I always wonder what happen instead of two holders, we play one dynamic player ala Ramires.

Cesc - Rami

Matic

But we sold Rami to china for good money and he was injured for a while. Maybe Conte can try it next season with Baka instead of Rami.

I am on the side where Cesc should play all the time, when cesc does not play our offence is just hard to watch. Hazard need to work so hard to create everything. 

 

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6 hours ago, communicate said:

Cesc struggle to play as no 10 because he is not technically gifted enough to play in  the tight area. If I am not wrong Mou played him in front of matic and mikel. I always wonder what happen instead of two holders, we play one dynamic player ala Ramires.

Cesc - Rami

Matic

But we sold Rami to china for good money and he was injured for a while. Maybe Conte can try it next season with Baka instead of Rami.

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I am on the side where Cesc should play all the time, when cesc does not play our offence is just hard to watch. Hazard need to work so hard to create everything. 

 

This.

Whenever Cesc isn't on I know not to really expect anyone to create a chance..

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20 hours ago, Pizy said:

Why not? Hazard can play just off the striker as a second forward. I'd be shocked if we don't see the 3-5-2 a bunch this season. 

Less running around chasing opposition midfielders and attackers for Cesc means less fatigue and drain of his stamina. If a 36 year old Pirlo could play the role at an elite level I see no reason Cesc can't. They have the same skill set. Doesn't have to be every match, but I'd love to give it a go as our main formation.

Main reason for Hazard going up a level this season is the close link up's he has enjoyed with Alonso and Pedro, the 3-4-3 has allowed that to happen. Changing to 3-5-2 would take away that instantly. I just can't see it ever being our main formation while Eden's here.

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8 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Main reason for Hazard going up a level this season is the close link up's he has enjoyed with Alonso and Pedro, the 3-4-3 has allowed that top happen, changing to 3-5-2 would take away that instantly. I just can't see it ever being our main formation while Eden's here.

Fair point. I'm just not sure using the 3-4-3 every single match is going to be feasible now that everyone will be better prepared for it. 

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Main reason for Hazard going up a level this season is the close link up's he has enjoyed with Alonso and Pedro, the 3-4-3 has allowed that top happen, changing to 3-5-2 would take away that instantly. I just can't see it ever being our main formation while Eden's here.

Haven't thought about that. Yeah, you're right. As long as we have Eden we will not play 352
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31 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Fair point. I'm just not sure using the 3-4-3 every single match is going to be feasible now that everyone will be better prepared for it. 

There's one thing being better prepared and there's another thing actually countering it properly. Conte's Juve never really got found it, well not domestically anyway.

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10 hours ago, communicate said:

Cesc struggle to play as no 10 because he is not technically gifted enough to play in  the tight area.

Quite the contrary, actually. Cesc's technical ability is perfectly fine to play in tight spaces. However, he is slow, unmobile and lacks any sort of explosiveness ; thus rendering him unable to use his technic when he is in this kind of situation.

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