lito 180 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Cesc FÃ bregas likely to miss Manchester City game with hamstring injuryhttp://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/28/cesc-fabregas-manchester-city-injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmode 113 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Yep best player on paper and in majority of our games, just a shame most of those games are against lesser sides. Against tough teams(City away, Liverpool home and away CO Cup, away to them in the league, Spurs away) he has been really disappointing. He is not suited to high tempo games, that is why at Barca he was heavily criticized for it. Oscar and Willian will be playing no matter what, their work rate is irreplaceable in a game like this. Completely disagree with your assessment. First of all Barca doesn't play high tempo. They are slow as fuck. They have no counter attack, so to hear their criticism is laughable. Second, he is actually pretty good in high tempo to lay the correct pass during a counter attack. Third, he had a lot of good performances in big games this season including all CL games, Southampton, Newcastle, Arsenal etc etc He was actually pretty good in the first Man City game, staying back and putting in a tough performance. Fourth, he just put in a stellar performance against Swansea couple of weeks back. He would do fine Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 We could afford, to lose Costa, but both? We will back to our oldself form, I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 A passage? one of our best and important players, really? im not suggesting he should play in the pivot with Matic alone, we should play with Ramires and Cesc. Willian/Oscar should be droped.While Cesc gives alot of creativity in our game, in big games he is not even close to his best. And that is what worries me most. I told Barbara this once and probably more members, but while Cesc is great player, consistent (so far), he realy drops level while playing bigger teams. In such games, he doesnt dictate tempo, he doesnt keep the ball as good, while in defensive way, he is overrun by opponent waaay to easy and doesnt even track back. He aint fast, agile, mobile and thats very clear against big teams or even against teams with high pressing physical game. I wonder if he is able to dominate midfield like Modric, Iniesta etc do because it could be major problem if one of our key players cant rise their level and be instrumental in big games. And like I said, in PL it wont be that difficult, there are smallgames where he can perform excelent, while CL is another thing. I wait to see how he plays against Psg over two legs. If he will play like vs Pool, its going to be big dissapointment. Long term solution, either play him as #10, because in pivot we definately need more mobile and pacy player or we will continue to have problems in defensive shape. He is 27, years of experience and I fully expect him to stand out in at least two of three games vs city and psg (home and away). But I dont think he will perform anywhere close to his best games at chelsea. I hope Im wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 While Cesc gives alot of creativity in our game, in big games he is not even close to his best. And that is what worries me most. I told Barbara this once and probably more members, but while Cesc is great player, consistent (so far), he realy drops level while playing bigger teams. In such games, he doesnt dictate tempo, he doesnt keep the ball as good, while in defensive way, he is overrun by opponent waaay to easy and doesnt even track back. He aint fast, agile, mobile and thats very clear against big teams or even against teams with high pressing physical game. I wonder if he is able to dominate midfield like Modric, Iniesta etc do because it could be major problem if one of our key players cant rise their level and be instrumental in big games. And like I said, in PL it wont be that difficult, there are smallgames where he can perform excelent, while CL is another thing. I wait to see how he plays against Psg over two legs. If he will play like vs Pool, its going to be big dissapointment. Long term solution, either play him as #10, because in pivot we definately need more mobile and pacy player or we will continue to have problems in defensive shape. He is 27, years of experience and I fully expect him to stand out in at least two of three games vs city and psg (home and away). But I dont think he will perform anywhere close to his best games at chelsea. I hope Im wrong though.Against Arsenal at home he is brilliant though, unless people think they are not classified as big team, I could understand.What I realized though, he is usually perform better at home rather than away. Against City, if he is fit, I think he could perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Against Arsenal at home he is brilliant though, unless people think they are not classified as big team, I could understand.What I realized though, he is usually perform better at home rather than away. Against City, if he is fit, I think he could perform.Arsenal didnt put any kind of fight against us, it was easy game, they let us do the job... RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I love Cesc but Tuesday only reaffirmed the gut feeling I've had since the start of the season - in some games you have to play particular players whose styles are more adjusted to the type of opponent you're facing. Against a big and powerful side you need runners in the team, especially one like City that likes to have the full-backs press high up to offer their genuine width. If we want to stifle City as an attacking threat the best thing we can do is play Ramires over Fabregas. If we're chasing the game, fine, bring him on for his set-piece delivery and his eye for the pass. But when you need to counteract the offensive runs of Zabaleta and Clichy, and someone who isn't going to leave David Silva alone for a second, you need someone with an unbelievable engine and a turn of pace. Sound like a particular number 7 of ours? Chelsea Legend 11 and Shakez 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeleryFC 373 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 We survived without him last season. It's not the end of the world. Rather he had time to recover fully, than risk further injury anyway. I'm more bothered about Costa, but I want to see Remy in the central role over Drogba. dUMB, Chelsea Legend 11 and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Arsenal didnt put any kind of fight against us, it was easy game, they let us do the job...I think your memory has been failing you. Arsenal have played one of their best matches against us in recent years. They were pressing and marking like they never did before. It was a competitive match during the first half. then because they are arsenal they simply imploded after we scored the first or second goal (can't point exactly when the implosion happened). And Cesc was one of the best players in the pitch if not the very best. bababoom, Madmax, The Skipper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 He's missed me rooting for him all way from Brazil In all seriousness though, he has to be ready for Saturday, we need him, even more so as a #10... although without Yaya I'm not sure only Silva will be enough to cause our defensive midfield that much trouble. I mean Silva is quality, top player, but I think City miss a lot without Yaya. Either way, I'd rather play Rami in the pivot and have Cesc as #10 than have Cesc in the pivot.He's not played one decent game as a 10. Oscar should be in that position and rest Cesc... Play Ramires. dUMB and CFC888 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 We could afford, to lose Costa, but both? We will back to our oldself form, I'm afraid.We beat them twice last year as our old self Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 We beat them twice last year as our old selfbut we still have our 'lucky charm', Torres last season. Now I'm worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 29, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted January 29, 2015 but we still have our 'lucky charm', Torres last season. Now I'm worried.Torres didn't play at etihad. We'll be fine. Matic didn't play at the bridge last year either.City are a disjointed group without Yaya in the middle, Arsenal exposed that weakness using our blueprint. CFC888, Mission, CeleryFC and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I think your memory has been failing you. Arsenal have played one of their best matches against us in recent years. They were pressing and marking like they never did before. It was a competitive match during the first half. then because they are arsenal they simply imploded after we scored the first or second goal (can't point exactly when the implosion happened). And Cesc was one of the best players in the pitch if not the very best.Thank God some people are still able to remember around here. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I think your memory has been failing you. Arsenal have played one of their best matches against us in recent years. They were pressing and marking like they never did before. It was a competitive match during the first half. then because they are arsenal they simply imploded after we scored the first or second goal (can't point exactly when the implosion happened). And Cesc was one of the best players in the pitch if not the very best.They started brightly, but faded as we scored...its how arsenal play. They might have one of better games recently (after that loss 6:0 even more clearly), but the way they played was good all the way till first goal. Then we took our charge and Cesc bossed. But like I said, Arsenal I dont count as big game realy, they never know the way to play against us and always make it easy.As for Cesc, he played well that game, but not against City, United, Liverpool (3 times now). Being decent in those games is not my point. He doesnt stand out in big games as he does in small games. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 They started brightly, but faded as we scored...its how arsenal play. They might have one of better games recently (after that loss 6:0 even more clearly), but the way they played was good all the way till first goal. Then we took our charge and Cesc bossed. But like I said, Arsenal I dont count as big game realy, they never know the way to play against us and always make it easy.As for Cesc, he played well that game, but not against City, United, Liverpool (3 times now). Being decent in those games is not my point. He doesnt stand out in big games as he does in small games.Cesc was good vs City defensively. Not his fault that Jose respected City too much. Barbara and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Matic is not a surprise, but Fabregas in 4th. Very interesting. Muzchap, CFC888 and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Matic is not a surprise, but Fabregas in 4th. Very interesting.Wanyama doesn't surprise me either, I suggested to sign him as back-up to Matic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Wanyama doesn't surprise me either, I suggested to sign him as back-up to Matic.Fuck that Song over Wanyama every day of the week ending in a 'y' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Wanyama doesn't surprise me either, I suggested to sign him as back-up to Matic.Trade him for Mikel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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