Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 The ref and the decisions where a very big talking point, but closer to home was our finishing, it was poor and not acceptable. xPetrCechx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 People confusing officiating with a poor game. Just cause we had a poor game infront of goal doesn't mean officiating needs to be done by someone who's suffering with autism. Guaranteed we made things worse for ourselves but that does NOT justify the pathetic state of refereeing.Agreed. But officiating is not something we have to worry about. Our poor finishing and the fact that our attacking system is still not working after a whole season is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolovrat 20 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 31 shots. 1 goal. That's the ref's fault as well?Yeah, the ref was terrible, but blaming him is just making excuses and trying to cover up our embarrassing lack of quality in the final third. Even with 31 misses <repost> the score would be 3:1 (or 2:1 if penalty missed) plus 11 against 10. </repost> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Agreed. But officiating is not something we have to worry about. Our poor finishing and the fact that our attacking system is still not working after a whole season is. I explained that to the other guy. It was bound to be expected with the strike force we have. We brought in a stop gap with Eto'o and it's bloody remarkable how decent that worked out.but I disagree with the first part. If things are going blatantly against you, then it's something to worry about. It's hard enough already with us screwing up chances, but they make it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 A combination of both, Chelsea's shitty scoring & the refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I was talking about the Matic and Terry incident. hence why I didn't say 3-1.Not really considering our defense is one of the best at home when it comes to tight situations such as this.50% - 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Even with 31 misses <repost> the score would be 3:1 (or 2:1 if penalty missed) plus 11 against 10. </repost>On the other hand, even with the ref making all those mistakes, the score would have been 4 or 5-2 if our decision making in the final third was anything close to decent. So you have a choice on who to blame the loss on: The ref and the officiating and cry about conspiracies or our own players and their deficiencies and try to improve on that?I explained that to the other guy. It was bound to be expected with the strike force we have. We brought in a stop gap with Eto'o and it's bloody remarkable how decent that worked out.but I disagree with the first part. If things are going blatantly against you, then it's something to worry about. It's hard enough already with us screwing up chances, but they make it worse.My expectations of our strikers are very low and I don't really worry about any of them since I know they will either be gone or a squad player next season. My worry is about our AMs who are yet to make our attacking system work. We either have to rely on set pieces, a moment of individual brilliance, or the other team being in transition. Unfortunately, we have failed to create a working attacking system, or at least glimpses of one, this season.Second part, same answer as above. The game is gone and dusted so I don't look at the ref. I look at our own problems because that is what will be a worry in the future. xPetrCechx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Unfortunately, we have failed to create a working attacking system, or at least glimpses of one, this season.The lack of width/offensive threat from the fullbacks, and the lack of a true ball-playing CM (exacerbated by Ramires' dire passing abilities) are two of the biggest reasons for that in my opinion. I doubt either issue will be remedied next season though sadly, mostly due to Mourinho's preferences and tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/other-sport/corinthian-jake-collin-journey-city-3382790 Yesterdays linesman that disallowed our goal and gave the penalty to Sunderland ...used to play for Liverpool. You couldnt make it up..... kolovrat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Match fixing Italy style. kolovrat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Match fixing Italy style.Its not just match fixing, its fucking season fixing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/other-sport/corinthian-jake-collin-journey-city-3382790Yesterdays linesman that disallowed our goal and gave the penalty to Sunderland ...used to play for Liverpool.You couldnt make it up..... Anything is possible with the Scum ,,, WHO are above the law ,,, Never ever mention The H word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,145 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Some decisions did not go our way in the match and same with Sunderland but this is going OTT with this conspiracy stuff for Liverpool to win the league. Remember when we played Liverpool at the Bridge earlier in the season. Eto'o should have been sent off. One for a studs up challenge on Henderson IIRC and made a blatant foul on Suarez in the penalty box which Webb ignored. We were very lucky as Eto'o made 2 clumsy challenges which he got away with.When we drew with WBA earlier this season it was a clear dive from Ramires to win get the penalty. Had that not of been given we would have lost 2-1 at home. The ref saved our ass that game. Had their really been an agenda for Liverpool to win the league, the ref would not have sent off Chico for his challenge last week but he didDecisions that don't go our way happens but decisions that go our way which have been fortunate have also happened. It is 50/50 really.We only have ourselves to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 We only have ourselves to blame.And bad officiating or do we just forget that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stats 7,145 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 And bad officiating or do we just forget that?That is not the reason we lost. Did you not forget Ramires should have been sent off. That was the most obvious call he could have made but he did not. Blaming the ref is just not accepting responsibilites for our loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Some decisions did not go our way in the match and same with Sunderland but this is going OTT with this conspiracy stuff for Liverpool to win the league. Remember when we played Liverpool at the Bridge earlier in the season. Eto'o should have been sent off. One for a studs up challenge on Henderson IIRC and made a blatant foul on Suarez in the penalty box which Webb ignored. We were very lucky as Eto'o made 2 clumsy challenges which he got away with.When we drew with WBA earlier this season it was a clear dive from Ramires to win get the penalty. Had that not of been given we would have lost 2-1 at home. The ref saved our ass that game. Had their really been an agenda for Liverpool to win the league, the ref would not have sent off Chico for his challenge last week but he didDecisions that don't go our way happens but decisions that go our way which have been fortunate have also happened. It is 50/50 really.We only have ourselves to blame.If you think it has been 50 /50 no point in discussing with you GodZola and xPetrCechx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 That is not the reason we lost. Did you not forget Ramires should have been sent off. That was the most obvious call he could have made but he did not. Blaming the ref is just not accepting responsibilites for our loss.That is not the reason we lost. Did you not forget Ramires should have been sent off. That was the most obvious call he could have made but he did not. Blaming the ref is just not accepting responsibilites for our loss.Have you read back my posts on this subject? If you are going to start pointing the finger on a forum then read up please. zolayes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,145 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If you think it has been 50 /50 no point in discussing with you Have you read back my posts on this subject? If you are going to start pointing the finger on a forum then read up please.I have given my explanations in the previous posts. I am not disagreeing that we have had decisions against us for sure but there have been games where the ref has let us off the hook. Ultimately our team has not been good enough to win these type of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 That is not the reason we lost. Did you not forget Ramires should have been sent off. That was the most obvious call he could have made but he did not. Blaming the ref is just not accepting responsibilites for our loss.Some say STATS dont lie ,,, but we know much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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