Ricardo Rodriguez

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

#Wolfsburg left back Ricardo Rodriguez is a player Chelsea have looked at and could be available for around £17m, (Telegraph) #CFC

[Ayioros 76]

4 hours ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

now I know you don't really believe that. We've seen it with our own club millions of times. First choice players get the lion share of work and the back up gets maybe 5-10 games, is that enough for a young player to kick on and improve?

If Aina play 10 games in the XI start and has several replacement in the season, i think it's enough to improve. 

Don't forget he will be trained by Conte, and alongside talented players, so he will learn a lot, matchs are not the only way to improve.

And like i said, the kid can play on the both side. So he could easily benefit of an injury/suspension/ form decrease from first choice players.

You really want start season with Aina on the right with no real guaranteed and with just Ivanovic in backup ? For me that's madness. 

Don't forget we absolutely must finish top 4, and can't afford to miss UCL a second time in row. In this case, for me, there is no place for undecided choices.
Rodriguez is top class player on the left, we must do anything to sign him.

If Aina confirms his potential he could be a first choice soon, no doubt.

 

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

57 minutes ago, Ayioros said:

If Aina has 10 games in the XI start and several replacement in the season, i think it's enough to improve. 

Don't forget he will be trained by Conte, and alongside talented players, so he will learn a lot, matchs are not the only way to improve.

And like i said, the kid can play on the both side. So he could easily benefit of an injury/suspension/ form decrease from our first choice.

You really want start season with Aina on the right with no real guaranteed and with just Ivanovic in backup ? For me that's madness. 

Don't forget we absolutely must finish top 4, and can't afford to miss UCL a second time in row. In this case, for me, there is no place for undecided choice.
Rodriguez is top class player on the left, we must do anything to sign him.

 

first of all no manager will ever rotate his back 4 as much as you're suggesting here. At most, Aina gets about 5-10 appearances and that's based on who we play in cups and of course injuries. Filipe Luis made 9 appearances for Chelsea, I don't expect Aina to get anywhere near that.

Players don't improve all that much on the training pitch, all young talents need actual minutes in real game situations to improve, that's the whole point of loaning them out to gain experience.

Again I never once said anything about what I want vs. what will likely happen, I simply wanted to know if the same people who are banging on about the youth policy are the same people who want Rodriguez.

 

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

[Steagles 70]

Rodriguez at £17 is a steal in my opinion. I hope we get this done. 

[Fernando 6,589]

If he was available for this price all this time the fact that he will be bought at the end does not sounds good.

Like the option that no one wanted. Does not sounds good to me.

[Super-Mario 74]

1 hour ago, xPetrCechx said:

Fake  Show me the Bild article Who says this

[AK-3001 286]

2 hours ago, Fernando said:

If he was available for this price all this time the fact that he will be bought at the end does not sounds good.

Like the option that no one wanted. Does not sounds good to me.

Have you ever seen him play?

[zekinjo 449]

By reports his price between € 17-22m ..  Many things doesn't fit right at all in this one. Sources keep saying he's waiting for top 3 clubs. Real Madrid have Marcelo and just brought back Coentrao, Bayern have Alaba and Bernat with Lham, Barselona Alba and Digne... So won't happen. It's strange only unreliable sources from time to time connecting him with Chelsea, Arsenal, United.... If he's that good with price of 17-22m, 10 clubs would go into a public bidding war for him. Plus, his release clause of 20m expired this summer so basically was an easy target for any club.

[Unionjack 7,531]

Once you get your defenders sorted out that you want the more they play together the more they gel and read each other.

Well thats the normal rule eh! But you look at JT/Cahill/Bane and you would think they had only just met - or hated each other and want to fuck each other up!

[AK-3001 286]

9 minutes ago, zekinjo said:

By reports his price between € 17-22m ..  Many things doesn't fit right at all in this one. Sources keep saying he's waiting for top 3 clubs. Real Madrid have Marcelo and just brought back Coentrao, Bayern have Alaba and Bernat with Lham, Barselona Alba and Digne... So won't happen. It's strange only unreliable sources from time to time connecting him with Chelsea, Arsenal, United.... If he's that good with price of 17-22m, 10 clubs would go into a public bidding war for him. Plus, his release clause of 20m expired this summer so basically was an easy target for any club.

Have you ever seen him play?

[zekinjo 449]

15 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Once you get your defenders sorted out that you want the more they play together the more they gel and read each other.

Well thats the normal rule eh! But you look at JT/Cahill/Bane and you would think they had only just met - or hated each other and want to fuck each other up!

Unstable club politics. Every manager brings something different. Our defense is finished. That's why we're trying to bring top defender for 3 years. Unfortunately right now we don't need only 1, if we're going to push for the titles in PL and CL we need more than just CB or FB..

[Unionjack 7,531]

1 minute ago, zekinjo said:

Unstable clubs politics. Every manager brings something different. Our defense is finished. That's why we're trying to bring top defender for 3 years. Unfortunately right now we don't need only 1, if we're going to push for the titles in PL and CL we need more than just CB or FB..

Oh I totally agree. We need 2 CBs and a LB. Thats even hopefully IF Happy comes back strong and fit. But at least with 1 CB we can get by with the old chaps for back ups.

Then we really have top get the scouts earming their wedge. Maybe having a looksee at Jan sales to see whats occuring. Then come next saeason we got the loanees we can either thro on or buy a more complete player and use him as backup. Choices to be made.

[zekinjo 449]

14 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Oh I totally agree. We need 2 CBs and a LB. Thats even hopefully IF Happy comes back strong and fit. But at least with 1 CB we can get by with the old chaps for back ups.

Then we really have top get the scouts earming their wedge. Maybe having a looksee at Jan sales to see whats occuring. Then come next saeason we got the loanees we can either thro on or buy a more complete player and use him as backup. Choices to be made.

Some reports from Napoli said how Conte and Ghoulam Faouzi are talking. His contract expires next year so he can strike a deal in January. CB is a must have. Not some second or fifth option but top class player. Doesn't care if he's celebrity or unknown, just pull that rabbit out of the hat..

[Gilvorak 3,734]

5 hours ago, Fernando said:

If he was available for this price all this time the fact that he will be bought at the end does not sounds good.

Like the option that no one wanted. Does not sounds good to me.

It's because he can't defend and he isn't as good going forward as everyone thinks. His stats are heavily inflated because he's a very good set piece taker.

[AK-3001 286]

2 hours ago, Gilvorak said:

It's because he can't defend and he isn't as good going forward as everyone thinks. His stats are heavily inflated because he's a very good set piece taker.

I am interested in knowing how you have come up with 'He can't defend' comment here. 

[Gilvorak 3,734]

1 minute ago, AK-3001 said:

I am interested in knowing how you have come up with 'He can't defend' comment here. 

Because I watched a lot of him when De Bruyne was a Wolfsburg player and also with Switzerland. He's a horrific defender and is slow as fuck. That's why no big club is interested.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

2 hours ago, AK-3001 said:

I am interested in knowing how you have come up with 'He can't defend' comment here. 

He's not the greatest defender and isn't exactly the quickest either.

He's a huge upgrade to what we have though

[BlueLyon 9,359]

3 hours ago, Gilvorak said:

Because I watched a lot of him when De Bruyne was a Wolfsburg player and also with Switzerland. He's a horrific defender and is slow as fuck. That's why no big club is interested.

I agree. He is not horrible, but not great either. But he is fullback and as long he has advantages, thats fine.

However what bothers me is his pace. For PL, he is nowhere near fast enough. Azpi is not fast either, but very good defender. Take that out and every speedy winger would get past him. 

All that put together, he is still miles better than Iva, but even then wouldnt offer aerial threat. 

If we actualy have that much money, and considering we desperately need fullback, just go for Fabinho. French league players always worked for us and he is all you need. Quick, skilled, quite strong, can even play CM and whenever I saw him, he was one of the most visible players on pitch, trying to do things. He however holds on the ball little too much. 

I would rather make 30m bid for him than RR.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

2 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

 

If we actualy have that much money, and considering we desperately need fullback, just go for Fabinho. French league players always worked for us and he is all you need. Quick, skilled, quite strong, can even play CM and whenever I saw him, he was one of the most visible players on pitch, trying to do things. He however holds on the ball little too much. 

I would rather make 30m bid for him than RR.

Agree with the points raised about RR. Im not that big on him either defensively. 

But why not target another LB. i know there are not many others that jump to mind other than RR, but i put trust in the club's scouting/Conte's team to identify one that can be a solid starter for this team. 

I mean even Conte seems to hate the inconvienance of a right footed left back playing behind Hazard. During the West Ham or Watford match, (can't remember which one) someone even pointed out that Conte at times wasn't happy with how long it took for Azpi to get the ball to Hazard. So much so that against Watford in 2nd half, he had hazard playing on the RW to make that transition easier. 

I know a lot of people rate Fabinho, but that still means Azpi at LB. Im so sick and tired of this inverted fullback nonsense. And most importantly because it's not like we have Guardiola on the sideline doing this for some highly intricate possesion based play. We're simply doing this because we have no one to play LB, so Ivan must continue to start.

That must end by the time this transfer window shuts. 

/rant.