Manuf 1,448 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 What the hell does Cech have to do with Mata?It's not like Mata is untouchable...as long as we find quality replacements.read the question I asked before that sentence about Cech and "wtf?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Jose press conference would be very interesting.Why the hell do we need Willian now, dont we already have enough quality in the midfield? Or is this a sign of things to come, with the entire Mata-Rooney swoop?Chelsea, please dont give us a shocker like last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Willian is a dribbler, only hazard and moses do that for us, but moses not as much as willian though. That astonvilla game was a perfect example of a match needing a moment of magic from somewhere and hazard didn't do it enough, so adding another xfactor on the opposite flank to take some pressure of hazard won't be a bad idea.You guys are underestimating willian, I rather us get him than tottenham have him. He would make their squad good, look: Soldado. Willian - lamela - lennon. Paulinho - dembele. (Sandro, sirgudson,defoe, chadli). VSLukakuHazard- mata/oscar - KDB/mataRamires - MVG/lamps(oscar, schurle, Ba, lamps)Tell me when you see that, your not worried.We aint selling mata to manutd guys, we aint stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Ok so i was wrong lol. I kinda saw this happening, but if we give Mata to Man Utd, i will be sick to my stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Willian is a dribbler, only hazard and moses do that for us, but moses not as much as willian though. That astonvilla game was a perfect example of a match needing a moment of magic from somewhere and hazard didn't do it enough, so adding another xfactor on the opposite flank to take some pressure of hazard won't be a bad idea.You guys are underestimating willian, I rather us get him than tottenham have him. He would make their squad good, look:Soldado.Willian - lamela - lennon.Paulinho - dembele.(Sandro, sirgudson,defoe, chadli).VSLukakuHazard- mata - KDBRamires - MVG(oscar, schurle, Ba, lamps)Tell me when you see that, your not worried.We aint selling mata to manutd guys, we aint stupid.Even though I agree with your point...Oscar should be in our strongest starting lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 We need to be the best. The best would be for us to have everyone. Mata - Willian - HazardRooneyJob done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 We need to be the best. The best would be for us to have everyone. Mata - Willian - HazardRooneyJob done. Willian ahead of Oscar, De Bruyne! Seriously ... Mite as well send De Bruyne on loan in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 We need to be the best. The best would be for us to have everyone. Mata - Willian - HazardRooneyJob done. Isn't Willian supposed to be a winger 'primarily'?, Oscar is clearly going to be our CAM.It's been long established that Mata shouldn't be playing on the wings, he doesn't have the pace and won't track back etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Isn't Willian supposed to be a winger 'primarily'?, Oscar is clearly going to be our CAM.It's been long established that Mata shouldn't be playing on the wings, he doesn't have the pace and won't track back etc etc.Agreed and with Jose coming and said Mata WILL PLAY ON RW, I think they might not get on well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I always thought Willian was a number 10 but if he is a winger, swap him and Mata around and it's even stronger. That front 4 would be superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I always thought Willian was a number 10 but if he is a winger, swap him and Mata around and it's even stronger. That front 4 would be superb. Naaa he is a winger who can play any where behind the ST and in front of the CDM. He is also very fast, much faster than Mata so he suits Jose's counter attacking style more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Well, that's even better then. Hopefully he'll stop playing Oscar and (If he keeps) Mata out wide and we'll be a lot more dangerous instead of being rather predictable at times. If he is a genuine winger, i am 100% for this to happen. Still be gutted if Mata left though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Even though I agree with your point...Oscar should be in our strongest starting lineup. True. Especially as mourinho likes compactness in the middle and wants a left footed person on the RW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I was and still am a big fan of Mata, but the more I think about it.. the more it's based on sentiment for the previous seasons, in which he was all we had. Literally, the only player who could dictate play and the guy we'd all look to..Now we have options, Mata isn't a big fish in a small pond anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 29*can't believe in majority of you guys, ffs. you want to give your team's best player of the last 2 years for a man who is injury prone and not proven in our team? who are we? Arsenal?you want to drop Mata, the best attacking player, because he doesn't defend well? wtf? let's get rid of Cech because he doesn't score plenty... Mata is only 25 and has yet to play under great manager. do you remember where Drogba was when he was 25? or what he did in his first two seasons? Another point in discussion - Mata's pace. Do you know these two guys called Terry and Lampard?Exactly what I have been saying Mata deserves a pay rise more than the doubt some of us are starting to have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Well, that's even better then. Hopefully he'll stop playing Oscar and (If he keeps) Mata out wide and we'll be a lot more dangerous instead of being rather predictable at times. If he is a genuine winger, i am 100% for this to happen. Still be gutted if Mata left though. Willian is the type of player that can easily take on 2-3 defenders create something out of nothing like hazard. We need more of that, example from top teams in europe.Bayern - robben, ribbery, gotzeBarca - messi, sanchez, neymarMadrid - ronaldo, isco, dimariaChelsea - hazard........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I was and still am a big fan of Mata, but the more I think about it.. the more it's based on sentiment for the previous seasons, in which he was all we had. Literally, the only player who could dictate play and the guy we'd all look to..Now we have options, Mata isn't a big fish in a small pond anymore.Same situation with Essien after 2009, Drogba after 2010, Malouda after 2010...etc obviously no fan would want the best player previous season to leave but also forgot we have to think about long term and greater goods as well. Look at Spurs, obviously none of them want to sell Bale but if they sell him now, they could get Lamela, Wilian(before we jumped in) and the left over enough to buy Soldado+Capoune.So that is 4 quality players for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Same situation with Essien after 2009, Drogba after 2010, Malouda after 2010...etc obviously no fan would want the best player previous season to leave but also forgot we have to think about long term and greater goods as well. Look at Spurs, obviously none of them want to sell Bale but if they sell him now, they could get Lamela, Wilian(before we jumped in) and the left over enough to buy Soldado+Capoune.So that is 4 quality players for one. And they already have paulinho. Remember when mourinho was first in chelsea, we had 3 dribblers - robben, duff, joe cole(in his prime)He always likes fast paced dribblers for his system to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Williams 166 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 We need to be the best. The best would be for us to have everyone. Mata - Willian - HazardRooneyJob done. Would rather Oscar or de Bruyne play there, even if Willian was free (which he is far from). Think of the CM we could buy for close to 40 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borriske 330 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Is it just me or has it been a really crazy transfer window in general with all the rooney/bale/mata/suarez/fabregas/ronaldo/benteke/willian/luiz transfer soaps? And apart from bale apparently very lttle has come from all these rumours (so far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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