Marco van Ginkel

[robsblubot 3,595]

disagree with the reasons above as I hardly think Mikel is a chelsea or any remotely top club player. However, the problem isn't so much quality, but characteristics. Ginkel looks like a player who does better a bit up in the field, unless he's been doing what asked and can play a more defensive role, in which case then he should def replace mikel.

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

47 minutes ago, Robguima said:

disagree with the reasons above as I hardly think Mikel is a chelsea or any remotely top club player. However, the problem isn't so much quality, but characteristics. Ginkel looks like a player who does better a bit up in the field, unless he's been doing what asked and can play a more defensive role, in which case then he should def replace mikel.

If we wanted someone that could play the defensive backup role in midfield, we should have kept Romeu. 

Van Ginkel has quality but he wouldn't be able to cover for Cesc defensively. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

2 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

If we wanted someone that could play the defensive backup role in midfield, we should have kept Romeu. 

Van Ginkel has quality but he wouldn't be able to cover for Cesc defensively. 

agreed, but we don't do that and haven't had adequate cover forever. The top clubs have no mikels in their rosters: only we, liverpool, and united do.

Matic had a poor season, did mikel provide adequate cover? How did we play? Hazard was subpar, so who stepped up? My point is that if we say we are ok with mikel coming on, and often like last season, then anything goes: ginkel and others could do such a role.

I'd prefer we had 2 similar players for every position (or at least cover) but that's not how the club is run.

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

7 hours ago, Robguima said:

agreed, but we don't do that and haven't had adequate cover forever. The top clubs have no mikels in their rosters: only we, liverpool, and united do.

Matic had a poor season, did mikel provide adequate cover? How did we play? Hazard was subpar, so who stepped up? My point is that if we say we are ok with mikel coming on, and often like last season, then anything goes: ginkel and others could do such a role.

I'd prefer we had 2 similar players for every position (or at least cover) but that's not how the club is run.

We used to have cover for defence, midfield and attack (Ferreira could play RB/LB, Ramires was like a jack-of-all-trades midfielder & Kalou played his part as the backup winger/striker) until 2012/2013.

I feel the club was a bit short-sighted with the return of Mourinho.  Most of our potential squad depth was sold off to win one title in 3 seasons and now we're back to square one with another new manager. 

 

[mccg 1,528]

Hasn't travelled with 30 man squad to USA..probly means he is offski no loan ffs

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Problems?!

[Unionjack 7,531]

On 10/07/2016 at 11:18 AM, Reddish-Blue said:

We used to have cover for defence, midfield and attack (Ferreira could play RB/LB, Ramires was like a jack-of-all-trades midfielder & Kalou played his part as the backup winger/striker) until 2012/2013.

I feel the club was a bit short-sighted with the return of Mourinho.  Most of our potential squad depth was sold off to win one title in 3 seasons and now we're back to square one with another new manager. 

 

I'm not a big lover of utility players.

I'd much rather have a player that has trained al his life for one position and he knows just what he is.

[Special Juan 28,095]

Basically he's fucked.

[mccg 1,528]

On 08/09/2016 at 8:04 PM, Special Juan said:

Basically he's fucked.

Is that a new diagnosis lol , it would be refreshing if every doctor was that blunt n basic. No luck that dude,just hope n pray Zouma dosn't have his karma or we will be even more cfcucked!

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Feel sorry for the guy, injuries that prevent such moves must be heartbreaking for players. Hope he gets another opportunity.

[the wes 7,212]

Van ginkel seem to be unsure if he's going back to PSV on loan 

http://www.football-oranje.com/van-ginkel-unsure-psv-loan-return/

 

[Cripen 110]

Scored vs Soton U23.

Shame he's so injury prone, he's good player. He had very good time in PSV last season and I think he could be very good option for our team even as a squad player, but given his injuries history he maybe wont play single game for Chelsea first team ever again.

[mccg 1,528]

Suppose if we don't sell him in the January sales and we don't get anyone in , might as well hang around for the 2nd half of the season for back up ?

[blueblood22 50]

oscar out van ginkel in

[BoyBlue96 990]

Has rejoined PSV it seems.

And has extended till 2019