Footballers are people too!

[Santiago. 1,500]

It's just football, if and i mean if he had depression or still has i for one will have sympathy.

Footballers don't know how fucking lucky they really are. BlueArmy has it right. Weak Character. What they claim to have depression is not even remotely close to the millions truly suffering in the world, Starvation, holocaust, dictatorship, poverty, etc

[Korea 734]

'At times I didn't care whether we won or lost.' That to me should have been a prime indicator to put him on the next flight out of here. Players lose their attributes over time, whether it is pace, vision, finishing ability, or plain tactical awareness. What makes players, top Players, is even when they have those attributes diminished, they work on other areas that can improve their overall game. Torres, made ZERO effort to improve in any area and has easily gotten worse as each game passes. It's unbelievable. Considering on the amount of money we are paying him every week and the fact he is representing us as European Champions, he gives us this? As I stated, Literally, "LEECHING' from this club.

He is a weak character and contains a weak mentality unlike the players I mentioned previously. He cannot benefit this club anymore, If he ever has, nor himself and as I stated in order to save what ever is left of his career, needs to go.

One of the sole reasons. Roman and few members of the board easily take the cake on this.

Hypocracy on this matter? In what ways?

That I praised Lampard and Drogba that even though at times they were shit, they worked on other areas of their game and contributed highly to this club with great recognition whereas Torres offered us absolutely fuck all?

Actually, Torres changed his game to suit the Chelsea style of a CF. Torres might not excel, or even be decent in those areas, however, he definitely try to improve in them.....

Lampard never improved. I don't get how you can say he improved. He was always the same player. Lampard to me is a striker that starts off in the midfield. It cool, when you have Essien, Claude, and Ballack to cover for you and the license to go forward all the time.

Also, If he did adapt, England and Chelsea would have been much different now...

[Backstreet09 499]

Yet our own midfield and defense scored the majority of our goals when it isn't their job now is it? they are to supply the goals to our 50mill man who I believe David Luiz could do a better shift than him as striker.

Isn't that the real problem? Our so called creative midfield, focuses more on scoring themself, when they clearly were bought to support our striker. Have you ever seen Mata play ? He might be a worldclass player but he's not a MESSI. He's whole playing mentalilty is ridiculously awful. He's equally selfish than Robben and even though, he's having a wonderful season so far, but what it worth is, Fernando Torres has to play on the right, be more of a supportive striker and lads like you still expects him to score, when clearly no one bothers to pass him a SHIZNIT.

I don't care, if Atletico buys him or some rich arabic Club, but you'd defo see a much better and newfangled TORRES and would then, maybe realise that he wasn't the only one to blame -__-

EDITED : comparing mata with robben was hells wrong but that doesn't change anything

Edited March 26, 2013 by Backstreet09

[Santiago. 1,500]

Actually, Torres changed his game to suit the Chelsea style of a CF. Torres might not excel, or even be decent in those areas, however, he definitely try to improve in them.....

Lampard never improved. I don't get how you can say he improved. He was always the same player. Lampard to me is a striker that starts off in the midfield. It cool, when you have Essien, Claude, and Ballack to cover for you and the license to go forward all the time.

Also, If he did adapt, England and Chelsea would have been much different now..

Did changing his game style cause him to miss that open net against United or the other countless poor attempts and touches and overall game play? Was it our slow build up play that made him shoot over the bar left and right as well as fucking up every counter attack?

Lampard lost his vision as well as his defensive reliance over the years. He did however, step up on the biggest occasions, last year in particular, and brought his absolute A game in playing in a position not even remotely close comfortable for him against Barca, Liverpool, Napoli, and Bayern.

[Korea 734]

Isn't that the real problem? Our so called creative midfield, focuses more on scoring themself, when they clearly were bought to support our striker. Have you ever seen Mata play ? He might be a worldclass player but he's not a MESSI. It's whole playing mentalilty is ridiculously awful. He's equally selfish than Robben and even though, he's having a wonderful season so far, but what it worth is, Fernando Torres has to play on the ring, be more of a supportive striker and lads like you still expects him to score, when clearly no one bothers to pass him a SHIZNIT.

I don't care, if Atletico buys him or some rich arabic Club, but you'd defo see a much better and newfangled TORRES and would then, maybe realise that he wasn't the only one to blame -__-

Mata may not look to pass first, but ROBBEN is a whole another level of selfishness. LOL

But I get what your saying....

[Santiago. 1,500]

Isn't that the real problem? Our so called creative midfield, focuses more on scoring themself, when they clearly were bought to support our striker. Have you ever seen Mata play ? He might be a worldclass player but he's not a MESSI. It's whole playing mentalilty is ridiculously awful. He's equally selfish than Robben and even though, he's having a wonderful season so far, but what it worth is, Fernando Torres has to play on the ring, be more of a supportive striker and lads like you still expects him to score, when clearly no one bothers to pass him a SHIZNIT.

I don't care, if Atletico buys him or some rich arabic Club, but you'd defo see a much better and newfangled TORRES and would then, maybe realise that he wasn't the only one to blame -__-

Literally cringed when you said Mata is equally selfish as Robben. Get a fucking clue

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Sometime, I laugh at people defending Torres because of this and because of that, buy a brain to yourself, yours is not working anymore.I also had a laugh when you compared Mata to Robben, a big one.If you want, I can illuminate you with my great knowledge about how Nando is shit, but i dont want to lose my precious time if you dont even consider my future contribution.

[Stingray 9,441]

Footballers don't know how fucking lucky they really are. BlueArmy has it right. Weak Character. What they claim to have depression is not even remotely close to the millions truly suffering in the world, Starvation, holocaust, dictatorship, poverty, etc

Congratulations. Your bitterness does ooze throughout every post you make about the overpaid footballers. Be it Torres, Hazard, every one you feel earns too much (or more than you perhaps? Google 'social comparison theory' for some more info.... )

Does this mean I myself don't care about the hardships of the true unfortunates in ths world? Hell no, I believe it is our duty to actively contribute, which I do in every way I can. I just don't bitch about it on a forum. I do it in acts.

To me, your hardliner way of posting says a lot more about your person than you can think. I have no hard feelings towards you whatsoever, but you seem to lack empathy. I am sorry.

[Santiago. 1,500]

Could never defend a man who has represented the Chelsea Badge and makes statements that he didn't care whether how the club I love progresses. Representing the fucking shirt.

Worse than fucking Rooney questioning the manchester united's future. ambitions

[Backstreet09 499]

Literally cringed when you said Mata is equally selfish as Robben. Get a fucking clue

Had the same feeling, when you totally turned the world upside down, and alleged Torres solely for our awfully terrible performances.

I'd bet Torres is the one to blame of the Mikel back and sideway passes, he's the one to blame of Ramires awfully shit runs, he's the one to blame when we lost 3-0 against Juve, he's the one to blame when we let Falcao destroyed our defense, he's the one to blame when Ivanovic gifted the two goals to Swansea in our all important cup game, he's the one to blame when we lost to shit Corinthians, he's the one to blame when our crosses are so awfully terible that they don't even reach our players in the box, he's the one to blame even for fucking 9/11. HE'S THE ONE TO BLAME FOR FUCKING EVERTHING, RIGHT?

[Santiago. 1,500]

Congratulations. Your bitterness does ooze throughout every post you make about the overpaid footballers. Be it Torres, Hazard, every one you feel earns too much (or more than you perhaps? Google 'social comparison theory' for some more info.... )

Does this mean I myself don't care about the hardships of the true unfortunates in ths world? Hell no, I believe it is our duty to actively contribute, which I do in every way I can. I just don't bitch about it on a forum. I do it in acts.

To me, your hardliner way of posting says a lot more about your person than you can think. I have no hard feelings towards you whatsoever, but you seem to lack empathy. I am sorry.

Now in what ways does this have any relevance whatsoever towards my argument ?

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Had the same feeling, when you totally turned the world upside down, and alleged Torres solely for our awfully terrible performances.

I'd bet Torres is the one to blame of the Mikel back and sideway passes, he's the one to blame of Ramires awfully shit runs, he's the one to blame when we lost 3-0 against Juve, he's the one to blame when we let Falcao destroyed our defense, he's the one to blame when Ivanovic gifted the two goals to Swansea in our all important cup game, he's the one to blame when we lost to shit Corinthians, he's the one to blame when our crosses are so awfully terible that they don't even reach our players in the box, he's the one to blame even for fucking 9/11. HE'S THE ONE TO BLAME FOR FUCKING EVERTHING, RIGHT?

Torres didnt play against Juve, only few minutes.

About our current season, I think he is responsible for the Club Word Cup loss, United loss, and some others.He also signed in 2011, since that January he is shit until now.

[Stingray 9,441]

Now in what relevance does that have to my argument ?

Nothing. It is meant as a general comment to the common denominator of your posts. That is my prerogative on this forum as it is yours to bitch

[Korea 734]

Did changing his game style cause him to miss that open net against United or the other countless poor attempts and touches and overall game play? Was it our slow build up play that made him shoot over the bar left and right as well as fucking up every counter attack?

Lampard lost his vision as well as his defensive reliance over the years. He did however, step up on the biggest occasions, last year in particular, and brought his absolute A game in playing in a position not even remotely close comfortable for him against Barca, Liverpool, Napoli, and Bayern.

Ask English fans, where Lampard was for his country? Not Chelsea homers...

I'm surprised a Spaniard considers Lampard to have "vision," when in reality Chelsea was a long ball team for much of his time, with the rest of the teams in England (cept Arsenal and Man City now and hopefully with the three amigos now). Also, what exactly did Lamps do in the Champs League?

Also, missing an open net has nothing to do with not trying to improve in areas he needed improvement with...

[Rmpr 8,977]

Wow, this has turned into quite a debate...

Some showing off their true personality, interesting!

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Wow, this has turned into quite a debate...

Some showing off their true personality, interesting!

Are you interested in people's personality here ?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Wow, this has turned into quite a debate...

Some showing off their true personality, interesting!

It's not about personality, but rather ignorance. Seems very few people in this thread understand what depression is.

[Backstreet09 499]

Torres didnt play against Juve, only few minutes.

About our current season, I think he is responsible for the Club Word Cup loss, United loss, and some others.He also signed in 2011, since that January he is shit until now.

He might be responsible for our loss against Corinthians, cause he had the chance to equalise in the dying minutes but again they won that game by a cheap,cheekishly shit goal we conceded. United's loss? Omg are you even in your senses ? .

I agree he has underperformed and failed to live the expectations, but he's not the SOLE reason for our disgraceful performances.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

It's not about personality, but rather ignorance. Seems very few people in this thread understand what depression is.

Maybe because 100% of us here are not depressed ? Because If we were, we wouldn't post in a CFC forum i guess.

[Santiago. 1,500]

Nothing. It is meant as a general comment to the common denominator of your posts. That is my prerogative on this forum as it is yours to bitch

Booooo, poor attempt you whore