Tomo 21,751 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 5 hours ago, 1905didierblue said: Always rated him and musonda. Was so disappointed it did not happen for them. But good to know he is back on track. But is barcelona is interested, makes it next to impossible for us to get him. Why would he choose us over barca. Even in a buy back clause, the player has to agree. Could be wrong but if exercised i think they have no choice. Take the Morata situation for example, i very much doubt he would have agreed to rejoin Madrid just to be sold on again if he had a say in the matter. The best Boga could do (if he doesn't want to return) is either plead with us not to activate the release clause or let us sell him for a profit immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1905didierblue 748 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 48 minutes ago, Tomo said: Could be wrong but if exercised i think they have no choice. Take the Morata situation for example, i very much doubt he would have agreed to rejoin Madrid just to be sold on again if he had a say in the matter. The best Boga could do (if he doesn't want to return) is either plead with us not to activate the release clause or let us sell him for a profit immediately. Maybe. But does not sound right. I mean it's an agreement between the clubs not the club and the player. What if boga demands 200kpw (hypothetical), just to put us off. But I also think the clubs would only put in buy back clauses with players they are fair certain would "want" to come back. So let's hope. As for morata, again not sure, but if I had to guess, it might have been something like : you get a raise of x% from us and then y% from Chelsea. At the end of the day, I can only speculate. All these dealings are far more complicated than "we should get this player at any cost". I guess people actually think it's as easy as doing shit on FIFA. 😂 killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Tomo said: Could be wrong but if exercised i think they have no choice. Take the Morata situation for example, i very much doubt he would have agreed to rejoin Madrid just to be sold on again if he had a say in the matter. The best Boga could do (if he doesn't want to return) is either plead with us not to activate the release clause or let us sell him for a profit immediately. You are correct, the player has no choice as they signed the contract. The only exception would be if the contract gives the player the right of refusal. I have never seen such a provision, and a selling club would be mad to insert that option, as the player could simply void the entire point of the buyback clause with the stroke of a pen. https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/what-is-a-buy-back-clause-and-how-does-it-work This is exactly how buy-back clause works in football with a few changes. The main purpose of inserting a buy-back clause in the transfer agreements is to give the selling club a sense of security of being able to repurchase a player should he excel in the future. The buyback clause has to be agreed before the player can make a transfer. It may or may not be removed after a certain time period or conditions depending on the contract agreed. No other club except the selling club can pay the fee agreed while negotiating and in maximum cases, the player would have to go back to the parent club when they call for him. The player does not have a say in it and is powerless. Football transfers: Buy-Back Clauses explained https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/contract-law/item/football-transfers-buy-back-clauses-explained?category_id=117 Buy-back clauses in transfer agreements are used primarily to give a selling club the security of being able to repurchase a promising player at a set fee should the player excel in the future. Some high profile examples of such reported clauses include, Álvaro Morata (Juve back to Madrid),1 Casemiro (Porto back to Real Madrid),2 and Gerard Deulofeu (Everton back to Barcelona).3 In many cases, the benefit of the transfer extends to the: The buy-back provision is usually based on a number of individual or cumulative triggers including activating the clause: Should a buy-back provision be triggered, there is usually a contractual obligation to enforce the contract and transfer the player accordingly. As such provisions are commercial agreements between contracting parties, there is always the possibility of removing a buy-back clause should both parties agree (usually through payment made to the club that has the benefit of the buy-back clause). An interesting situation was reported over the summer with Atletico Madrid defender, Toby Alderweireld, who was on loan at Southampton for the 2014/15 season.4 Southampton had an agreement with Atletico when entering into the loan deal that they had the option to purchase the defender for £6.8m. Although not a buy-back provision, the clause gave Southampton the ability to convert the loan into a permanent transfer unless Atletico paid Southampton £1.5m to remove the clause. In the 2015 summer window Tottenham bid around £11.5m that Atletico accepted. Southampton though wanted to enforce the £6.8m purchase clause. It has not been publically reported how the matter was finally resolved but it is likely that Atletico provided compensation to Southampton in order for the player to transfer to Tottenham. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 According to goal, Inter and Everton want to buy my boy Boga Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,326 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Goal and assist tonight. killer1257 and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Goal and assist tonight. What a goal. Should have watched Sassuolo instead of Chelsea...Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 It's easy, Willian's and Pedro's contracts are expiring, €15M for Boga is more than reasonable and he looks good enough to fill up the numbers after one or both leave. Plus he's said that he wants to be back at Chelsea one day, so it would make sense to go for it NOW. NikkiCFC, Stats and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 It's easy, Willian's and Pedro's contracts are expiring, €15M for Boga is more than reasonable and he looks good enough to fill up the numbers after one or both leave. Plus he's said that he wants to be back at Chelsea one day, so it would make sense to go for it NOW.If Lampard is serious about an attacking player during this window, I'd be content with signing him & it would be straight forward for Marina to actually get done. manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 hours ago, LAM09 said: 3 hours ago, manpe said: It's easy, Willian's and Pedro's contracts are expiring, €15M for Boga is more than reasonable and he looks good enough to fill up the numbers after one or both leave. Plus he's said that he wants to be back at Chelsea one day, so it would make sense to go for it NOW. If Lampard is serious about an attacking player during this window, I'd be content with signing him & it would be straight forward for Marina to actually get done. Lampard will not sign a quality player at the expense of Willian.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Alabama said: Lampard will not sign a quality player at the expense of Willian.... The individual that will be leaving in the Summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, LAM09 said: The individual that will be leaving in the Summer? Lampard keeps pushing the board to extend his contract and bend to his demands... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Alabama said: Lampard keeps pushing the board to extend his contract and bend to his demands... Mind pointing me to this revelation about the impending two year contract extension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,326 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Boga really looks like perfect player to be our fourth winger next season with Pulisic, CHO and Sancho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Alabama said: Lampard keeps pushing the board to extend his contract and bend to his demands... Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, manpe said: Source? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/football/chelsea/transfer-talk/news/lampard-urges-chelsea-to-seal-willian-future_386419.html&ved=2ahUKEwiox8Gk5Y_nAhXHZFAKHRPgAYUQiJQBMAN6BAgEEAQ&usg=AOvVaw2g3Cdc2YSDXgeDAFzxuzvT&cf=1 Vesper and manpe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Alabama said: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/football/chelsea/transfer-talk/news/lampard-urges-chelsea-to-seal-willian-future_386419.html&ved=2ahUKEwiox8Gk5Y_nAhXHZFAKHRPgAYUQiJQBMAN6BAgEEAQ&usg=AOvVaw2g3Cdc2YSDXgeDAFzxuzvT&cf=1 we are mad as ass if we give that rotter 150 to 200K PW for 2 years would take Boga (only £12.7m) in a flash over Willian so little risk at that price Willian has went back to trash for weeks now downing tools cuz he is not getting his contract extension atm Alabama and NikkiCFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Vesper said: we are mad as ass if we give that rotter 150 to 200K PW for 2 years would take Boga (only £12.7m) in a flash over Willian so little risk at that price Willian has went back to trash for weeks now downing tools cuz he is not getting his contract extension atm Is he even downing tools....Because to me that's his level...trash and always be basically keeping us backward as a club would rather have Dani Olmo over him all day long...my only issue with Lampard his blind and premature trust in willian... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 A Boga in hand beats a Zaha in the 80 million quid bush and a Willian on the pout for more cash killer1257 and Alabama 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 if this club wasn't run by morons, the release clause would have been activated January 1. It really isn't difficult Vesper and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 5 hours ago, lucio said: if this club wasn't run by morons, the release clause would have been activated January 1. It really isn't difficult lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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