didierforever 7,349 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I was just answering your so what? I'm clearly saying his performance on that game was not good. Because the only real contribution he made was by cheating. And he missed clear opportunities to score which could've cost us the game.Yeah Terry never racially abused anyone... did not lose England's captaincy over it... And without the cultural/language barrier that people here tend to forget. PK you mean one the of the many of Ba dives?! Yeah that's what I meant about going to the ground all the time.Sorry for bring up Suarez; I don't think one can put Suarez and Ba in the same sentence; one of them knows how to play football.and i have said again and again that he was our most potent threat on that day. so how was his performance not good?on the other hand u are taking a handball totally out of context. i dont think any of the norwich players complained even after we scored. should tell u how minimum the contact was. so the "blatant handball" argument is BS.i seriously think u need to know the meaning of cheating before accusing any1. ba did not cheat. he got a favorable decision. wait, why am i even replyin to somethin as silly as this. the person who thinks ba and suarez are guilty at the same level, definitely has some issues. i mean a person who does not know the difference between going down easily and diving, unfair decision and blantant cheating... goes on to show many things. u should be sorry to bring up ba and suarez in the same sentence. because one of them is a good human, while the other is a cannibal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 and i have said again and again that he was our most potent threat on that day. so how was his performance not good?on the other hand u are taking a handball totally out of context. i dont think any of the norwich players complained even after we scored. should tell u how minimum the contact was. so the "blatant handball" argument is BS.i seriously think u need to know the meaning of cheating before accusing any1. ba did not cheat. he got a favorable decision. wait, why am i even replyin to somethin as silly as this. the person who thinks ba and suarez are guilty at the same level, definitely has some issues. i mean a person who does not know the difference between going down easily and diving, unfair decision and blantant cheating... goes on to show many things. u should be sorry to bring up ba and suarez in the same sentence. because one of them is a good human, while the other is a cannibal.Do you think that (guilty at the same level)? Because I certainly did not say it. What I asked for is some consistency... don't treat our players like saints they are not. The fact Terry (one of my fav players BTW) is not a good guy is a good thing for Chelsea because you cannot win anything with only good guys in the quad. You need some meanness to win.Completely agree on Ba and Suarez on the human level. So, I reckon Ba should leave football and employ his good heart in some good cause. While Suarez, who is a gifted footballer, should remain in the game since knowing how to play football is really all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Do you think that (guilty at the same level)? Because I certainly did not say it. What I asked for is some consistency... don't treat our players like saints they are not. The fact Terry (one of my fav players BTW) is not a good guy is a good thing for Chelsea because you cannot win anything with only good guys in the quad. You need some meanness to win.Completely agree on Ba and Suarez on the human level. So, I reckon Ba should leave football and employ his good heart in some good cause. While Suarez, who is a gifted footballer, should remain in the game since knowing how to play football is really all that matters. wait,which one of them plays for chelsea who are a european giant in a european trophy while the other "gifted footballer" plays for a mid-table team who came what 7/8th last season in PL. saying that we "cheated" for the first goal is childish, senile and downright stupid. and using this as an example to say that our players are "saints or not" is rubbish. i mean a player gets a favorable decision but he should stop the game and give the ball back? is that what u want? no one here is being inconsistent, except for u who are making a mountain out of a mole-hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 wait,which one of them plays for chelsea who are a european giant in a european trophy while the other "gifted footballer" plays for a mid-table team who came what 7/8th last season in PL. saying that we "cheated" for the first goal is childish, senile and downright stupid. and using this as an example to say that our players are "saints or not" is rubbish. i mean a player gets a favorable decision but he should stop the game and give the ball back? is that what u want? no one here is being inconsistent, except for u who are making a mountain out of a mole-hill. Please stop putting words in my mouth! When did I say he should have stopped the play?!? The same way I understand an aggressive player would play aggressively, in his natural way and not stop the play when he or some else thinks he's been too aggressive. That's up to the officials. How about not using your hand to being with?!?Concerning Suarez, that's exactly the attitude that can weaken a team: our players are always better than the opposition.If you think Ba is better than Suarez, then I rest my case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Please stop putting words in my mouth! When did I say he should have stopped the play?!? The same way I understand an aggressive player would play aggressively, in his natural way and not stop the play when he or some else thinks he's been too aggressive. That's up to the officials. How about not using your hand to being with?!?Concerning Suarez, that's exactly the attitude that can weaken a team: our players are always better than the opposition.If you think Ba is better than Suarez, then I rest my case.did he use his hand? was is intentional (like suarez when he stopped the ball against ghana). it was accidental. an accidental touch. and for that u called ba a cheat, and said he assisted by "cheating". so what am i supposed to think?? the ball touched his hand, but there was no whistle, hence he played on. for THAT u called him a cheat, so what is the only other think he could have done, for u to not call him a cheat? i am not putting words into your mouth, i am just extrapolating your explanations which when seen from the other point of view, seems (in the least) bizarre.the attitude that can actually weaken a team is that u r blasting a player, who starts after a month, plays well, infact was our most potent threat in the first half, and is still ridiculed.i think ba is better than suarez FOR CHELSEA, because i cant fathom the dressing wars and splits when an egoistic, diving, cheating, cannibal like suarez joins CFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 did he use his hand? was is intentional (like suarez when he stopped the ball against ghana). it was accidental. an accidental touch. and for that u called ba a cheat, and said he assisted by "cheating". so what am i supposed to think?? the ball touched his hand, but there was no whistle, hence he played on. for THAT u called him a cheat, so what is the only other think he could have done, for u to not call him a cheat? i am not putting words into your mouth, i am just extrapolating your explanations which when seen from the other point of view, seems (in the least) bizarre.the attitude that can actually weaken a team is that u r blasting a player, who starts after a month, plays well, infact was our most potent threat in the first half, and is still ridiculed.i think ba is better than suarez FOR CHELSEA, because i cant fathom the dressing wars and splits when an egoistic, diving, cheating, cannibal like suarez joins CFC. You believe it an accidental touch. I believe it was not.I think Ba is a terrible player; you don't.You think Suarez being a cunt makes him a bad player, or a lesser player; I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 You believe it an accidental tough. I believe it was not.best of luck in life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 best of luck in life. did you just pull a suarez there?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 did you just pull a suarez there?! i thought u would like it, since u like suarez so much!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 i thought u would like it, since u like suarez so much!!! heh that's the root of our disagreement. I don't like Suarez; I don't know him and don't care about him. As a footballer though, as a striker, I think few are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 So...about this Ba guy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,443 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 arsenal (away) thats it. 2 and a half years and that is one match in which you can say he was a 50 million striker. against bayern he did score a goal but was not even in our top 5 performers on the day - hazard, oscar, schurlle, cole, cech. i dont think that is a good stat in anyway. ba is a better targetman and a better option for us specially when playing away against organized and physical defences (which is almost all PL teams). torres is a better option when playing against teams like tottenham and bayern because they will give him space and he will be better suited in a counter-attacking situation. Agree with both points but not completely. Ba is the most effective forward against physical defences, but I feel Eto'o is the best at unlocking organized ones. I would put Torres behind Eto'o but ahead of Ba in that regard.That's why I feel you can't definitively say that Ba is an overall much better forward than Torres for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Does Ba have resale value now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,443 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Does Ba have resale value now?I think Newcastle would like to have him back, but I'd sure hate for him to go back there after the stick he received from their fans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 It was great seeing Demba score again, so strange having three strikers that are scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Great finish, even if he did miss-kick the volley a bit. But he sure does love finishing in style! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 He looked a little slow in the first two minutes he was on but afterwards he was good, took his goal really well too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I Still believe that he is our best target man and whenever we go two upfront he should always be the one to partner Eto'o/Torres because of hs physical presence and excellent movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Hasn't been easy for him this season but am very happy for Ba to see him score his first goal of the season and his first in the Champions League.And not to mention, it means now all of our strikers have scored this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 his agent says ba would like to go to turkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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