SeB 1,281 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Monsieur Cabaye is one of my favourite midfielders in the world at the moment. He has been so since I saw him destory Man Utd at St. Jame's Park last season. It's a shame that he injured right now because if I could sign one player in January it would be him. But I doubt he would leave Newcastle in January anyway. However I do find it strange that Tioté has more long passes than Cabaye, but I suppose less of them would have been key passes.Long pass is more than 25 yards. Cabaye often goes for the spectacular diagonal one whereas as you shall have noticed, Tioté feeds a lot the channels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Monsieur Cabaye is one of my favourite midfielders in the world at the moment. He has been so since I saw him destory Man Utd at St. Jame's Park last season. It's a shame that he injured right now because if I could sign one player in January it would be him. But I doubt he would leave Newcastle in January anyway. However I do find it strange that Tioté has more long passes than Cabaye, but I suppose less of them would have been key passes.Long passes is a stat that can be greatly improved upon because it's so misleading right now. For example, David Luiz has 6.3 successful long balls a game because he plays a lot of 25-30 yard passes to unmarked players ahead of him or on the wings. It's not a particularly difficult pass. How successful has Luiz been when he tries his long balls way up the field? Not successful at all. The long balls that some midfielders hit are sometimes back to the keeper or to a defender yet these long balls are not differentiated from say a long ball that hits a streaking winger who is well covered which is an incredible pass. There is no differentiation in the stat between types of long balls. I would love to see the stat broken down into forward, sideways, and backwards long balls as well as long balls from which zone to which zone at the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I know you love stats so that's for youCabaye:4 goals, 6 assists, 51 shots, 38/133 crosses, 56 key passes, 95/175 long balls, 34 foulsTioté0 goal, 1 assist, 29 shots, 3/22 crosses, 13 key passes, 96/137 long balls, 57 foulsBoth were played in a double pivot so shared the defensive and attacking duties. So tell me who's the best defensively, who's the best attacking? That's Cabaye.I think we had a chat about Tioté one or two years ago, I was quite impressed by what he did for his first season because I thought he was able to do a lot of stuff.Since he constantly disappoints me: doesn't acts as a box to box anymore, loses the ball more often, plays less passes, misses more passes.He's an ersatz of a defensive midfield, like has been said he runs like a headless chicken to recover the ball, create massive holes. He was pathetic again against City, lost the ball a couple of times and he's unique responsible of one chance and one goal (the situation leading to the corner) conceded Is he creative and plays that good pass forward after having regained the ball? I'm not sure about thatWell of course your right, you're this big scout with big posts and lots of stats, sorry to of misjudge you, i will never get in the way of your greatness ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Well of course your right, you're this big scout with big posts and lots of stats, sorry to of misjudge you, i will never get in the way of your greatness ever again.You're such a twat, who's speaking about me being a scout? Is that you or me? Wonder from where you found that out by the way but that's pretty annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 4-2-3-1 doesn't work for Chelsea's personnel. There is no sufficent 2 pairing that can properly handle the duties. I think a 4-3-2-1 or a 4-5-1 would be a much better formation. Hell go to a 4-6-0 if it means Torres isn't on the pitch. I think the front needs to be fluid to allow for Hazard to play on the left, right or middle with overlap from Mata and Oscar and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 You're such a twat, who's speaking about me being a scout? Is that you or me? Wonder from where you found that out by the way but that's pretty annoying.That's 100% wrong Seb, stats indicate that you have previously said you are working to be a scout, it's coming up 100%, so i suppose that makes me 100% right.(By the way do you have any methods to blabble?, i really want to make my posts longer but I'm just not good enough to do so, oh please teach me most worthy SEB) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBH 283 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Well of course your right, you're this big scout with big posts and lots of stats, sorry to of misjudge you, i will never get in the way of your greatness ever again.I am not a scout. I don't speak English so well, so I keep my posts short.Tiote is shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I was just using an example from our current squad. As I said, KDB could occupy a CM role in the future, or Josh, or whoever, with Oscar as a AM etc. I'm not saying, "this is the team we should field!". I'm saying that this formation would allow us to use our entire squad better, instead of relying solely on either defensive or attacking midfielders.P.S. Oscar should be able to do and play as he's told; if he's put as a CM, he'll be told to play like one.Really? Because Tiote reminds of a certain player we could do with right now, whats his name? Oh yeah...Makélelé. Ok, be it an inferior version, but I'd rather have an inferior Mak instead of a Mikel...Tiote is nothing like Makelele or Essien... why do people make such comparisons...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Tiote is nothing like Makelele or Essien... why do people make such comparisons...?I know he isn't the best DM in the world like Mikel is he... lol retard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I know he isn't the best DM in the world like Mikel is he... lol retard.You're clearly the retard if you reckon your opinion on Mikel is more realistic and valuable than that of Jose Mourinhos', Avram Grants', Carlo Ancelotti's, Phil Scolari's, AVB's, RDM's and Rafa Benitez's since he arrived at the club.If any of those managers rated your beloved Tiote more than Mikel they would have fucking signed him by now. If Mourinho/the club didn't rate Mikelin the first place and expect him to turn into the player he is why did they sign him? Your such a moron. Mikel is a fantastic option at DM, underrated by many, perhaps the only better DMs out there right now are Sergio Busquets and Javi Martinez.Where did I say Mikel is the best DM in the world btw you utter cock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 You're clearly the retard if you reckon your opinion on Mikel is more realistic and valuable than that of Jose Mourinhos', Avram Grants', Carlo Ancelotti's, Phil Scolari's, AVB's, RDM's and Rafa Benitez's since he arrived at the club.If any of those managers rated your beloved Tiote more than Mikel they would have fucking signed him by now. If Mourinho/the club didn't rate Mikelin the first place and expect him to turn into the player he is why did they sign him? Your such a moron. Where did I say Mikel is the best DM in the world btw you utter cock?Lmao that is your excuse, well you're the retard for not noticing how many games Kalou was playing here when he was clearly a terrible player, and guess who signed him?, yep i guess that makes Kalou world class.But yeah Mikel is the best DM in the world, and Kalou is one of the best also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Lmao that is your excuse, well you're the retard for not noticing how many games Kalou was playing here when he was clearly a terrible player, and guess who signed him?, yep i guess that makes Kalou world class.But yeah Mikel is the best DM in the world, and Kalou is one of the best also.Yeah mate thats right, Kalou and Mikel are shit where as Tiote is the best MF in the PL.... Pfft as if. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Yeah mate thats right, Kalou and Mikel are shit where as Tiote is the best MF in the PL.... Pfft as if. Once again you've proven the average poster you are. Come back when you've made a decent point in your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Once again you've proven the average poster you are. Come back when you've made a decent point in your life.come back when you have a life or a decent job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 come back when you have a life or a decent jobCome back when you haven't wasted your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBH 283 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Once again you've proven the average poster you are. Come back when you've made a decent point in your life.What he is saying makes much more sense than what you say. I have seen enough of your posts since I logged on 2 months ago to see that you are one of the worst posters here. All you can do is fight like a child, if someone say's something you don't like, you say things like "Look at me, I have 10,000 posts, you are nobody, I am the funniest poster award winner".You are harassing SeB, who contributes more than you do. Because he makes his posts long and thought out, because he thinks about what to say before he writes it, and you cannot do this. And that is why you harass him. Because he can do what you cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 What he is saying makes much more sense than what you say. I have seen enough of your posts since I logged on 2 months ago to see that you are one of the worst posters here. All you can do is fight like a child, if someone say's something you don't like, you say things like "Look at me, I have 10,000 posts, you are nobody, I am the funniest poster award winner".One of the worst posters here yet almost 3000 rep, nice logic.By the way i love your hate, keep it coming please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBH 283 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 One of the worst posters here yet almost 3000 rep, nice logic.By the way i love your hate, keep it coming please.I do not care about rep. I do not know how old you are, but you speak like a child. You speak like what we call a carajito. Normal people, they do not care about post count or rep or awards. How many rep you have or how many posts you have, it is meaningless. It is only what the person says that is important. And that other person, he was speaking the truth. You could not accept it, so you told him that he was no good. You did not even bother to reply to his speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I do not care about rep. I do not know how old you are, but you speak like a child. You speak like what we call a carajito. Normal people, they do not care about post count or rep or awards. How many rep you have or how many posts you have, it is meaningless. It is only what the person says that is important. And that other person, he was speaking the truth. You could not accept it, so you told him that he was no good. You did not even bother to reply to his speech.I proved his point wrong, he couldn't answer back properly and just pulled the mockery card and hasn't replied since.Yep i won this one.Though i literally couldn't care less, keep the hate coming, i couldn't tell you how many are in the same line as you because I've simply just lost count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Once again you've proven the average poster you are. Come back when you've made a decent point in your life.Thanks mate, to be honest I don't really give a fuck what you think anyway. Your probably the least liked member on the forum, I see why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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