28 dead, including 20 children, in school shooting

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

Last year Handguns Killed:

48 People in Japan,

8 Great Britain,

34 Switzerland,

52 Canada,

58 Israel,

21 Sweden,

10,728 in The United States

[Spike 12,049]

Last year Handguns Killed: 48 People in Japan, 8 Great Britain, 34 Switzerland, 52 Canada, 58 Israel, 21 Sweden, 10,728 in The United States

For real? Where'd you get this statistic?

[EBH 283]

There are over 80 murders a day committed in the USA, where the murder weapon is a gun.

[Backstreet09 499]

Love & prayers to everyone in Newtown, Connecticut.

[Amblève. 4,995]

England, where no one has guns: 14 deaths. United States, and I think you know how we feel about guns - whoo! I'm gettin' a stiffy! - 23,000 deaths from handguns. But there's no connection, and you'd be a fool and a comunist to make one. There's no connection between having a gun and shooting someone with it, and not having a gun and not shooting someone

.....Bill Hicks

Look, I'm not denying anything, all I'm trying to say is that there's so much more content in this story than fucking guns. Guns are just a means to an end, but what's this end? Stopping this free trading of guns is the first step to prevent more of these horrible massacres but it's not the last one.

In a few month's time it will be 14 years since Columbine happened, but what changed?

[Changingman_2000 876]

In my state, Michigan, I believe all you need is to be of age(18 I think) and have a CCW(carry a concealed weapon) or a CPL(concealed pistol license). I could be mistaken.

Either way, it's not too difficult to obtain a weapon.

When I was in high school about 5 years ago I went into a gun store and they had just about any firearm you could find in Call of Duty for sale. Desert Eagle's, .57 Magnum's, dozens of assault rifles, just everything. Pretty shocking.

Incredible really. Absolutely disgusting.

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

For real? Where'd you get this statistic?

The interwebz

[Spike 12,049]

The interwebz

4chan I assume.

[Changingman_2000 876]

Last year Handguns Killed: 48 People in Japan, 8 Great Britain, 34 Switzerland, 52 Canada, 58 Israel, 21 Sweden, 10,728 in The United States

The difference is staggering. When you think all of the inner city issues in every city in the UK, England and Scotland, the gun murder is very rare, which is why the press go full tilt when it happens.

Up here in Glasgow, The city has a well deserved fearsome reputation, but, for all that, Gun crime is pretty much zilch, aside from one crime family taking out another. The neds aint walking around with shooters up here and I think are a million miles from that. They still tend to go down the more quaint, traditional route of baseball bats, cutlasses, knifes and any general item you can hold easily and clump someone with

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

4chan I assume.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

[Fulham Broadway 16,855]

The difference is staggering. When you think all of the inner city issues in every city in the UK, England and Scotland, the gun murder is very rare, which is why the press go full tilt when it happens.

Up here in Glasgow, The city has a well deserved fearsome reputation, but, for all that, Gun crime is pretty much zilch, aside from one crime family taking out another. The neds aint walking around with shooters up here and I think are a million miles from that. They still tend to go down the more quaint, traditional route of baseball bats, cutlasses, knifes and any general item you can hold easily and clump someone with

If there were guns here I'd probably shoot at people about 3 times a week. Can you imagine all the brains and blood dripping down the walls in Wetherspoons at 11pm on Friday ?

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

If there were guns here I'd probably shoot at people about 3 times a week. Can you imagine all the brains and blood dripping down the walls in Wetherspoons at 11pm on Friday ?

The Guardian seems to suggest there are 3.4 million civilian firearms in the UK....http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

Absolutely huge amount if true, I wonder if they include air rifles and such as firearms

[Fulham Broadway 16,855]

Look, I'm not denying anything, all I'm trying to say is that there's so much more content in this story than fucking guns. Guns are just a means to an end, but what's this end? Stopping this free trading of guns is the first step to prevent more of these horrible massacres but it's not the last one.

In a few month's time it will be 14 years since Columbine happened, but what changed?

Fuck all. And nothing will change, the arms lobby and the NRA are too powerful in the US. Weapons and pornography are a massive capitalist business in the US.

The sad thing is the rest of the world are getting 'bored' with these massacres, they are happening all too often, and there will be another school shooting spree in a few months. Maybe this is what the weapons manufacturers want, a desensitizing to gun violence-which lets face it is a fucking cowards weapon

[Fulham Broadway 16,855]

The Guardian seems to suggest there are 3.4 million civilian firearms in the UK....http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

Absolutely huge amount if true, I wonder if they include air rifles and such as firearms

I think a lot must be -but its also the legislation thats totally warped in the US -like in Texas for example

http://www.texasgunlaws.org/

[Changingman_2000 876]

If there were guns here I'd probably shoot at people about 3 times a week. Can you imagine all the brains and blood dripping down the walls in Wetherspoons at 11pm on Friday ?

New Cross Gate, around Midnight at any given weekend would be like fucking Beirut.

[Fulham Broadway 16,855]

New Cross Gate, around Midnight at any given weekend would be like fucking Beirut.

Just imagining Millwall v West Ham 1978, same gun legislation as Texas. Gun shops all down the Old Kent Road, Bushwhackers on Deptford Bridge with assault rifles, tube trains being sprayed with automatic fire at Bermondsey.....

[Changingman_2000 876]

Just imagining Millwall v West Ham 1978, same gun legislation as Texas. Gun shops all down the Old Kent Road, Bushwhackers on Deptford Bridge with assault rifles, tube trains being sprayed with automatic fire at Bermondsey.....

And that's just the under 5's

[CHOULO19 24,332]

New Cross Gate, around Midnight at any given weekend would be like fucking Beirut.

Hey! We don't use guns to kill, we use them in festive occasions. Anyone who says otherwise will get shot, understood?