🇪🇸 Fernando Torres

[Rmpr 8,977]

Relax people!

Torres needs support right now, you are expecting too much from a player that didnt do anything for 18 months. You all blink and he starts to score 1-2 goals a game?

Btw, stop comparring Falcao to Nando, we all know the difference...Start giving some REAL SUPPORT!!!

[Tomo 21,751]

Relax people!

Torres needs support right now, you are expecting too much from a player that didnt do anything for 18 months. You all blink and he starts to score 1-2 goals a game?

Btw, stop comparring Falcao to Nando, we all know the difference...Start giving some REAL SUPPORT!!!

Define Real Support?

I support him like any player, infact during the first 10 months i was one of his biggest backers to the extent i made every excuse up in the book in the hope he will come good, it was the Arsenal and Blackburn games that made me think, hold on a minute.

I hope he comes good and i will support him, doesn't change the fact if he left tommorow his Chelsea spell will be a disaster so far.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Define Real Support?

I support him like any player, infact during the first 10 months i was one of his biggest backers to the extent i made every excuse up in the book in the hope he will come good, it was the Arsenal and Blackburn games that made me think, hold on a minute.

I hope he comes good and i will support him, doesn't change the fact if he left tommorow his Chelsea spell will be a disaster so far.

Real support is believing in the player. Not chanting only when he scores. Not crying for Falcao in every bad game he has. Whenever he touches the ball, you can feel the insecurity in fans (deeply, they dont belive in his success). THAT AINT REAL SUPPORT!

To be honest I never liked him and was totally against his move, but once he became a Chelsea player, he automaticaly had my full support, I always expect big things for him.

It is true he is disapointing all of us, but it is not time to give up and plea for a Savior.

[Tomo 21,751]

@Rmpr, He has my full support aswell, every Chelsea player who has does, but i will still access their performances like i think they did.

Ben Haim got my full support, but i still accepted he was dreadful.

[Rmpr 8,977]

@Rmpr, He has my full support aswell, every Chelsea player who has does, but i will still access their performances like i think they did.

Ben Haim got my full support, but i still accepted he was dreadful.

OK!

Trully belive in you, I was talking generaly, a lot of Chelsea Fans hope he fails...

[Leif 6,006]

Just a random fact I came across.

Shevchenko played 46 league games for us, scoring 9 league goals.

Torres has played 49 league games for us, scoring 9 league goals.

[Jype 6,398]

I was talking generaly, a lot of Chelsea Fans hope he fails...

Seriously, what the fuck? I am 100% sure that every Chelsea fan always wishes what's best for the team no matter what, or else they wouldn't be fans of the club. If they think Torres isn't good enough and needs to leave the club or at least stay on the bench in order for us to get the best possible results, that doesn't mean they 'hate him' or 'hope he fails' but that they have simply lost faith in the lad somewhere along the way. It's ridiculous to accuse someone of wanting Torres to fail because he is still a Chelsea player and we always want to see our team do well. I would be deeply offended if someone questioned my feelings towards the club just because I think a member of our team is not good enough to wear the shirt.

I have to admit that I'm one of those who have lost faith. For a long time I was fully behind him but at some point last season I began to realize that as much as we all wanted him to do well, playing Torres up front wasn't for the good of the team anymore and we began dropping points every once in a while because we had a striker who couldn't do his job.

Based on his recent performances, that faith is slowly starting to return and believe me when I tell you that no one would be happier than me to eat a big slice of humble pie and admit I was wrong to write him off too soon. Until then, I will continue to have my doubts over him but that does not make me any less of a fan than anyone else.

[Rmpr 8,977]

I will continue to have my doubts over him but that does not make me any less of a fan than anyone else.

Sorry mate, you got me wrong. I never said/wrote that not supporting Torres makes anyone less of a fan. It does not make you better or worse...

Be honest to yourself, there are people who want Torres to have nothing more than an average season so we buy Falcao or Cavani. That is lack of support!

Btw, guys are getting ofended for a simple post (it is only my point of view).

[Jype 6,398]

Sorry mate, you got me wrong. I never said/wrote that not supporting Torres makes anyone less of a fan. It does not make you better or worse...

Be honest to yourself, there are people who want Torres to have nothing more than an average season so we buy Falcao or Cavani. That is lack of support!

Btw, guys are getting ofended for a simple post (it is only my point of view).

It's not just your point of view, it's others too. I have had countless of people who are just so blindly in love with Torres accusing me and others of not being proper Chelsea fans because apparently we hate Torres and want him to fail, but that couldn't really be any further away from the truth. That kind of bullshit gets on my nerves.

[Tomo 21,751]

Sorry mate, you got me wrong. I never said/wrote that not supporting Torres makes anyone less of a fan. It does not make you better or worse...

Be honest to yourself, there are people who want Torres to have nothing more than an average season so we buy Falcao or Cavani. That is lack of support!

Whether we sign one of them two should not be based on how good a season Torres has. Even in Nando scores 40 goals this season and picks up numerous MOTM awards, if the funds are available to bring one of those two in we should do it regardless of the season Torres has.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Whether we sign one of them two should not be based on how good a season Torres has. Even in Nando scores 40 goals this season and picks up numerous MOTM awards, if the funds are available to bring one of those two in we should do it regardless of the season Torres has.

Not at all, if Torres scores 40 goals (wont happen) we do not need to splash on those two players. We can buy a cheaper striker, Lewandoski, Remy, etc.

[Rmpr 8,977]

It's not just your point of view, it's others too. I have had countless of people who are just so blindly in love with Torres accusing me and others of not being proper Chelsea fans because apparently we hate Torres and want him to fail, but that couldn't really be any further away from the truth. That kind of bullshit gets on my nerves.

That is just not my behavior, so not my fault.

Fernando is very mentaly weak, if he feels that Falcao might be coming to take his spott and fans are not backing him up (not saying that they really are not), he will return to limbo.

[Tomo 21,751]

Not at all, if Torres scores 40 goals (wont happen) we do not need to splash on those two players. We can buy a cheaper striker, Lewandoski, Remy, etc.

Not both of them but one of them, its improving and evolving the team when your on top that keeps you at the top. If Torres comes back to form (which will delight me if he did) are we going to just stick with him as undisputed first choice to the extent we struggle to replace him even when he's past it (*cough*Malouda*cough*)?

2 years ago Barca had (and still do have) the two best central midfielder in the world in Xavi and Iniesta but they still went all out to sign Fabregas. A message that they don't plan to go anywhere.

Cole, Robben and Duff were 3 of if not the 3 best wingers in the League in 2005, but we still went out and bid £24m for Wright Phillips. Although it didn't work out signing (at the time) on of the hottest young properties despite having three players on top form their was a clear statement of intent if ever there was one.

United signed Tevez, Anderson and Nani in 2007 after getting the title back off us, signing a world class forward and (at the time) two of the brightest young prospect's in the world was a clear message to challengers that they don't plan to have the title taken away from Old Trafford any time soon.

United brought RVP despite Rooney and Welbeck developing a promising partnership last season. Signing RVP was a real statement of intent from Fergie that he wants the title back, signing Remy would not have been so. Infact all the example's i have mentioned have been serious statements.

If either of those two become available, we should jump at the chance to sign them.

[Muzchap 8,966]

That is just not my behavior, so not my fault.

Fernando is very mentaly weak, if he feels that Falcao might be coming to take his spott and fans are not backing him up (not saying that they really are not), he will return to limbo.

But that IS the problem.

Nobody should be guaranteed anything in life (except taxes + death)

I'm a big fan of Nando - really like the guy.

BUT if he cannot handle CFC having 'other' striking options, then he needs to be sold. Nobody is bigger than the team, he needs to understand that.

In my heart the only thing that I see makes sense is Torres + cash back to Atletico for Falcao... I personally think that's the only way everybody involved can on one out of this one well - and maybe a further back-up striker too...

I'm not a hater, check my previous posts - just had time to reflect and this debate will never go away, we'll always be watching and expecting another disaster - not fair on the team and us, the fans....

[Tomo 21,751]

That is just not my behavior, so not my fault.

Fernando is very mentaly weak, if he feels that Falcao might be coming to take his spott and fans are not backing him up (not saying that they really are not), he will return to limbo.

There in-lies the problem.

Drogba saw off numerous contenders at his time at Chelsea to be number one forward. He shafted Sheva and Kezman aside, forced Gudjohnsen into midfield, forced Anelka on the wing, kept Torres out. Crespo was the only player that came even remotely close to taking that role of Drogba, and even he left after 1 year.

Torres should be prepared to fight and earn the honour of being called number 1 forward at this club and if that means having to do to Falcao/Cavani what Didier did to Sheva and himself, then so be it.

[Rmpr 8,977]

There in-lies the problem.

Drogba saw off numerous contenders at his time at Chelsea to be number one forward. He shafted Sheva and Kezman aside, forced Gudjohnsen into midfield, forced Anelka on the wing, kept Torres out. Crespo was the only player that came even remotely close to taking that role of Drogba, and even he left after 1 year.

Torres should be prepared to fight and earn the honour of being called number 1 forward at this club and if that means having to do to Falcao/Cavani what Didier did to Sheva and himself, then so be it.

100% with you, but isnt a supposed 40 goals proved? Either way, having 2 world class st is fantastic.

In the bottom of my heart, I dont belive Torres playing good with a shadow on his back...

[Tomo 21,751]

100% with you, but isnt a supposed 40 goals proved? Either way, having 2 world class st is fantastic.

In the bottom of my heart, I dont belive Torres playing good with a shadow on his back...

Yeah agree and if he does score 40 goals i would class him as number one forward until someone else comes in and proves they deserve it or he loses form again.

The other thing is after a 40 goal season he might become complacent, a new forward will be a reminder that he still needs to keep performing and scoring goals and he won't carry on getting picked on the back off a great season, which was a bit of a problem after we won the double with some of our players.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Just a random fact I came across.

Shevchenko played 46 league games for us, scoring 9 league goals.

Torres has played 49 league games for us, scoring 9 league goals.

Said and done.

Sheva was the biggest flop for Chelsea, and now Torres with those stats has prove to be the most expensive flop of the entire history of Chelsea.

It's a pity that Sheva never received the support that Torres is getting now.

[The Skipper 20,609]

It's a pity that Sheva never received the support that Torres is getting now.

Everyone loved Sheva. Only thing Torres has on his side is age.

[Rowan_Osborn 58]

Said and done.

Sheva was the biggest flop for Chelsea, and now Torres with those stats has prove to be the most expensive flop of the entire history of Chelsea.

It's a pity that Sheva never received the support that Torres is getting now.

Sheva's goals came against weaker opposition though, the league is much more open and difficult now. Under Jose we were winning the league with games to spare.