The Benitez Thread

[Muzchap 8,966]

Rafael Benitez in training ground bust-up with Chelsea players after ...

Great more in-fighting just what we need

[MHL 47 378]

Just curious, could Martin Broughton do the business for us? He did run big companies, but has some insight in football.

As far as I am aware a very successful businessman and also a Chelsea STH for lots of years. Downside is his football experience isn't huge and he's been at that 'orrible red mob and to be frank I dread the thought of anyone with a link to them in a position of authority at the club. We've had more than enough of that lot, no more ex-reds please, not for a very long time anyway.

[zolayes 14,489]

If Gourlay went, maybe even Wilkins could fill the same role that you suggest Hoddle could..........although I'd doubt it could happen. Pat Nevin seems to have the intellect and diplomacy required.

Dein would be the perfect choice I'd agree, Gill seemingly has other aspirations but his type is what we need.

When you ;look at our board ,,, Gourlay shirt salesman ... Buck ..lawyer .. Emanalo .. Girls team coach ... Marina ...Spy ... Eugene friend and business pal.

is it any wonder .................

[MHL 47 378]

Great more in-fighting just what we need

Yes please lots more fighting, with any luck one of the players will give his smug, grotesque looking, goatee covered two chins a good whack. I don't normally condone violence, but in his case I can more than make an exception.

If he is to go sooner than the close season, I'm almost certain it'll take a biblical level event like a mass fallout with 'The Incompetent Twat' (think of the three letter acronym!) for him to get gone sooner rather than later.

[KingB 9]

@MHL 47,

That would even make our chances of getting a good manager worse.

[zolayes 14,489]

@MHL 47,

That would even make our chances of getting a good manager worse.

IS Torres still your favourite player??

[MHL 47 378]

@MHL 47,

That would even make our chances of getting a good manager worse.

Yep, maybe so, but I'd buy a ticket to watch it!

In that one second I'd have got more enjoyment than in the majority of games I've endured with that fat fraud in the job.

[Changingman_2000 876]

Whether it's accurate or not, Neil Ashton (Daily Mail or Express) has a story this morning of a bust up on the training ground yesterday. The story goes that TFSW tried to dig the players out for not performing. One player retorted "This is the mainly the same players that won the Champions League last year, so maybe your the problem, and not us".

Him still employed is making us a laughing stock.

[zolayes 14,489]

Whether it's accurate or not, Neil Ashton (Daily Mail or Express) has a story this morning of a bust up on the training ground yesterday. The story goes that TFSW tried to dig the players out for not performing. One player retorted "This is the mainly the same players that won the Champions League last year, so maybe your the problem, and not us".

Him still employed is making us a laughing stock.

Similar stuff in the Cracked Mirror

[Hutcho 8,443]

It's just bull shit throughout. Sacking Rdm. Appointing him. Keeping torres. Not signing a midfielder. Rafa's questionable tactics. Rafa's questionable subs. Rafa's questionable attitude. Players attitude. Boards failure to get rid of rafa after being the worse manager in the roman reign.

How is he still there. If roman makes him the permanent manger then the world has gone absolutely crazy. Saying that it's already crazy. How the fuck is this happening.

[Hutcho 8,443]

I am at the point where top 4 is all that matters. And hopefully we can achieve that then announce that rafa had fucked off somewhere and torres has gone with him. Then everything will look bright again. We have some amazing talent and some amazing youth talent on top of that. We just need people to make smart decisions and concentrate on what's best for the club first and foremost.

[zolayes 14,489]

check the names of those still wanting to keep him

[robdog 2,084]

It's just bull shit throughout. Sacking Rdm. Appointing him. Keeping torres. Not signing a midfielder. Rafa's questionable tactics. Rafa's questionable subs. Rafa's questionable attitude. Players attitude. Boards failure to get rid of rafa after being the worse manager in the roman reign.

How is he still there. If roman makes him the permanent manger then the world has gone absolutel crazy. Saying that it's already crazy. How the fuck is this happening.

Obviously the board believes that both rafadyce & torrid can transform the club. Also I am thinking the board believes in fairy tales & Mary fuckin' Poppin

[Peace. 4,352]

I was a tad bored so I did some stats. I made two distinct tables of the league. The first one as it was when Roberto Di Matteo get sacked. The second one shows the raking had the league started when mr Paella got the job.

Under Roberto :

1er - 30 pts - 13 p - Manchester United

2ème - 28 pts - 12 p - Manchester City

3ème - 26 pts - 13 p - West Bromwich

4ème - 24 pts - 12 p - Chelsea

....

6ème - 20 pts - 13 p - Arsenal

....
8ème - 17 pts - 12 p - Tottenham
....
10ème - 16 pts - 12 p - Sweansea

11ème - 16 pts - 13 p - Stoker City
12ème - 15 pts - 12 p - Liverpool

Under that skinny dude :

1er - 38 pts - 14 p - Manchester United
2ème - 34 pts - 15 p - Tottenham
3ème - 28 pts - 15 p - Machester City
4ème - 27 pts - 14 p - Arsenal
5ème - 25 pts - 15 p - Chelsea
6ème - 24 pts - 15 p - Liverpool
7ème - 22 pts - 15 p - Sweansea
8ème - 20 pts - 14 p - Stoke City

?ème - 14 pts - 14 p - West Bromwich

Make what you want out of this. I think that it's eloquent enough.

[Hutcho 8,443]

And we were also playing some good attacking football even though we were getting caught on the break a lot. At least in an attacking sense we were better.

Though Tbh its just the fact it was Rdm and not this twat. Rdm could have lost 10 in a row and he would have got less abuse from the Chelsea fans than rafa has in 1 game. Rdm was one of the lads. The players believed in him, trusted him and listened to him. Is the same true for rafa??? Unlikely.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

11 League Games + At Least 2 FA Cup Games + At Least 4 UEL Games....

Sounds less worse if I say 11 league games

[Jype 6,398]

Look on the bright side people. We're facing West Bromwich in our next league fixture, if you know what I mean. :eyebrows:

[Changingman_2000 876]

It's just bull shit throughout. Sacking Rdm. Appointing him. Keeping torres. Not signing a midfielder. Rafa's questionable tactics. Rafa's questionable subs. Rafa's questionable attitude. Players attitude. Boards failure to get rid of rafa after being the worse manager in the roman reign.

How is he still there. If roman makes him the permanent manger then the world has gone absolutely crazy. Saying that it's already crazy. How the fuck is this happening.

Maybe the grief rightfully dished out by the press over the Robbie sacking had him thinking that he wasn't going to be so trigger happy next time. Robbie's sacking was, by far, the most shocking of them all, If for no other reason than he had great history with the club. In my opinion, given the fans very low opinion of TFSW, his appointment was even more pathetic than that of Grant. Whatever the reason's, the sacking's of Butch and Robbie have, for me, left a very, very bitter taste, that is taking a very long time to go.

[Changingman_2000 876]

the thing is, TFSW can't be short of a few quid. Surely even that deluded Pooh Miner can work out that he aint going to get the job full time. So why is he still here? You'd think he'd have enough dignity, his own strength of his nature, to walk off into the sunset and write this project off as an error of judgement. Because the longer he stays, the worse his record becomes as he aint pulling up any tress, far from it. The team is lethargic and, as it stands now, the only chance we have of a top 4 finish is if the Arse go on the slide. I think the Handbrakes will finish third, and (although i hate to say it), probably rightly so. We still have to go to Old Trafford and Anfield (God help us with this cunt still in charge) and play the Handbrakes at home. As I say, we will be extremely fortunate to finish fourth.

[The only place to be 11,313]

He's the owner and will more than likely have the ultimate veto or approval. What we lack at board level is clear and that is experience, the confidence that experience and independant wealth brings with it (and a damn big pair of big-boy bollocks), who'll tell Roman how it is and needs to be, thanking him for his support and input and letting him know just how things are going. Maybe Roman's background is a bigger issue than most think, Russian poor boy made very good, trusts next to no-one other than old associates, thinks that they can do the business for him in football as well as his other businesses.

I'm more of a mind now that at the end of Jose's reign Roman thought he knew best. he's then got lucky or unlucky with managers and the senior players have helped drag out success with help from managers of course. We're now at the point with the diminishing powers of those senior players we have left where their will isn't quite enough.

Jose's probably available and will have the motivation for a new go with us. The next jigsaw piece that's needed is getting rid of some of the board, including the over-promoted Gourlay and Emenalo, he wouldn't survive Jose anyhow.

I hear David Gill and David Dein may be available! These are experienced and skilled football people who are not reliant on wages from Roman for their wealth or careers and the sort of people a club with the status of ours should be employing. They could build a structure to deliver success and sustainability.

You call Gourlay and Emenalo over-promoted, but I'm not at the point where I blame them for the state we're in. I see our problems as being in the makings before they actually reached their positions.

In fact I think they've both done good things. I think Gourlay's done good work in the commercial side (which is his job) and I think Emenalo needs some of the credit for the change in direction regarding our transfer and recruitment policy. If you look at the signings made under his tenure, then I don't know if you could make a case that he's either been over-promoted or deserving of the sack.

In fact there's been a greater emphasis on long-term planning since both men took their current positions, although you may think the credit needs to go elsewhere. I think they are easy scapegoats in many respects. It's a given that we want the manager out so we can't have a go at him. He's gone. But then there's got to be someone above him to blame, right? Well we can't demand Roman leaves (most of us won't) because he bankrolls us right now. So who's left?

I think Buck is the exception. I like the guy and I admire the stand he took in the Terry case but I don't know if he brings enough to the role, although the role is somewhat limited. From a PR and organisational point of view, I'd love us to get someone like Lord Coe in there (I've mentioned this elsewhere) but I'll admit I have no idea on the feasibility of such a move.