JDY 1,290 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Missed his game earlier but heard he did alright. Don't want to get too excited but what he's doing is very impressive considering he hadn't played a single minute of senior football before last month. Styles and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Since joining Betis, Musonda has played 6 games. All of them Betis have been unbeaten, winning three and drawing three. They were big relegation candidates before he joined. Now they are around mid-table and look to be well clear of relegation danger. Has Musonda been a big part of that? Definitely so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 4 hours ago, MCM4PR3Z said: I think his extreme dribbling skills should be used closer to the goal of the opponent. AM is his position for me. Yep you may be right and, importantly, it seems that Charly, Chelsea and Betis all agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TQB 19 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 13 hours ago, Henrique said: Please stop the stupid comments. I regreet making the first question. Nevermind. Please stop the stupid responses without any substance or arguments, while I wasn't even quoting your original post. Out of all the football players in the world there are only a select few that get to play on a professional level. I don't believe it's so far fetched that those players would pass on their natural given abilities to their children, so they have a higher chance of having children that go on to be professional athletes (football or other) themselves. Essien19 and chelseafan26 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TQB 19 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 10 hours ago, MCM4PR3Z said: Agreed. It has as much to do with genetics as political figures that are family of other political figures. Those are the main reasons why you see that many footballers are sons of other professional footballers. 1. Their fathers know everybody in the world of football (45%) 2. Money (27%) 3. Their fathers give them the right tips starting at a very young age (16%) 4. They start extremely early (9%) 5. Genetics (3%) I'm sure you did an extensive study on these percentages, but Dr. Alun Williams, Director of the Manchester Metropolitan University’s Cheshire Sports Genomics Laboratory happens to disagree with you. According to him scientific evidence suggests that athletic ability is dependent on both genetic and environmental factors. “The genetic component appears to be around 50-70%, depending on what aspect of ability one is thinking about. Even a very favourable set of genes will not automatically make someone a good athlete, let alone a champion,” he said. “But certainly, if someone has a very unfavourable set of genes, in many sports no amount of training and diet will make them a champion.” Anyway I suggest we close this topic and get back to the Charly Musonda discussion. Jeronimo123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 59 minutes ago, TQB said: Please stop the stupid responses without any substance or arguments, while I wasn't even quoting your original post. Out of all the football players in the world there are only a select few that get to play on a professional level. I don't believe it's so far fetched that those players would pass on their natural given abilities to their children, so they have a higher chance of having children that go on to be professional athletes (football or other) themselves. That may or maybe not be true but it certainly doesn't apply in music try listening to a Julian Lennon or Ziggy Marley album ! 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 53 minutes ago, TQB said: I'm sure you did an extensive study on these percentages, but Dr. Alun Williams, Director of the Manchester Metropolitan University’s Cheshire Sports Genomics Laboratory happens to disagree with you. According to him scientific evidence suggests that athletic ability is dependent on both genetic and environmental factors. “The genetic component appears to be around 50-70%, depending on what aspect of ability one is thinking about. Even a very favourable set of genes will not automatically make someone a good athlete, let alone a champion,” he said. “But certainly, if someone has a very unfavourable set of genes, in many sports no amount of training and diet will make them a champion.” Anyway I suggest we close this topic and get back to the Charly Musonda discussion. Lol, sons of athletes have ofcourse 50 times the chance to make it as an athlete compared to the chance of a normal person with the same genes. If you deny this you are just plain stupid in my eyes. You don't need studies that don't have to do anything with the subject to know that, you just need common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TQB 19 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 15 hours ago, MCM4PR3Z said: Lol, sons of athletes have ofcourse 50 times the chance to make it as an athlete compared to the chance of a normal person with the same genes. If you deny this you are just plain stupid in my eyes. You don't need studies that don't have to do anything with the subject to know that, you just need common sense. ... and yes intelligence is also genetically determined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 2 hours ago, TQB said: ... and yes intelligence is also genetically determined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 On 06/03/2016 at 6:39 PM, TQB said: Please stop the stupid responses without any substance or arguments, while I wasn't even quoting your original post. Out of all the football players in the world there are only a select few that get to play on a professional level. I don't believe it's so far fetched that those players would pass on their natural given abilities to their children, so they have a higher chance of having children that go on to be professional athletes (football or other) themselves. You are stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 On 06/03/2016 at 7:00 PM, TQB said: I'm sure you did an extensive study on these percentages, but Dr. Alun Williams, Director of the Manchester Metropolitan University’s Cheshire Sports Genomics Laboratory happens to disagree with you. According to him scientific evidence suggests that athletic ability is dependent on both genetic and environmental factors. “The genetic component appears to be around 50-70%, depending on what aspect of ability one is thinking about. Even a very favourable set of genes will not automatically make someone a good athlete, let alone a champion,” he said. “But certainly, if someone has a very unfavourable set of genes, in many sports no amount of training and diet will make them a champion.” Anyway I suggest we close this topic and get back to the Charly Musonda discussion. argument from authority that lacks substance, the discussion about biologic factors and sports is a huge one, and I could quote many "authorities" that disagree with Dr. Alun Williams, Director of the Manchester Metropolitan University’s Cheshire Sports Genomics Laboratory, but I'm too bored now to have this kind of discussion in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 On 07/03/2016 at 11:26 AM, TQB said: ... and yes intelligence is also genetically determined. so, it seems you are doomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Charly told a newspaper he wouldn't mind another season in spain, he loves la liga. He also said that when the time comes he will choose his national team saying he can choose between Zambia, Belgium and England. And it will be his choice (his father told earlier this week he probably choose Belgium) Beigl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shakez 755 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Looks like he will get a guarenteed call up for the Belgium squad (against Portugal) now that Hazard and KDB are out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo 2 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 He got called up for the U21... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 What a farce, this little guy has basically taken Spanish league by storm, but he can't make the senior squad ahead of Origi, the supposed wonder kid that featured in Ligue 1's worst team of the season. I would not be surprised if that clown in charge of Belgium's NT starts Benteke ahead of Lukaku in France. Hamilton and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 45 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said: What a farce, this little guy has basically taken Spanish league by storm, but he can't make the senior squad ahead of Origi, the supposed wonder kid that featured in Ligue 1's worst team of the season. I would not be surprised if that clown in charge of Belgium's NT starts Benteke ahead of Lukaku in France. My ratings for Charly's games with Betis so far are; OK given that it was a debut, decent, good, outstanding, decent, quiet, very quiet. I don't think we should get carried away about what Charly has achieved, or encourage any complacent thoughts to creep into his head. His time will come for the Red Devil's I'm sure. If I shared your nationality perhaps I'd see it differently but, speaking purely from a Chelsea point of view, I'm quite content with his U21 call up. I know Wilmots was in the ground when Charly produced that outstanding performance but he must have seen coverage of the others too and it looks to me like he's taken a balanced decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 7 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: If I shared your nationality perhaps I'd see it differently He's Romanian, blue instead of black stripe OhForAGreavsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 The U21 really wanted him, he's theire leader and they have two important games to qualify for EC.. If someone get's injured of senior squad, charly will probably have to fill in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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