🇧🇪 Charly Musonda Jr.

[lionsden 4,689]

Maybe we should just focus on throwing large sums of money at the 22+ year old established players who are "viewed" as good enough and ready to contribute (notice I said "viewed" as perception is everything in football) instead of wasting money, time and effort on recruiting the best youth talents in Europe with absolutely zero plan and willingness to play them in the first team either immediately on in the future. It will be a massive shame to see the club waste massive talents like Musonda, Boga et al.

[Shakez 755]

What is his homegrown status? Thought i read somewhere that he still needs 1 more year.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

What is his homegrown status? Thought i read somewhere that he still needs 1 more year.

A player is considered homegrown by the FA if he spent at least 3 years between the age of 15 and 21 in an English or Welsh club.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Well the solution is very simple: The talents should stop coming to Chelsea for money and possible glory. You're very quick to throw the moral responsibility on the clubs but forget that the players come here more than willingly and they do so out of greed. Simple as, really.

Of course. But if you grow up poor like many of these young guys in Brussels or Liège - a lot of them with foreign roots - getting a couple of millions and a carefree future is very difficult to resist. I think the next generation will be more careful. There are good examples of what you should not do around now, and they talk.

That said, of course the moral responsibility is on the clubs. They're the ones that are throwing the money at them. The moral responsibility of drug addiction lies on the dealers as well. ;-)

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Of course. But if you grow up poor like many of these young guys in Brussels or Liège - a lot of them with foreign roots - getting a couple of millions and a carefree future is very difficult to resist. I think the next generation will be more careful. There are good examples of what you should not do around now, and they talk.

That said, of course the moral responsibility is on the clubs. They're the ones that are throwing the money at them. The moral responsibility of drug addiction lies on the dealers as well. ;-)

But that's the thing, for all of those young players, they only have potential and with everyone of them there is a real chance that even if they stayed at their original clubs they won't actually achieve that potential, in which case they can only dream throughout their careers of the kind of sums they'd make here in a few years at youth level. They'd also enter a 'bracket' of wages that even if they failed here they'd still make a lot more than they would had they failed elsewhere.

That's why I find it very hard to feel sorry for those youth players as if they are victims in anyway.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

But that's the thing, for all of those young players, they only have potential and with everyone of them there is a real chance that even if they stayed at their original clubs they won't actually achieve that potential, in which case they can only dream throughout their careers of the kind of sums they'd make here in a few years at youth level. They'd also enter a 'bracket' of wages that even if they failed here they'd still make a lot more than they would had they failed elsewhere.

That's why I find it very hard to feel sorry for those youth players as if they are victims in anyway.

Well, let's agree the biggest victim is world football then. ;-)

[vandeveldejonathan 17]

So is it gonna be another season with the youth team for him? Or is there still a chance he might go on loan? I can't really imagine Mou could say no to having him loaned out if say, Marseille or Monaco are interested?

[Shakez 755]

http://www.squawka.com/news/reports-chelsea-youngster-charly-musonda-agrees-marseille-deal/424388?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

This popped up today but im not sure if it goes through. For some reason it seems te club is hesistant to loan him out (Same as Boga and Colkett). Anyway, apparently Bielsa wants either Musonda or Charles Aranguiz. The latter is probably too expensive though.

[RhesusReus 219]

maybe he gets a Capital One Cup game like Christensen did last year. I hope he does, and I hope he impresses enough to get Jose's attention, as he is by far the best prospect we have in the youth system.

He's going to be a good player, and chances are, it will be at a different club than ours, but I'd like to see him get at least one or two looks in our team before he is sold.

[didierforever 7,349]

maybe he gets a Capital One Cup game like Christensen did last year. I hope he does, and I hope he impresses enough to get Jose's attention, as he is by far the best prospect we have in the youth system.

He's going to be a good player, and chances are, it will be at a different club than ours, but I'd like to see him get at least one or two looks in our team before he is sold.

christensen was part of our first team.

we have moses, cuadrado, traore.. even remy can play wings.. no chance for musonda

[Hamilton 2,120]

News over here is that his management is searching him a team to go on loan, even former team Anderlecht has been contacted.

Psv, Monaco, Marseille are still options, probably they look who gives the most playing time..

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Well, Anderlecht could use him actually. Thanks guys!

[vandeveldejonathan 17]

You got any source? Would be brilliant!

[bethos1 802]

He won't go to anderlecht, he said it himself

[Weckerz 3,781]

He should've just stayed at Anderlecht in the first place, he would have had 2 years experience in the first team and CL by now, like Tielemans.

[Shakez 755]

For people that speak dutch, Yannick Ferrera was on Extra Time yesterday (A belgian football talkshow). Ferrera is currently the coach of Sint-Truiden, but he worked with Musonda when he was a coach for the Anderlecht youth squad.

Here's the bit of him talking about Charly: http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/videozone/programmas/extratime/2.40269?video=1.2402002

Quick translation for other users: He trained a couple of the current belgian stars including Januzaj, Tielemans, Denayer, Lukaku,... but he was most impressed with Charly. He said that Charly at age 10 had the decision making of a 30 year old player ( also very concentrated). At the moment he thinks Charly can make the same evolution like Thorgan Hazard in terms of loan progression. The other panel members we're questioning Charly's decision for leaving Anderlecht too soon. Ferrera replied: "I think Charly's decision was logical, i could be wrong ofcourse but he's an Iniesta type talent."

[Siwy_CFC 7]

For his development we should to send him on loan. OM would be a brilliant place for him, they sell their players which could be his enemies for squad, so the battle would be easier for him. They play in similar way as we play and of course he can collect an european experience there.

[tommyv 13]

gave the winning assist for abraham against liverpool u21

[Styles 9,790]

gave the winning assist for abraham against liverpool u21

What a great assist that was too. Kid is ridiculously talented.

[Shakez 755]

Holy crap, he just received some big praise from U21's coah Adi Viveash: "Viveash: "Charly Musonda was the best player in the U21 league in the last three months of last season, let alone at Chelsea."

Here are some more words from Adi on Musonda:

It actually sounds like Viveash is screaming for Musonda to be given a chance (i never seen him do that for any player). It also shows that not everybody at the club agrees with Mourinho's youth policy. My only hope is that they find a good loan team for the kid, or Chelsea allow him to leave the club. So that he doesn't waste his talent at the U21 lvl.

Edit:

Gif of his amazing run in the game against Liverpool: https://streamable.com/59vk