Financial Fair Play

[BlueLyon 9,359]

The FFP is starting to piss me off. We seem to be only ones following it, while our transfer targets are moving to clubs who dont give two fucks about Ffp. I dont think we should spend like crazy, but if it takes to get Cavani or Vidal or whoever for little more money, Ffp shouldnt be the issue. Rather see we spend more money on 1/2 players who will bring exact quality and improvement we need than 5 who will still be expensive, but not give enough for price paid (Sadly, Willian is example in this case)

Anyway if punishemnt for breaking Ffp is like "pay 100k and continue spending" it makes no point. Litteraly you pay money to be able to spend more money. Uefa making cuntish profit there.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Dp

[Koppler 19]

The FFP is starting to piss me off. We seem to be only ones following it, while our transfer targets are moving to clubs who dont give two fucks about Ffp. I dont think we should spend like crazy, but if it takes to get Cavani or Vidal or whoever for little more money, Ffp shouldnt be the issue. Rather see we spend more money on 1/2 players who will bring exact quality and improvement we need than 5 who will still be expensive, but not give enough for price paid (Sadly, Willian is example in this case)

Anyway if punishemnt for breaking Ffp is like "pay 100k and continue spending" it makes no point. Litteraly you pay money to be able to spend more money. Uefa making cuntish profit there.

I have to agree.

The dippers had a 50 mil loss and are talking about spending 70 mil this summer.

We pretty much spend what we earn and other teams say fuck it to the rules and there's no punishment.

I say anyone that breaks them like man c and the dippers get banned from all European competition for a season for the first offense. A second offense is a 2 season ban and a 3rd offense is a 5 season ban from Europe. Also increase the penalties, if the first offense is 100k then the second should be significant like 10 million and the 3rd should royally screw the team like a 100 million fine.

[mediator 2,026]

If the first sanction in only a 100k fine, we should break the bank this summer to sign our targets before the others clubs.

Cavani

World class cm

Great LB

and why not another AM like Reus, Di Maria, Alexis sanchez is not bad too

and we shouldn't sign second fiddle due to that FFP bullshit

[didierforever 7,349]

If the first sanction in only a 100k fine, we should break the bank this summer to sign our targets before the others clubs.

Cavani

World class cm

Great LB

and why not another AM like Reus, Di Maria, Alexis sanchez is not bad too

and we shouldn't sign second fiddle due to that FFP bullshit

^this.

if we are buying costa cos cavani is not in our budget due to FFP, then fuck it!!! buy cavani. end of,

LB would not be much of a bother. dont think coentrao/moreno/rodriguez would cost much anyways.

CM like rakitic/witsel/vidal. why not?

seriously dont think we need another AM though. our current AMs are very good and i would judge them when someone like cavani/costa/mandzukic is playing ahead of them.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

I bet that cunt Platini and UEFA are waiting for us to make a bad call in the FFP to start banning clubs. As far as I know, till Chelsea fcks up FFP regulations, every club in Europe is safe.

[Fernando 6,585]

City, PSG breach FFP rules, offered settlements

UEFA's club financial control board (CFBCB) has made offers to all the clubs deemed to have breached the rules ahead of its meeting on Thursday.

The clubs - understood to be fewer than 20 in total and including Manchester City and PSG - can either accept the offer of the sanctions, which could range from a reprimand to a fine up to restrictions on the squad for European competition next season, or try to negotiate a lesser punishment.

If no agreement is reached, then the outstanding cases will go to an adjudicatory panel for a final decision.

It is not known what settlements each individual club has been offered but UEFA could reveal the outcomes as early as Friday.

The most powerful sanction, that of being excluded from European competition, is not expected to be used against any of the clubs.

UEFA and Manchester City both would not comment but City boss Manuel Pellegrini said last week there had never been any concern that the club would be excluded from the Champions League for breaching FFP rules.

City have been working closely with UEFA to try to ensure they comply with spending rules, which limit losses to 45million euros over the last two years.

Pellegrini said: "I felt here inside the club nobody feared we could be suspended for next year."

UEFA president Michel Platini said in a French newspaper last week he did not think any of the clubs who breached rules will be banned from European competition next season.

Qatar-owned PSG have been the club under most scrutiny after they wiped out their losses with a huge and back-dated sponsorship deal with the Qatar Tourist Authority.

Platini said he was unsure if that "innovative" sponsorship deal with a related party played by the rules.

He said: "I will say simply that Paris St Germain's financial model is distinctive and atypical. That image contract with the QTA, the tourism office of Qatar, is innovative, that's all I can say.

"But is it viable? Is the value of the contract correct? These are questions that the experts must decide."

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/football-city-psg-breach-ffp-rules-183417466--sow.html

[Fernando 6,585]

City and PSG facing squad sanctions for FFP breaches

Manchester City and Paris St Germain are expected to have financial restrictions imposed on their squads for next season's Champions League after breaching UEFA's spending rules.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/football-city-psg-facing-squad-sanctions-115832312--sow.html

[LAM09 7,064]

Looks like PSG and City have got off lightly. No surprise really!

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I read somewhere that Platini was considering instead of banning teams who breach FFP completely from European competitions, to have a limit on the wages of the players who can play in Europe from those teams. So if you breach FFP you can't play all your stars in European competitions.

I think that's a very practical and achievable idea. I hope they implement it because let's face it, banning big clubs from the CL was never realistic.

[Fernando 6,585]

I read somewhere that Platini was considering instead of banning teams who breach FFP completely from European competitions, to have a limit on the wages of the players who can play in Europe from those teams. So if you breach FFP you can't play all your stars in European competitions.

I think that's a very practical and achievable idea. I hope they implement it because let's face it, banning big clubs from the CL was never realistic.

Yeah that's true.

It will cost too much with banning, as there would be court actions and all that shenanigans.

This idea is more practical, cause the clubs will accept that much easier then anything else.

Fine, club reduction, no problem!

[mediator 2,026]

Jake Cohen ‏@JakeFCohen 32 min

Chelsea's most expensive FFP player costs for 2014-15:

Torres - £18.5m

Hazard - £16.7m

Willian - £10.8m

Schurrle - £8m

Matic - £7.4m

#CFC

[didierforever 7,349]

Jake Cohen ‏@JakeFCohen 32 min

Chelsea's most expensive FFP player costs for 2014-15:

Torres - £18.5m

Hazard - £16.7m

Willian - £10.8m

Schurrle - £8m

Matic - £7.4m

#CFC

ummm.... nope... not possible...

this stat means that

hazard is earning 198kpw. which even dailymail would say is high.

[The Skipper 20,609]

ummm.... nope... not possible...

this stat means that

hazard is earning 198kpw. which even dailymail would say is high.

That fee takes into amortisation of their transfer fee as well.

Nonetheless I still think it's incorrect because Jake Cohen has Hazard down as £175k a week which I think is nonsense. He's closer to £120k.

[didierforever 7,349]

That fee takes into amortisation of their transfer fee as well.

Nonetheless I still think it's incorrect because Jake Cohen has Hazard down as £175k a week which I think is nonsense. He's closer to £120k.

i did take that into consideration.

the stat said 16,7 mil. hazard's transfer fee =32mil for 5 years = 6.4 mil per year. so salary = 16.7-6.4 = 10.3mil which is close to 198kpw.

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

Richard Conway - BBC Radio 5 live sports news correspondent:

"Manchester City and Paris St-Germain are facing fines in the region of €60m (£50m), restrictions on their Champions League squad size and a potential wage limit for failing Uefa's financial fair play rules.

"BBC Sport understands the two organizations - part of a group of nine clubs under examination by Uefa for failing the "break even" test - are facing similar penalties. It's believed a Champions League squad reduction could see the clubs restricted to using anywhere between 18 and 21 players in Uefa's premier competition. A normal squad size is 25.

"A wage cap could also be introduced on the errant clubs to ensure there is no rise on this season's squad wage bill for the Champions League. It's thought clubs have until Friday to agree a "settlement" with Uefa."

Also:

[Superblue 6,372]

What this shows is

1. Uefa are serious about FFP (it's only likely to get even stricter!)

2. It's right for us to be working within FFP if these are the types of sanctions. This means players such as David Luiz who carries a lot of potential sale value but isn't regarded as first choice may need to be sacrificed.

3. It's important to have a strong core of homegrown players.

[Fernando 6,585]

I think the epic fight of City vs Uefa will be more fun then the world cup itself! :-D

[The Mak 4,459]

They will appeal and we'll find out if they're serious about FFP or not. I suspect they'll cave. Even still, a 2-3 year transfer ban is much more devastating to City than £50m over 3 years (which probably won't even added to their deficit). It's a nice summer bonus for Platini anyway...

[AndersonBLUE 819]

City have to be careful, I would have just accepted the fine.