🇳🇬 Victor Moses

[carefreeluke 27]

Fuck sake, don't need him at all.

Currently Moses is not even that good, he still needs to work on a lot of things. Yeah, he's young and has a lot of potential but let's be honest he's not going to be given a proper chance with us anyway, he'll probably end up like every other young player. We're not going to develop him into a decent player especially with the likes of Mata, Ramires, Marin, Hazard, Oscar around. 10M is a waste of money, Moses is overrated at the moment anyway, potentially he could be a great player but we have too many players like him. He's not going to be able to fulfill his potential with us anyway, we see this all the time with young players at Chelsea, he might be given more of a chance because he's been brought in for 10M but that's about it. The way we handle our youth players is a joke. Liverpool have just spent good money on Borini, remember him? Man City are now after Sinclair...shambles these two should have been given the chance, same with a load of other youth players we've had. Our youth teams are looking promising of late as well, shame they probably won't be given the chance.

If Moses does come in, I'll probably be more annoyed than anything. Apart from the money, it's a bad move for his career and development. Stay at Wigan for a few more years lad and properly prove yourself. Of course, I'll get behind Moses and hopefully it will go well for him but I just can't see it going well. It's also going to be hard to keep all these creative/attacking players happy. Moses is definitely one too many.

[zolayes 14,489]

Fuck sake, don't need him at all.

Currently Moses is not even that good, he still needs to work on a lot of things. Yeah, he's young and has a lot of potential but let's be honest he's not going to be given a proper chance with us anyway, he'll probably end up like every other young player. We're not going to develop him into a decent player especially with the likes of Mata, Ramires, Marin, Hazard, Oscar around. 10M is a waste of money, Moses is overrated at the moment anyway, potentially he could be a great player but we have too many players like him. He's not going to be able to fulfill his potential with us anyway, we see this all the time with young players at Chelsea, he might be given more of a chance because he's been brought in for 10M but that's about it. The way we handle our youth players is a joke. Liverpool have just spent good money on Borini, remember him? Man City are now after Sinclair...shambles these two should have been given the chance, same with a load of other youth players we've had. Our youth teams are looking promising of late as well, shame they probably won't be given the chance.

If Moses does come in, I'll probably be more annoyed than anything. Apart from the money, it's a bad move for his career and development. Stay at Wigan for a few more years lad and properly prove yourself. Of course, I'll get behind Moses and hopefully it will go well for him but I just can't see it going well. It's also going to be hard to keep all these creative/attacking players happy. Moses is definitely one too many.

agree about letting Borini and Sinclair go ....such a waste

[Duppy Conqueror 1,534]

Fuck sake, don't need him at all.

Currently Moses is not even that good, he still needs to work on a lot of things. Yeah, he's young and has a lot of potential but let's be honest he's not going to be given a proper chance with us anyway, he'll probably end up like every other young player. We're not going to develop him into a decent player especially with the likes of Mata, Ramires, Marin, Hazard, Oscar around. 10M is a waste of money, Moses is overrated at the moment anyway, potentially he could be a great player but we have too many players like him. He's not going to be able to fulfill his potential with us anyway, we see this all the time with young players at Chelsea, he might be given more of a chance because he's been brought in for 10M but that's about it. The way we handle our youth players is a joke. Liverpool have just spent good money on Borini, remember him? Man City are now after Sinclair...shambles these two should have been given the chance, same with a load of other youth players we've had. Our youth teams are looking promising of late as well, shame they probably won't be given the chance.

If Moses does come in, I'll probably be more annoyed than anything. Apart from the money, it's a bad move for his career and development. Stay at Wigan for a few more years lad and properly prove yourself. Of course, I'll get behind Moses and hopefully it will go well for him but I just can't see it going well. It's also going to be hard to keep all these creative/attacking players happy. Moses is definitely one too many.

feel better now? we need someone to fill in at RW . we don`t have Carlo any longer. he doesn`t need to be 24plus before he`s given a chance..

[Chelsea? 892]

Although I miss some of our departures youngsters, some on here act as if they are better than our current squad.

[zolayes 14,489]

Although I miss some of our departures youngsters, some on here act as if they are better than our current squad.

we got 500000 for Sinclair ..we paid almostthat for him ...now valued at 5 million

borini bought for 12 million a year after we let him go

[carefreeluke 27]

feel better now? we need someone to fill in at RW . we don`t have Carlo any longer. he doesn`t need to be 24plus before he`s given a chance..

Ramires? The likes of Hazard and Marin can play there as well.

Although I miss some of our departures youngsters, some on here act as if they are better than our current squad.

Using Sinclair as an example. Looking at our squad from last season for the majority of the time I'd rather have him over Malouda, Kalou, Meireles etc for a start. Nothing better than developing your own youth players, they are always loved by the fans as well. The way we handle our youth players, is a joke.

[Severinb 309]

Football Agent 007 ‏@EPLAgent007

Chelsea should have the Moses deal sorted by Saturday. #CFC

Looks like we are getting Moses and Azpi and then we will be finished!

[Duppy Conqueror 1,534]

@Carefreeluke

Ramires not in a 4 2-3-1..he`s better played on the right edge of midfield in a 4-3-3 he`s fast but his pace is better used counter attacking. he doesn`t have the guile to get past defenders upfield where they will be pressing him and he doesn`t have the passing/crossing ability to pass around them. he can fill in when we don`t have better options like we did during the pre-season friendlies but that is all.

Hazard and Mata will interchange between LW/LM and CAM. Marin will be back up at LW/LM he could fill in at RW but more effective on the left. as could Hazard but that would take away him from the LW/CAM position.

Oscar will probably start out at RW/RM. but we need somebody else. Moses can play RW/LW/CF all pretty well and satisfies the homegrown quota. getting him in and in the 25 man first team squad would mean we could get rid of Turnbull as surely only needing him for the 8 homegrowns rule has kept him in the 25.

[Fulham Broadway 17,312]

@Carefreeluke

Ramires not in a 4 2-3-1..he`s better played on the right edge of midfield in a 4-3-3 he`s fast but his pace is better used counter attacking. he doesn`t have the guile to get past defenders upfield where they will be pressing him and he doesn`t have the passing/crossing ability to pass around them. he can fill in when we don`t have better options like we did during the pre-season friendlies but that is all.

Hazard and Mata will interchange between LW/LM and CAM. Marin will be back up at LW/LM he could fill in at RW but more effective on the left. as could Hazard but that would take away him from the LW/CAM position.

Oscar will probably start out at RW/RM. but we need somebody else. Moses can play RW/LW/CF all pretty well and satisfies the homegrown quota. getting him in and in the 25 man first team squad would mean we could get rid of Turnbull as surely only needing him for the 8 homegrowns rule has kept him in the 25.

Nice bit of analysis ther DC.

Hopefully I will see Moses in the flesh so to speak Sunday

[AndersonBLUE 819]

Moses to score Hatrick against Wigan on the 19th

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Moses to score Hatrick against Wigan on the 19th

hattrick against City you mean Can see him destroying Clichy, due to sheer body strength and pace. He did destroy Sagna in a game last season, who imo is a better fullback than Clichy. In fact he destroyed a whole lot of full backs due to his pace and power or gave them a hard time.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

hattrick against City you mean Can see him destroying Clichy, due to sheer body strength and pace. He did destroy Sagna in a game last season, who imo is a better fullback than Clichy. In fact he destroyed a whole lot of full backs due to his pace and power or gave them a hard time.

Hopefully against City but against Wigan his former club would be pretty cool (if he signs...)

[blue_everest 5]

we got 500000 for Sinclair ..we paid almostthat for him ...now valued at 5 million

borini bought for 12 million a year after we let him go

We didn't let Borini go. We offered a contract but he decided to leave.

[zolayes 14,489]

We didn't let Borini go. We offered a contract but he decided to leave.

I think you are wrong there. We wouldnt use him whatever he did.... and Carlo wanted him ...someone on the board didnt

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

well lets hope this is true, im tired of all the false reporting, wasn't my prefered choice but he is still a good signing nonetheless. we will finally have after some odd fukin years a true RW. i dont think some people remember that. how can you get all picky and cry about how isnt this and that when we had to have anelka, kalou and rambo at the rw spots!

like i said he is not my favorite choice, but i still know he is capable of great things and not a makeshift which we have to remember is the bigger picture.

[blue_everest 5]

I think you are wrong there. We wouldnt use him whatever he did.... and Carlo wanted him ...someone on the board didnt

Chelsea's contract offer was very low compared to what like of kakuta were getting. Borini wanted the better contract.

But club refused it and Carlo was ordered not to use him anymore. Borini himslef said Carlo was not happy about this.

And then he went to Swansea on loan.

[zolayes 14,489]

Chelsea's contract offer was very low compared to what like of kakuta were getting. Borini wanted the better contract.

But club refused it and Carlo was ordered not to use him anymore. Borini himslef said Carlo was not happy about this.

And then he went to Swansea on loan.

whatever way you look ... we sent him away

[blue_everest 5]

whatever way you look ... we sent him away

Well you can look at either way. I personally don't blame the club.

Swansea also offered a contract but he said he wanted to go back to Italy.

[carefreeluke 27]

@Carefreeluke

Ramires not in a 4 2-3-1..he`s better played on the right edge of midfield in a 4-3-3 he`s fast but his pace is better used counter attacking. he doesn`t have the guile to get past defenders upfield where they will be pressing him and he doesn`t have the passing/crossing ability to pass around them. he can fill in when we don`t have better options like we did during the pre-season friendlies but that is all.

Hazard and Mata will interchange between LW/LM and CAM. Marin will be back up at LW/LM he could fill in at RW but more effective on the left. as could Hazard but that would take away him from the LW/CAM position.

Oscar will probably start out at RW/RM. but we need somebody else. Moses can play RW/LW/CF all pretty well and satisfies the homegrown quota. getting him in and in the 25 man first team squad would mean we could get rid of Turnbull as surely only needing him for the 8 homegrowns rule has kept him in the 25.

I see your point but Ramires was class on the right when Di Matteo came in. I agree about Ramires not going past defenders but it's something he can work on, he has done it in the past. Ramires does provide width. Mikel, Lampard and Mata should play centrally, Mikel is starting to look a decent player, he's so much better with the ball now. If you're going to be playing Hazard, Mata and Oscar all in the same team, we're going to lack balance. It's like when we played under AVB and had Mata and Sturridge in the wide areas, there was a lack of balance and the full backs were given too much work to do. Ramires on the right will get up and down all day and make our midfield much more balanced.

[Duppy Conqueror 1,534]

I see your point but Ramires was class on the right when Di Matteo came in. I agree about Ramires not going past defenders but it's something he can work on, he has done it in the past. Ramires does provide width. Mikel, Lampard and Mata should play centrally, Mikel is starting to look a decent player, he's so much better with the ball now. If you're going to be playing Hazard, Mata and Oscar all in the same team, we're going to lack balance. It's like when we played under AVB and had Mata and Sturridge in the wide areas, there was a lack of balance and the full backs were given too much work to do. Ramires on the right will get up and down all day and make our midfield much more balanced.

i think it depends on who we are playing. if we are playing a negative team who want to park the bus on us.Ramires as much as i love him, there`s just no place in the starting team for him. he can go past 2 or 3 players but he needs to do that from deep where he can do his running off the ball. he may be able to go wide and can come back and cover attacking LB/Wingbacks but he offers very lil playing RW going forward from that position. Moses i would play ahead of him in a 4-2-3-1 when teams park the bus on us. i do personally think we will play more games with a 4-3-3 formation then both Moses and Ramires can play in the same team. Moses will be in the 25 man squad so his signing is not wasted as you earlier had suggested. when teams park the bus on us the defensive duties of a RW will be very small. he will be needed more to add some creativity and that`s why Oscar and Moses should play ahead of Rambo.

Oscar will not be someone who just stays forward wherever he is played ,he will drift back and although he won`t dive in and make highlight reel tackles he can clog passing lanes and intercept passes. his best position eventually i think with be back in CM but he can do a good shift at RW/RM for the time being. much better at crossing,passing and going past players that press him than Ramires is. so is Moses. with us being European Champions and having made quite a splash on getting attack minded players it`s fair to say that most teams will try and park the bus on us this season.