Alabama 1,992 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Let this be his last match for Chelsea.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Alabama said: Let this be his last match for Chelsea.... Given his age, his usuability as WB is not endless. I wonder who the club is seeing as his/James replacement, now when Lamptey is gone and Sterling? I'm not sure about him. I hope it won't be the same as LB saga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Given his age, his usuability as WB is not endless. I wonder who the club is seeing as his/James replacement, now when Lamptey is gone and Sterling? I'm not sure about him. I hope it won't be the same as LB saga. We can promote a talented youth player from the academy and then look elsewhere for a solid back up for James... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Livramento is the answer. If not, he will leave like Lamptey did Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Vegetable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 03/01/2021 at 7:53 PM, killer1257 said: Livramento is the answer. If not, he will leave like Lamptey did Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk And I suppose that will be the end of the world, like how we just ceased to exist and everything went tits up when Lamptey left??! Behave. Hes done well but he’s hardly been Dani Alves or Cafu with his 1 G 1 A in 11 games and a handful of good performances. Livramento is a good prospect but again there is clearly a pecking order and James and Azpi undoubtedly are better and ahead of him. A loan would suit him more than anything. As it would of for Lamptey but fair play to the guy going and playing somewhere else regularly but again is he a huge miss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 And I suppose that will be the end of the world, like how we just ceased to exist and everything went tits up when Lamptey left??! Behave. Hes done well but he’s hardly been Dani Alves or Cafu with his 1 G 1 A in 11 games and a handful of good performances. Livramento is a good prospect but again there is clearly a pecking order and James and Azpi undoubtedly are better and ahead of him. A loan would suit him more than anything. As it would of for Lamptey but fair play to the guy going and playing somewhere else regularly but again is he a huge miss? Btw, Lamptey is the fastest player in europe(broke davies record) and is also probably much better suited in a back three as a wingback,which none of our fullbacks are. Lamptey is one of the most versatile RBs there is. Could easily play right winger. RJ and Azpi can't do that. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 24 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Btw, Lamptey is the fastest player in europe(broke davies record) and is also probably much better suited in a back three as a wingback,which none of our fullbacks are. Lamptey is one of the most versatile RBs there is. Could easily play right winger. RJ and Azpi can't do that. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Usain Bolt was fastest man alive but still a shite footballer for the 2 games he played or whatever. While I think Lamptey has gone on and done pretty decently with Brighton, some of James’ earlier performances in the season were much better and with more consistency, he will defos be the clubs starting RB for 10 years plus. And he can easily play as a RWB and probably RCB if necessary think he did in u23s (as can Azpi), so whats your point? He also played CM for Wigan and Frank said he could handle it later in his career. So Lamptey can maybe play right winger? Although he plays right back/wingback for Brighton? Thats like saying a horse could maybe be a unicorn? Until it happens, it isnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Usain Bolt was fastest man alive but still a shite footballer for the 2 games he played or whatever. While I think Lamptey has gone on and done pretty decently with Brighton, some of James’ earlier performances in the season were much better and with more consistency, he will defos be the clubs starting RB for 10 years plus. And he can easily play as a RWB and probably RCB if necessary think he did in u23s (as can Azpi), so whats your point? He also played CM for Wigan and Frank said he could handle it later in his career. So Lamptey can maybe play right winger? Although he plays right back/wingback for Brighton? Thats like saying a horse could maybe be a unicorn? Until it happens, it isnt.If it was me, I would rather have RJ and Lamptey than RJ and Azpi. Azpi's time is up.Lamptey's time is just starting and because RJ is very injury prone and probably will always stay that way, having Lamptey who has completely different characteristics than RJ would have been insane and very intelligent. Lamptey is a very rare player. RJ is slow, Lamptey is fast. RJ is physically very strong, but not mobile. Lamptey is the opposite. Weak, but very mobile and can dribble past players very easily. Both are good crossers. Having both would have been a dream of a coach because you could play much more formations. I did not say in my post that Lamptey should start ahead of RJ. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, killer1257 said: If it was me, I would rather have RJ and Lamptey than RJ and Azpi. Azpi's time is up. Lamptey's time is just starting and because RJ is very injury prone and probably will always stay that way, having Lamptey who has completely different characteristics than RJ would have been insane and very intelligent. Lamptey is a very rare player. RJ is slow, Lamptey is fast. RJ is physically very strong, but not mobile. Lamptey is the opposite. Weak, but very mobile and can dribble past players very easily. Both are good crossers. Having both would have been a dream of a coach because you could play much more formations. I did not say in my post that Lamptey should start ahead of RJ. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Both are young players, you dont rotate in defense that often unless you have to so Lamptey even if 2nd choices would hardly play seeing as Reece is the obvious first choice RB based on monutes this season. Thats why its better having a more experienced back up. Someone who’s proven and reliable to a degree. Azpi has only made 6 PL starts this season. In 17 games. He did the right thing leaving and the club also did the right thing letting him go in some capacity as he has to play regularly to further his career. Azpi’s time as a starter is up but as a back up for cup games or lesser teams, he will be more than adequate. Is James really that injury prone? Or slow? Would have to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 6 hours ago, killer1257 said: If it was me, I would rather have RJ and Lamptey than RJ and Azpi. Azpi's time is up. TBF and as @OneMoSalah mentioned above, it's difficult to have 2 young players - only 1 year separates them - vying for the same position in the defence. Unless, there's injury, suspension or just wanting to rest a player, it's unlikely the manager will ever rotate much in a position where you want consistency in the backline. In an ideal world, the club would have loved to keep both James and Lamptey but Lamptey chose to leave because he knew and saw the club chose James to be our #1 right back for the future. Azpi wasn't the issue or anything since he's already getting on and he's not the future for us. This is always gonna be a problem when we have an excellent academy with all the talented players. We aren't going to be able to play/use everyone and some are bound to slip through the door. Also for his sake, hope it doesn't turn out to be an issue but Lamptey has been struggling with a hamstring problem at Brighton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I expected him to regress but he barely put foot wrong this season. Also, apart from City game he didn't play in any of our losses this season. Definitely RCB with 3 in the back is his best position. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 1 Ron Harris 795 2 Peter Bonetti 729 3 John Terry 717 4 Frank Lampard 648 5 John Hollins 592 6 Petr Cech 494 7 Dennis Wise 445 8 Steve Clarke 421 9 Kerry Dixon 420 10 Eddie McCreadie 410 11 John Bumstead 409 12 Cesar Azpilicueta 409 Will go into top10 Chelsea players with most games in the history probably next week. Edited February 25, 2021 by NikkiCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: 1 Ron Harris 795 2 Peter Bonetti 729 3 John Terry 717 4 Frank Lampard 648 5 John Hollins 592 6 Petr Cech 494 7 Dennis Wise 445 8 Steve Clarke 421 9 Kerry Dixon 420 10 Eddie McCreadie 410 11 John Bumstead 409 12 Cesar Azpilicueta 409 Will go into top10 Chelsea players with most games in the history probably next week. Could end the season in 8th if he plays all the remaining 13 league games or 13 games in all competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jason said: Could end the season in 8th if he plays all the remaining 13 league games or 13 games in all competitions. I initially read this post on the homepage and thought you were talking about league position. bigbluewillie and Jase 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tomo said: I initially read this post on the homepage and thought you were talking about league position. Lampard is not here anymore 🤭 12 minutes ago, Jason said: Could end the season in 8th if he plays all the remaining 13 league games or 13 games in all competitions. And 7th next season. But cannot see him going further because I think next season will be his last. But overall amazing achievement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Lampard is not here anymore 🤭 And 7th next season. But cannot see him going further because I think next season will be his last. But overall amazing achievement. I think his number of appearances will tail off but I wouldn't be surprised to see Dave here for another 3-4 years and play a similar bench role to what Milner does for the Dippers. Having the odd highly experienced player who can play multiple positions is really handy. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, King Kante said: I think his number of appearances will tail off but I wouldn't be surprised to see Dave here for another 3-4 years and play a similar bench role to what Milner does for the Dippers. Having the odd highly experienced player who can play multiple positions is really handy. Azpi is 32 this summer with one year left on contract. You know what we do with older players. Even if we offer him one year extension will he accept it? Because clubs from Italy and Spain would give him longer contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Azpi is 32 this summer with one year left on contract. You know what we do with older players. Even if we offer him one year extension will he accept it? Because clubs from Italy and Spain would give him longer contracts. Personally, I think he will just go onto rolling contracts for 2-3 years in a similar way JT and SFL did at the end of their careers. Maybe he goes to Spain but I have a feeling he may end up staying in England after he retires as by all accounts he is very settled here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Here's what Azpi said recently when asked about his future... https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/kepa-backed-to-clear-Chelsea-bumps-contribute-a-lot-as/kzue9rhtx7eo1djo3yp1zgk5q “I am very happy at Chelsea. I don't like to look too far ahead. “I enjoy the moment, I have the ambition to leave the club at as high a level as I can and I am going to train and play with the hope of continuing to do important things. Hopefully that lasts a long time.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 57 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Azpi is 32 this summer with one year left on contract. You know what we do with older players. Even if we offer him one year extension will he accept it? Because clubs from Italy and Spain would give him longer contracts. But have you forgotten what the club did with Luiz and Willian? They gave the former a 2-year deal and then tried to give the latter a 2-year deal as well. If Azpi is happy to play as backup, then I don't see any harm of keeping him around. He's well settled in London, well liked/respected in the dressing room and done overall a good job as captain on and off the field. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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