CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 If he doesn't switch to the right next season I think he never will and we'll buy Clyne or sth.Tbh, I think that ship has already sailed, mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Tbh, I think that ship has already sailed, mate.Beginning to think so too. Nothing wrong with that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Beginning to think so too. Nothing wrong with that either.I that is because, with his unique style of defensing, Jose and the management think he's a better defender on the left than he is on the right, which is kind of true, imo. Tomo and CurlyHairLikeLuiz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I that is because, with his unique style of defensing, Jose and the management think he's a better defender on the left than he is on the right, which is kind of true, imo. I think the biggest clue is we are getting linked with RBs and not LBs (Cresswell aside but he will clearly be nothing beyond cover) is the biggest clue Cesar has LB on lockdown until he declines. For all this Jose loves Ivanovic talks he is 100 times more likely to lose his place next season than Azpi. CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Jose is playing Azpi on the left because he's nothing special in terms of attacking abilities. But he's most certainly the best defending fullback in the world. Combine that with the fact that Eden plays on the left thus making that side very fragile it's difficult to see Cesar moving to the right side anytime soon. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 IMO its all because of Eden. One FB will be more offensive with more hardworking winger, the other more defensive with more free winger.Unfortunely for Azpi, Hazard is on our left side and Azpi is best defender we have, plus his attacking is not something we would miss. All that combined, it makes sense why Mou is doing. However Hazard would benefit alot from more offensive fullback (like Marcelo for example), but team would be hit on counters.Only question is who will eventualy replace Iva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted June 12, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted June 12, 2015 IMO its all because of Eden.One FB will be more offensive with more hardworking winger, the other more defensive with more free winger.Unfortunely for Azpi, Hazard is on our left side and Azpi is best defender we have, plus his attacking is not something we would miss. All that combined, it makes sense why Mou is doing. However Hazard would benefit alot from more offensive fullback (like Marcelo for example), but team would be hit on counters.Only question is who will eventualy replace Iva.I disagree. I think Terry is the main reason why Azpi plays on the left. Hazard's free(ish) role and not so great defensive abilities do play a part in this aswell but Terry's vulnerability against 1 on 1 situations is the main reason imo. Peace., DYC., mikeholiday and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Cesar Azpilicueta to fight for Spain Euro 2016 place in upcoming Chelsea season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 What's with this Azpi not good in attack? I remember some killer crosses from him before Jose put him on full defensice mod on the lb. He's also pacy and can beat a man. Great at going forward imo bit obviously as a RB not LB. Azpinator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Diego Costa's goal against Liverpool showed what Azpi is capable of in attack. Shame he doesnt get the chance to do it more often. Tomo, iseah100 and Azpinator 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethos1 802 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 What's with this Azpi not good in attack? I remember some killer crosses from him before Jose put him on full defensice mod on the lb. He's also pacy and can beat a man. Great at going forward imo bit obviously as a RB not LB.And that's why he should play as a RB, he's only good for defending when he's playing on the left. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Diego Costa's goal against Liverpool showed what Azpi is capable of in attack. Shame he doesnt get the chance to do it more often.Finally someone on the same page, he isn't incapable in attack he's told to stay back because Ivanovic basically plays like a winger. Polo7 and Azpinator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Finally someone on the same page, he isn't incapable in attack he's told to stay back because Ivanovic basically plays like a winger.And because JT doesn't have the pace to cover for him if he goes forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 And that's why he should play as a RB, he's only good for defending when he's playing on the left.With Ivanovic 32 in February I think we all know who is our next RB. Problem is that we need to sort out the LB position before that though. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 With Ivanovic 32 in February I think we all know who is our next RB. Problem is that we need to sort out the LB position before that though.And Im thinking it should be sooner rather than later. Id also swap Cahill out this season - either with a TOP CB we get this season or Zouma.But we are going to be in deep shit IMHO as with 3 of our back 4 on 1 year contracts (with Filip 4) and with JT more than likely being his last season with him not wanting to go out like Drogs.Im of thoughts wanting to get a young back 4 that will be together for years (Im still dreaming Varane) I would prefer them instead of buying 20/30 year olds who will only be around a year or 2 and we wouldnt make our money back on them.With our defence being such a big part of our game am I the only one thinking we could/should be looking at upgrading as a priority? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 And Im thinking it should be sooner rather than later. Id also swap Cahill out this season - either with a TOP CB we get this season or Zouma.But we are going to be in deep shit IMHO as with 3 of our back 4 on 1 year contracts (with Filip 4) and with JT more than likely being his last season with him not wanting to go out like Drogs.Im of thoughts wanting to get a young back 4 that will be together for years (Im still dreaming Varane) I would prefer them instead of buying 20/30 year olds who will only be around a year or 2 and we wouldnt make our money back on them.With our defence being such a big part of our game am I the only one thinking we could/should be looking at upgrading as a priority?You need experience in defence. Azpi-Zouma-Varane-Luis for me would not have the required levels of experience.Plus I think Mou plays Azpi on the left to lock down that flank to relieve Hazard of his defensive duties. If we were to get someone like, say, Reus, I'd say we'd be the first team in many years to use proper fullbacks and Ivanovic has shown he can defend too. He is instructed to press up due to the offensive deficiencies of Willian on the wing. That way the attackers are more free to attack because the defenders only come up for corners. Accompanied with a likely shift to 4-3-3 to accomodate RLC later in his development ie in one or two seasons' time, it will be one of the most disciplined teams we've seen. Of course, both fullbacks do have that attacking element in the locker, if needed. Oh, and the final step would be that when Terry retires we go more high line, Matic sits in front of the centre backs, RLC recycles possession (he has good distribution), Reus and Cesc create, Hazard drives the ball forward and Costa is the killer. Reus cuts in and Cesc is that creator who alternates from the centre to the left side.But I'd expect the real shape, accomodating a true RW like Reus or what have you would be - (goal) Courtois Zouma Terry Ivanovic Azpi --- Matic --- RLC Cesc Reus Costa HazardBy the way, regarding Terry. As a striker most of the time you need pace, but with a CB you don't, and that's why as long as he can distribute and tackle effectively he is well worth keeping, and his leadership skills take the team to a whole other level, which is why Cahill will never be able to be the senior centre back and in the end Ivanovic will probably parent Zouma. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I understand all you say and agree with alot of it but altho I cant see Filipe being around long (I dont think Mou trusts him) I cant see how you can say Dave/Varane/Zouma/Filipe dont have the required levels of experience. OK Happy might not but to see him paired with Varane would be my fave thing since Cescy joining. And the other 3 have regular week in week out playing at the highest level. And Id be happy to play them against most teams (Filipe is better going forward than defending and could be upgraded IMHO)The problems with Bane to me is his speed,postitioning ball play. With our use of playing on the break Daves great and can bomb up n down (Filipe too) but Banes like a tank. Opposition dont mind him having the ball. What hes good at is being in the air. For crosses and set pieces having him (Like Happy) there is a big target to aim at. But he goes forward alot and as well as getting lost he hasn't got the speed to get back in time so it exposes an already nervous Cahill. I like that hes strong but he also gets TOO headstrong at times. I wouldn't have complained if he had got a red card when he was practicing his UFC moves against Everton with McCarthy. Put his arms round him (Looked to me like he was doing a Suarez - or giving him a love bite) and pushed his forhead into his face. Thats not the sort of a temper a supposed leader needs. Strong yeah but not to the point its gonna cost us.Cahills not been right for alot of this season. Hes not looked good physically. Hes looked thin/gaunt/pale, very similar to Schurrle actually. Hes been shakey when the ball comes into the area and its shown more when Zouma has been played.The formation that Id love to see is more a 4-3-3 TeboDave/Varane/Happy/New LB Matic Cescy PogbaNew RAM Eden The BeastWith Matic as a normal holding MF we got Pogba as a fast strong B to B and Cescy as the man with the plan. We got dave and the new fast LB that can run up good with crosses and Dave crossing on his right foot.I wouldnt mind keeping both or either Willian/Oscar cause theyd be great options I just think both can be upgraded on if we get the chance to. Theres been a few names mentioned but we all know we do need a TOP one. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I understand all you say and agree with alot of it but altho I cant see Filipe being around long (I dont think Mou trusts him) I cant see how you can say Dave/Varane/Zouma/Filipe dont have the required levels of experience. OK Happy might not but to see him paired with Varane would be my fave thing since Cescy joining. And the other 3 have regular week in week out playing at the highest level. And Id be happy to play them against most teams (Filipe is better going forward than defending and could be upgraded IMHO)The problems with Bane to me is his speed,postitioning ball play. With our use of playing on the break Daves great and can bomb up n down (Filipe too) but Banes like a tank. Opposition dont mind him having the ball. What hes good at is being in the air. For crosses and set pieces having him (Like Happy) there is a big target to aim at. But he goes forward alot and as well as getting lost he hasn't got the speed to get back in time so it exposes an already nervous Cahill. I like that hes strong but he also gets TOO headstrong at times. I wouldn't have complained if he had got a red card when he was practicing his UFC moves against Everton with McCarthy. Put his arms round him (Looked to me like he was doing a Suarez - or giving him a love bite) and pushed his forhead into his face. Thats not the sort of a temper a supposed leader needs. Strong yeah but not to the point its gonna cost us.Cahills not been right for alot of this season. Hes not looked good physically. Hes looked thin/gaunt/pale, very similar to Schurrle actually. Hes been shakey when the ball comes into the area and its shown more when Zouma has been played.The formation that Id love to see is more a 4-3-3 TeboDave/Varane/Happy/New LB Matic Cescy PogbaNew RAM Eden The BeastWith Matic as a normal holding MF we got Pogba as a fast strong B to B and Cescy as the man with the plan. We got dave and the new fast LB that can run up good with crosses and Dave crossing on his right foot.I wouldnt mind keeping both or either Willian/Oscar cause theyd be great options I just think both can be upgraded on if we get the chance to. Theres been a few names mentioned but we all know we do need a TOP one.Something like this would be amazing, almost too amazing. I would advocate for Sterling on the right wing, so the XI would be:CourtoisAzpilicueta - Zouma - Varane - LuisMaticFabregas - PogbaSterling - Costa - HazardAmazing XI tbh. Won't ever happen though. mediator and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 We share the dream lolBut if we dont aim high bruv whats the point?? Might as well go mid table instead with no stress or worries and use all our academy lads. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Diego Costa's goal against Liverpool showed what Azpi is capable of in attack. Shame he doesnt get the chance to do it more often.Finally someone on the same page, he isn't incapable in attack he's told to stay back because Ivanovic basically plays like a winger.I also remember him assisting Torres at Galatasaray. But it was probably the most open someone has been against us in the last two years ... which of course meant we just drew 1-1 a match we should have won 5-0 in the first half.edit - found it Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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