Oscar

[The Skipper 20,609]

I do think Fabregas and Pjanic could work, depending on the style of football we want to play. Of course, we'd need a great DM behind them. Something like what Barcelona used to do. Xavi = Fabregas, Pjanic = Iniesta. Again, that does mean that we require a different style of football but it could possibly work. Modern game does require some sort of engine in midfield though. It's necessary to have that sort of option in the squad. Against teams where we'll have lots of possession though, I wouldn't be against fielding the two together. 

Selling Oscar for Pjanic is wise because at the very least it gives us a proper creative midfielder. We can then build around Fabregas, Pjanic etc. to compliment both/either with a strong B2B midfielder, a very good DM (could be Matic but I don't know), and maybe someone like RLC to fill in as a squad player. That'd be a great midfield core. Fabregas, Pjanic, x, x, RLC... With the x's being the aforementioned sort of players. Something like Nainggolan and Rubén Neves?

[chelseafan26 293]

30 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

I do think Fabregas and Pjanic could work, depending on the style of football we want to play. Of course, we'd need a great DM behind them. Something like what Barcelona used to do. Xavi = Fabregas, Pjanic = Iniesta. Again, that does mean that we require a different style of football but it could possibly work. Modern game does require some sort of engine in midfield though. It's necessary to have that sort of option in the squad. Against teams where we'll have lots of possession though, I wouldn't be against fielding the two together. 

Selling Oscar for Pjanic is wise because at the very least it gives us a proper creative midfielder. We can then build around Fabregas, Pjanic etc. to compliment both/either with a strong B2B midfielder, a very good DM (could be Matic but I don't know), and maybe someone like RLC to fill in as a squad player. That'd be a great midfield core. Fabregas, Pjanic, x, x, RLC... With the x's being the aforementioned sort of players. Something like Nainggolan and Rubén Neves?

Mate, while I love the theory, the reality of it would be shocking, in my opinion.

Barcelona had a system to go along with xavi and iniesta. More importantly, Barcelona had Messi. Take out messi and you wou will see a massive difference in them. Emulating the best team to ever have played is a dangerous path to take and one which we definitely should not be going down. Cesc, Pjanic, Matic still does not solve our problems. We will again be over run. We will again have to face teams match after match who bully us on the ocunter while having no answer to any of them. Another thing that this midfield does not solve is physicality. Matic is a softie, despite his size. Pjanic and cesc are well... lesser said the better. 

Honestly speaking, going into the season which this midfield 3 would be really disappointing and an indication of not to expect much. On the other hand, if we replace either of pjanic/cesc with radja, we have a well balanced (-ish) team.

[The Skipper 20,609]

25 minutes ago, chelseafan26 said:

Mate, while I love the theory, the reality of it would be shocking, in my opinion.

Barcelona had a system to go along with xavi and iniesta. More importantly, Barcelona had Messi. Take out messi and you wou will see a massive difference in them. Emulating the best team to ever have played is a dangerous path to take and one which we definitely should not be going down. Cesc, Pjanic, Matic still does not solve our problems. We will again be over run. We will again have to face teams match after match who bully us on the ocunter while having no answer to any of them. Another thing that this midfield does not solve is physicality. Matic is a softie, despite his size. Pjanic and cesc are well... lesser said the better. 

Honestly speaking, going into the season which this midfield 3 would be really disappointing and an indication of not to expect much. On the other hand, if we replace either of pjanic/cesc with radja, we have a well balanced (-ish) team.

Yeah, I'm well aware that we'd get steamrolled by certain teams hence why I highlighted that it's a must to bring in a great B2B midfielder like Nainggolan, who we can then alternate with someone like Fabregas or Pjanic in games where we can somewhat get outmuscled in midfield. What I was trying to get at is that it would be good to have the option of all three, not only for the sake of playing them together - if either Fabregas or Pjanic get off form, we'll have a great option in replacing either. Competition is good, it could bring the best out of both. 

My main point really is that getting in Pjanic for Oscar would improve the options in the squad significantly (as long as we also go out to purchase a good energetic, physical midfielder like Radja). 

[Styles 9,790]

9 hours ago, Robguima said:

How the fuck would I know?! You are the ones pretending to know things; like how much the will of the current tampon manager will affect next season.

 

So you don't know why he was dropped but you're disputing the notion he was dropped because he's shit - which is, funnily enough, the most plausible reason considering his form and fitness. You make no sense. Just admit you're arguing for no reason and keep it moving.

[robsblubot 3,595]

On April 21, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Styles said:

So you don't know why he was dropped but you're disputing the notion he was dropped because he's shit - which is, funnily enough, the most plausible reason considering his form and fitness. You make no sense. Just admit you're arguing for no reason and keep it moving.

Yes I am because to me he is only one of poor players in the squad and also far from the poorest one - market agrees.

I could prove with numbers that you are wrong, but you'd just dismiss it for no reason.

we will see who is right soon enough.

oscar will be with us or another top club, say juve... The horror!!!

By your logic the pickings of the tampon manager is the law of the land and that's just crazy.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

8 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Yeah, I'm well aware that we'd get steamrolled by certain teams hence why I highlighted that it's a must to bring in a great B2B midfielder like Nainggolan, who we can then alternate with someone like Fabregas or Pjanic in games where we can somewhat get outmuscled in midfield. What I was trying to get at is that it would be good to have the option of all three, not only for the sake of playing them together - if either Fabregas or Pjanic get off form, we'll have a great option in replacing either. Competition is good, it could bring the best out of both. 

My main point really is that getting in Pjanic for Oscar would improve the options in the squad significantly (as long as we also go out to purchase a good energetic, physical midfielder like Radja). 

There are so many options. We don't know if Fabregas will be central player in the team. If he does play in front of the defenders he has to have 2 B2B midfielders ahead. I'm thinking that either Nainggolan or longer shot Vidal plus one young midfielder. Riechedly Bazoer ? What do you think of him ? I read that we're linked with him. That's nice age gap between Nainggolan/Vidal and him.

For the Oscar place I'd love to bring James. Either him or Isco are out from Madrid and pairing James with Hazard is something that should make whole football world excited.

 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Am I the only one who wants him to score 20+ goals next season as a second striker under Conte just for the laughs?!  

[chelseafan26 293]

On 4/21/2016 at 5:06 PM, The Skipper said:

Yeah, I'm well aware that we'd get steamrolled by certain teams hence why I highlighted that it's a must to bring in a great B2B midfielder like Nainggolan, who we can then alternate with someone like Fabregas or Pjanic in games where we can somewhat get outmuscled in midfield. What I was trying to get at is that it would be good to have the option of all three, not only for the sake of playing them together - if either Fabregas or Pjanic get off form, we'll have a great option in replacing either. Competition is good, it could bring the best out of both. 

My main point really is that getting in Pjanic for Oscar would improve the options in the squad significantly (as long as we also go out to purchase a good energetic, physical midfielder like Radja). 

I get your point now. But I would like RLC to be given that role. We will be without any european distractions next season, so we will be playing somewhere between 40-50 matches. Its the perfect time to give a major squad role to RLC as a back up to cesc. Buy a B2B like radja, and have RLC, baker and Pasalic as the back ups to them (cesc-matic-radja).

As for Oscar, getting a 35 year old scott parker would be an upgrade on Oscar. I seriously think the limited oppurtunities that RLC would get because of the inclusion of Pjanic will hurt us in the long run. RLC has shown he is here for the long run and he has the capability. Lets get him to build on this rather than playing him in dead rubber in a team where 6-7 players seem like they cant be bothered.

[Fernando 6,585]

5 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

Am I the only one who wants him to score 20+ goals next season as a second striker under Conte just for the laughs?!  

He could be like dybala. ?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

5 hours ago, Fernando said:

He could be like dybala. ?

I accept nothing less than last season's Tevez!

[Essien19 1,415]

 

[Styles 9,790]

27 minutes ago, Essien19 said:

 

It's happening!

[LDN Blue 7,903]

7 minutes ago, Styles said:

It's happening!

 I'll drink to it when it does!

Until then, who knows if we can trust this board to do what's right  

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

1 hour ago, Essien19 said:

 

[the wes 7,212]

1 hour ago, Essien19 said:

 

Sell Oscar to a Chinese club we get more for him