Oscar

[robsblubot 3,595]

You guys just don't get it.

oscar does a job - it may be a stupid job - but it is his and his alone.

Oscar is Mikel... he keeps things ticking ... His game is just too subtle for some folks here.

now I'd begin my sandwich analogy, but just don't have the stomach for it

[Jase 43,479]

Seriously? After 3 1/2 years of inconsistency, people are still defending Oscar? No wonder we are where we are right now. Too many inadequate players in the squad.

[blues.bridge 343]

8 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

 

9 minutes ago, Jason said:

Seriously? After 3 1/2 years of inconsistency, people are still defending Oscar? No wonder we are where we are right now. Too many inadequate players in the squad.

yep. oscar is inconsistency, but i think there are more other player to sales before him, what about: dingibomgi,ramires,mikel,falcao,pedro,remy,cuadrado,salah,atsu,marin,moses, van ginkel,omereu, piazon, wallace, and maybe also others!

[Jase 43,479]

3 minutes ago, blues.bridge said:

 

yep. oscar is inconsistency, but i think there are more other player to sales before him, what about: dingibomgi,ramires,mikel,falcao,pedro,remy,cuadrado,salah,atsu,marin,moses, van ginkel,omereu, piazon, wallace, and maybe also others!

Still defending Oscar...

[blues.bridge 343]

13 minutes ago, Jason said:

Still defending Oscar...

i'm not defending Oscar, i'm just saying that there are more others more than useless players for us!

[Spike 12,049]

9 minutes ago, Jason said:

Still defending Oscar...

Still using ellipses...

Well you can't argue that some of the players listed would have to be sold before Oscar.

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Spike said:

Still using ellipses...

Well you can't argue that some of the players listed would have to be sold before Oscar.

There is that but most of the players named above are a bunch of loanees anyway and they aren't in the first team. They should be sold once and for all but I don't see why they should be higher on the 'Must Sell' list than Oscar, especially when he is likely to attract more and better interest from other big sides (c'mon Juve!).

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

I still think selling Oscar would be stupid, rather bring in a proper number 10 and keep Oscar as depth, can't hurt to have some depth afterall.

[Jase 43,479]

48 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

I still think selling Oscar would be stupid, rather bring in a proper number 10 and keep Oscar as depth, can't hurt to have some depth afterall.

Oscar cannot even perform consistently when he's playing week in week out. So, what makes you think he'll do that as a squad player? Keeping a player for depth is one thing but keeping one who is a deadwood is another.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

14 minutes ago, Jason said:

Oscar cannot even perform consistently when he's playing week in week out. So, what makes you think he'll do that as a squad player? Keeping a player for depth is one thing but keeping one who is a deadwood is another.

So, which number 10 the club should buy who would have a good to very good performance each time he's called up to fill the boots of the first choice number 10 and who wouldn't complain about sitting on the bench for quite sometime, considering also that the club would need to buy the first choice number 10?

I don't like Oscar, but he would be a decent option for depth and he shouldn't be the first player to be offloaded. Ivanovic, Ramires, Falcao, Mikel all should be sold before Oscar.

[blues.bridge 343]

11 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

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exactly, without forget several loanes that should be sold: cuadrado,moses,salah, van ginkel,marin,piazon,wallace, omereu,piazon .... etc etc

[chelseamabz 17]

Oscar stats last year 35 games played, 7 goals, 9 assists. Not hugely impressive, but not the "pile of rubbish" that some are eluding to on the board. Stats this year 22 GP, 5 goals, 5 assists and a handful of sub appearances. I have to admit he is frustrating at times but definitely is a valuable player for the team. 

[Jase 43,479]

7 hours ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

So, which number 10 the club should buy who would have a good to very good performance each time he's called up to fill the boots of the first choice number 10 and who wouldn't complain about sitting on the bench for quite sometime, considering also that the club would need to buy the first choice number 10?

I don't like Oscar, but he would be a decent option for depth and he shouldn't be the first player to be offloaded. Ivanovic, Ramires, Falcao, Mikel all should be sold before Oscar.

(1) Do we need to continue playing a system featuring a No.10? (2) I didn't say we have to get a No.10 who will perform miracle every time he plays - be it from the start or from the bench. We just need someone who is consistent and certainly more so than Oscar, who after 3 1/2 years here only seems to play well once in every 5 games or so. That's extremely poor standard for a big club like us.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

(1) Do we need to continue playing a system featuring a No.10? (2) I didn't say we have to get a No.10 who will perform miracle every time he plays - be it from the start or from the bench. We just need someone who is consistent and certainly more so than Oscar, who after 3 1/2 years here only seems to play well once in every 5 games or so. That's extremely poor standard for a big club like us.

Well, i thought the whole conversation was based on the fact that we'll continue to play a system with a number 10, Oscar being one 

Neither did i, Oscar can occasionally put in a good performance, how good, that changes depending from personal views, and that's also why he'd have a proper very good number 10 playing before him in the pecking order.

That said, wouldn't you rather the club gets its act together in defence and midfield before getting rid of the only number 10 at the club?

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

Well, i thought the whole conversation was based on the fact that we'll continue to play a system with a number 10, Oscar being one 

Neither did i, Oscar can occasionally put in a good performance, how good, that changes depending from personal views, and that's also why he'd have a proper very good number 10 playing before him in the pecking order.

That said, wouldn't you rather the club gets its act together in defence and midfield before getting rid of the only number 10 at the club?

If the next manager isn't going to play a system that includes a No.10, then why bother keeping Oscar? Better off selling him immediately and if we have to, we can always use Hazard, Willian, Fabregas etc in that position.