Oscar

[TheIceMan 596]

The Hatered towards Oscar is blinding!!!!

[didierforever 7,349]

Fatigue isn't the issue. Ability is.

are u kidding me.

"Oscar's talent is undeniable, next season he will go up another level again, last season on the whole he was very good, next season he will be even better, he gave us goals and assists and was involved in most of our best passing moves last season, easily our most underrated player, reminds me of drogba in his early days.

and i believe it will end the same way as Drogba with Oscar leaving in 10 years time as a Chelsea legend"

:lol:

[Adnane 1,101]

Dude, i'm telling you the guy has taken part in more games than messi and CR7 since 2012 and you're still denting the facts.

I can't do anything for you if you cab't notice how good he makes us btw, you're just blind when it comes to Oscar, he was superb and instrumental in our first good months, he was injured and tired after that, facts.

[didierforever 7,349]

Dude, i'm telling you the guy has taken part in more games than messi and CR7 since 2012 and you're still denting the facts.

I can't do anything for you if you cab't notice how good he makes us btw, you're just blind when it comes to Oscar, he was superb and instrumental in our first good months, he was injured and tired after that, facts.

and i am giving you the facts, infact i have already given the facts in the turan thread of how many MINUTES oscar, willian, hazard, JT and matic have played for club and county. for club oscar ranks 5th. if we count iva, i am sure he would rank 6th.

those are hard facts. go on and check them instead of throwing random numbers of friendlies. if friendlies are to be included then so should the european qualifiers and wc qualifiers which i did not take into account for the said players. in the end, he has played no more than the rest.

yes, you are right. i am blind. more than half the chelsea fans want an upgrade yet i am the one blind.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

so the fact that people are including "oscar played in the 2012 olympics as well as 2013 confed and 2014 WC" means what exactly? nice selfie buddy.

means he has never had a pre-season, what is so hard to understand? even in 2011 he played in the U20 WC and missed out on yet another pre-season.

[didierforever 7,349]

means he has never had a pre-season, what is so hard to understand? even in 2011 he played in the U20 WC and missed out on yet another pre-season.

they are not including pre-season into their argument. they are including "MINUTES that he has played" and citing it as an excuse. read.

[didierforever 7,349]

Dude, i'm telling you the guy has taken part in more games than messi and CR7 since 2012 and you're still denting the facts.

I can't do anything for you if you cab't notice how good he makes us btw, you're just blind when it comes to Oscar, he was superb and instrumental in our first good months, he was injured and tired after that, facts.

before things get any more ridiculous

here are the ACTUAL stats for clubs.

http://www.transfermarkt.com/oscar/leistungsdaten/spieler/85314/plus/?saison=2012

http://www.transfermarkt.com/lionel-messi/leistungsdaten/spieler/28003/plus/?saison=2012

http://www.transfermarkt.com/cristiano-ronaldo/leistungsdaten/spieler/8198/plus/?saison=2012

oscar - 10095

messi - 12878

CR - 13291

these stats are only for clubs.

if oscar played WC, so did they.

if oscar played friendlies for brazil, they played qualifiers (euro and WC)

if oscar played olympics, CR played euros.

please stop giving random stats and excuses. the minutes that oscar has played are not even greater than EH, matic, iva.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

they are not including pre-season into their argument. they are including "MINUTES that he has played" and citing it as an excuse. read.

no not having a pre-season is a huge reason for burning out.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

before things get any more ridiculous

here are the ACTUAL stats for clubs.

http://www.transfermarkt.com/oscar/leistungsdaten/spieler/85314/plus/?saison=2012

http://www.transfermarkt.com/lionel-messi/leistungsdaten/spieler/28003/plus/?saison=2012

http://www.transfermarkt.com/cristiano-ronaldo/leistungsdaten/spieler/8198/plus/?saison=2012

oscar - 10095

messi - 12878

CR - 13291

these stats are only for clubs.

if oscar played WC, so did they.

if oscar played friendlies for brazil, they played qualifiers (euro and WC)

if oscar played olympics, CR played euros.

please stop giving random stats and excuses. the minutes that oscar has played are not even greater than EH, matic, iva.

if Oscar hasnt had a pre-season for 4 years in a row neither have... Oh wait.

[didierforever 7,349]

if Oscar hasnt had a pre-season for 4 years in a row so have... Oh wait.

Dude, i'm telling you the guy has taken part in more games than messi and CR7 since 2012 and you're still denting the facts.

which part of adnane's post was related to pre-seaosn?? :wank2:

like i said "READ". you are the one talking about pre-season which i am not against. but citing "playing more minutes and games than so and so players" (even though the basis of it is wrong) is what i am ridiculing. READ.

[Adnane 1,101]

Ah okay, so youre gonna point out the only post where i dont talk about pre season and assume its my whole point ?

So childish of you, go back and read my first post, see if i wasnt talking about preseason.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Dude, i'm telling you the guy has taken part in more games than messi and CR7 since 2012 and you're still denting the facts.

which part of adnane's post was related to pre-seaosn?? :wank2:

like i said "READ". you are the one talking about pre-season which i am not against. but citing "playing more minutes and games than so and so players" (even though the basis of it is wrong) is what i am ridiculing. READ.

who said i was refering to anyone else's post? i am talking about pre-season as that is the logical reason that not only i but also Mourinho sees as the reason for Oscar's dip in form.

[didierforever 7,349]

who said i was refering to anyone else's post? i am talking about pre-season as that is logical reason that not only i but also Mourinho sees as the reason for OScar being inconsistent.

did i quote you to begin with? no. you quoted my post, which was in reply to someone giving a completely different argument than yours and you took it as a general statement which is applicable for all scenarios. hmmm.. makes you think, does not it? :wank2:

[Adnane 1,101]

Oh and WTF, the whole argument is around his implication with club AND country and youre just ASSUMING the others have had as mich minutes in NT ?

He has played 43 games for brazil since 2012. Willian 20, messi 33 and CR 35.

Go count the minutes and compare the whole lot ( club + nt ), add the lack of preseason.

If u come after that and still tell me fatigue isnt the problem then you just dont want to admit.

[Adnane 1,101]

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