The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Top players can make 'mistakes', yes.. but we've had long enough to realise that's just his intrinsically erratic playing style.Mats Hummels needs to be the marquee summer signing, make Dortmund an offer they can't refuse, Chalobah/Ake can look to replace Terry long term.I agree that we might need another top class CB soon, but I don't think that is to replace Luiz, rather to replace Terry. Chalobah right now is being moulded into a DM, same can be said for Ake. I don't think their long term future is at CB IMO.Still to this day, the CB pairing of Luiz and Terry at the start of the season has been the best by far. We haven't really had another chance to consistently see this partnership grow because of injuries mainly, so I think it's unfair to say we've had a long enough look at Luiz at CB. People forget that he's only 25 so as a CB he still has time to grow. Personally I look beyond the tag the media has given him as an erratic player - like I've said before, you don't start at CB for Brazil if you haven't got any sort of quality about you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Top players can make 'mistakes', yes.. but we've had long enough to realise that's just his intrinsically erratic playing style.Mats Hummels needs to be the marquee summer signing, make Dortmund an offer they can't refuse, Chalobah/Ake can look to replace Terry long term.Hummels is near impossible to sign. Backstreet09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Starting for Brazil means nothing. Brazil's national team has been terrible for years now. Luiz is a decent CB but his rash decisions make him a liability at the back. He has been caught out many times this season. He is not consistently reliable. Thats a fact.Nah, Brazil always had strong individual players.....However, everyone expects them to win the World Cup everytime, which causes other people to think they are "terrible," when they don't win, when in actuality their still better than most of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Hummels is near impossible to sign.Hence why I use the term 'marquee', we'd have to pay way over his market value, worth it though. The defence hasn't been the same since the Carvalho days. We need that touch of class at the back. Luiz & Cahill just isn't going to cut it, and JT will continue to pick up knocks. Backstreet09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 There a good chance he loses he's starting role in Brazil with the emergence of Dante..... I really don't think so. Mark it that Luiz and Thiago Silva are Brazil's starting CBs.Starting for Brazil means nothing. Brazil's national team has been terrible for years now. Luiz is a decent CB but his rash decisions make him a liability at the back. He has been caught out many times this season. He is not consistently reliable. Thats a fact.I guess Oscar's shit as well then since starting for Brazil is "nothing" these days. Honestly amazing what length people will go to to discredit Luiz as a player.Yes, Luiz has been caught out many times this season but so has our whole defence. Guys like Ivanovic and Cahill have been far more erratic than Luiz overall this season but because the media have tagged him as an erratic player people refuse to look beyond that. Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaka 243 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Oscar has to skills to make it in a team like Chelsea, he's not that consistent but which 20/21? year old isn't when its his first year in this league?Also , and for me that's usually a sign they will be great players, when he has a bad game, hes still ok, most important thing for a footballer in a topteam... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I would probably bet money that Oscar is the only one certain on Chelsea to make starting 11 on Brazil NT for 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNKS 508 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I really don't think so. Mark it that Luiz and Thiago Silva are Brazil's starting CBs.I guess Oscar's shit as well then since starting for Brazil is "nothing" these days. Honestly amazing what length people will go to to discredit Luiz as a player.Yes, Luiz has been caught out many times this season but so has our whole defence. Guys like Ivanovic and Cahill have been far more erratic than Luiz overall this season but because the media have tagged him as an erratic player people refuse to look beyond that.Great example of taking what I said and twisting it. This is a topic about Luiz not Cahill or Ivanovic. Yes all our defenders have made big mistakes this year. I dont think any of them are great. Like I said this is a topic about Luiz and people need to stop defending him with their lives, he isnt that great. Backstreet09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Great example of taking what I said and twisting it. This is a topic about Luiz not Cahill or Ivanovic. Yes all our defenders have made big mistakes this year. I dont think any off them are great. Like I said this is a topic about Luiz and people need to stop defending him with their lives, he isnt that great. I'm hardly defending him with my life , just think the stick he gets is unfair, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaka 243 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 This is oscars topic mate The Skipper and Dion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNKS 508 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 This is oscars topic mate Lol well I guess its my time to shut the fuck up lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 The stick he gets is at the upmost highly justifiable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 The stick he gets is at the upmost highly justifiableThen justify it. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Land 331 Posted March 10, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted March 10, 2013 People want go get rid of Luiz for Hummels lol Thats like picking cancer over aids or something like that.Sometimes I wonder if people actually watch Mats at all.He makes just as many mistakes as Luiz and the worst part is that he makes mistakes in big games.I cant believe that scrub still starts for our national team. pHaRaOn, The Skipper, Spike and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Then justify it.He is not Spanish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 He is not Spanish...haha... Hey guys we'll just see today, he's probably going to start.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Then justify it.Reckless tackles. Out of position taking the ball up from defense. Poor positioning .Poor marking and constant ball watching. Poor mentality and a knack of inconsistency. Lost track of how many goals we conceded due to his inability to overcome any of those weaknesses that he specifically is accounted forJustified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 He is not Spanish...Yes because I am blatantly biased for the love I show for Torres... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 People want go get rid of Luiz for Hummels lol Thats like picking cancer over aids or something like that.Sometimes I wonder if people actually watch Mats at all.He makes just as many mistakes as Luiz and the worst part is that he makes mistakes in big games.I cant believe that scrub still starts for our national team.Exactly. But he does have amazing potential to play amazingly. Of he can replicate some of his performances from the euros he is as good as gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Reckless tackles Out of position taking the ball up from defense. Poir positioning .Poor marking and constant ball watching. Poor mentality and a knack of inconsistency.Lost track of how many goals we conceded due to his inability to overcome any of those weaknesses that he specifically is accounted forJustifiedLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLHe is a fucking amazing player that uses Brazil #10, sorry if your little national team has no history! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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