🇧🇷 Oscar

[zolayes 14,489]

THANKS Sheva

[TOPTB 51]

THANKS Sheva

Take care of yourself old boy. Apologies if you ever felt anything I said was personal. You're a great fella and remind me a lot of so many of the old boys who brought me up at the Bridge.

[Barbara 15,149]

Ramires was meh, and could have been sent off for a bad tackle on Cuadrado (this guy can dribble anyone)

Luis played the full game, he was solid defensively and made at least 2 important tackles to stop Colombia on the counter. In attack he tried to support but Neymar didn't really use him, just cut inside whenever Luis overlapped. Oscar played him in once though and his shot was tapped in by Tardelli, but the lino wrongly (according to commentators) ruled Luis offside.

Oscar did pretty well by his standard. Not only the aforementioned through ball to Luis, he also made a sick backheel to Tardelli in the box.

Willian was quiet, but he used his pace to create 2 openings. One which Neymar couldn't make the most out of, and another which Oscar messed up with an awful finish.

as I didn't watch, I'll ask further - what is 'play pretty well by his standard'? Could you elaborate more, please?

Oscar's standards the second half last season was pretty bad.

You mean he helped the team, but didn't play as a creative #10 as he isn't one?

[zolayes 14,489]

Take care of yourself old boy. Apologies if you ever felt anything I said was personal. You're a great fella and remind me a lot of so many of the old boys who brought me up at the Bridge.

you too and THANKS ,,, I enjoyed MOST of your posts .. No one is perfect though I'M quite close .

be well friend

[Sheva. 5,373]

as I didn't watch, I'll ask further - what is 'play pretty well by his standard'? Could you elaborate more, please?

Oscar's standards the second half last season was pretty bad.

You mean he helped the team, but didn't play as a creative #10 as he isn't one?

My biggest problem with Oscar is always the lack of production in attack. But yesterday i thought he did better than normal, while still playing like a 3rd CM.

[robsblubot 3,595]

Ramires was meh, and could have been sent off for a bad tackle on Cuadrado (this guy can dribble anyone)

Luis played the full game, he was solid defensively and made at least 2 important tackles to stop Colombia on the counter. In attack he tried to support but Neymar didn't really use him, just cut inside whenever Luis overlapped. Oscar played him in once though and his shot was tapped in by Tardelli, but the lino wrongly (according to commentators) ruled Luis offside.

Oscar did pretty well by his standard. Not only the aforementioned through ball to Luis, he also made a sick backheel to Tardelli in the box.

Willian was quiet, but he used his pace to create 2 openings. One which Neymar couldn't make the most out of, and another which Oscar messed up with an awful finish.

we've watched the very same game apparently.

Still cannot believe Scolari did not take Luis and started him as a LB which would allow him to use Marcelo in the middle/wing too.

Brazil defense was really good as Colombia were only able to threaten with long shots.

Tardeli is just another Jo... local boy who has no business playing for Brazil.... Jefferson looked very solid, but only tested by those long shots.

If Oscar scored the goal, he'd be MoTM, but he did not so he was subpar - sounds harsh but that's football. He had creative moments like you said, but his pass completion in the final third was not good enough. Has to work on that.

IMO Brazil were not good enough simply because Colombia is an OK side - like I had said during the world cup. Chile for example are superior side and there are a handful who are way above this standard (of Brazil and Chile). You remove Neymar from the Brazil and there is little up front.

[Sheva. 5,373]

we've watched the very same game apparently.

Still cannot believe Scolari did not take Luis and started him as a LB which would allow him to use Marcelo in the middle/wing too.

Brazil defense was really good as Colombia were only able to threaten with long shots.

Tardeli is just another Jo... local boy who has no business playing for Brazil.... Jefferson looked very solid, but only tested by those long shots.

If Oscar scored the goal, he'd be MoTM, but he did not so he was subpar - sounds harsh but that's football. He had creative moments like you said, but his pass completion in the final third was not good enough. Has to work on that.

IMO Brazil were not good enough simply because Colombia is an OK side - like I had said during the world cup. Chile for example are superior side and there are a handful who are way above this standard (of Brazil and Chile). You remove Neymar from the Brazil and there is little up front.

Yeah it was the best Brazil defence i've seen in a while. They played deep and didn't allow anything in behind or from the sides. Maicon and Luis were also very disciplined - when one went forward, the other stayed back.

I liked Tardelli though, he at least can play football and is fast. But he looks like the type who partners another striker, not a lone striker. Brazil don't have anyone better though, so they have to manage.

[robsblubot 3,595]

Yeah it was the best Brazil defence i've seen in a while. They played deep and didn't allow anything in behind or from the sides. Maicon and Luis were also very disciplined - when one went forward, the other stayed back.

I liked Tardelli though, he at least can play football and is fast. But he looks like the type who partners another striker, not a lone striker. Brazil don't have anyone better though, so they have to manage.

Plus there was "the other Luis," whose name shall not be spoken, who had an outstanding performance, similar to what he's been doing at his club. Almost scored again from a free kick far far away.

Our Luis helped the other Luis with his defensive solidity btw.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Brazil need to play a 442 Diamond formation. It solves their forward & creativity problems.

Neymar Firmino/Pato

Ganso

Coutinho Oscar

Gustavo

Seems like a no brainer to me. The likes of Robinho, Jo, Fred, Hulk, Tardelli etc have no business playing for Brazil.

[nyikolajevics 2,698]

Brazil need to play a 442 Diamond formation. It solves their forward & creativity problems.

Neymar Firmino/Pato

Ganso

Coutinho Oscar

Gustavo

Seems like a no brainer to me. The likes of Robinho, Jo, Fred, Hulk, Tardelli etc have no business playing for Brazil.

Ganso? Pato? I don't think Brazil can win a World Cup with players like these.. They should try a lot of youngsters and find some real talents.

[robsblubot 3,595]

Brazil need to play a 442 Diamond formation. It solves their forward & creativity problems.

Neymar Firmino/Pato

Ganso

Coutinho Oscar

Gustavo

Seems like a no brainer to me. The likes of Robinho, Jo, Fred, Hulk, Tardelli etc have no business playing for Brazil.

Agree with the blacklisted names, with the question mark of hulk - if he improves as he's still fairly young.

that's too weak defensively to face the likes of germany, holland, and argentina.

Brazil has no rounded players for the midfield: Oscar is the only one really. Neymar is the only player who doesn't have to track back. Pato/Firmino and Ganso can't track back, same with Coutinho, who is a midget (also not good enough tbh). I also have my doubts about Gustavo who I think is way too DM for today's dynamic game.

Regardless of names, it's still not a good team... at least not good enough. Agree with ^^ youngsters may have the answer unless Pato has a magic comeback.

[Myself 793]

Agree with the blacklisted names, with the question mark of hulk - if he improves as he's still fairly young.

that's too weak defensively to face the likes of germany, holland, and argentina.

Brazil has no rounded players for the midfield: Oscar is the only one really. Neymar is the only player who doesn't have to track back. Pato/Firmino and Ganso can't track back, same with Coutinho, who is a midget (also not good enough tbh). I also have my doubts about Gustavo who I think is way too DM for today's dynamic game.

Regardless of names, it's still not a good team... at least not good enough. Agree with ^^ youngsters may have the answer unless Pato has a magic comeback.

What? Coutinho tracks back all the time, and Neymar does as well when playing for Brazil

[The Chels 2,502]

What? Coutinho tracks back all the time, and Neymar does as well when playing for Brazil

He spends more time rolling around the pitch.

[Myself 793]

He spends more time rolling around the pitch.

jesus

just ignore the actual point, ok.

[iseah100 5,612]

jesus

just ignore the actual point, ok.

LMAOOOOOO!

[The Chels 2,502]

jesus

just ignore the actual point, ok.

Could say the same to you!

[Myself 793]

Could say the same to you!

Jesus fucking Christ.

So tell me, where did you come to the conclusion that Coutinho has no work rate?

[The Chels 2,502]

Jesus fucking Christ.

So tell me, where did you come to the conclusion that Coutinho has no work rate?

Jesus fucking Christ.

So tell me, how (fixed this bit for you) did you come to the conclusion that I think Coutinho has no work rate?

[Myself 793]

Jesus fucking Christ.

So tell me, how (fixed this bit for you) did you come to the conclusion that I think Coutinho has no work rate?

Agree with the blacklisted names, with the question mark of hulk - if he improves as he's still fairly young.

that's too weak defensively to face the likes of germany, holland, and argentina.

Brazil has no rounded players for the midfield: Oscar is the only one really. Neymar is the only player who doesn't have to track back. Pato/Firmino and Ganso can't track back, same with Coutinho, who is a midget (also not good enough tbh). I also have my doubts about Gustavo who I think is way too DM for today's dynamic game.

Regardless of names, it's still not a good team... at least not good enough. Agree with ^^ youngsters may have the answer unless Pato has a magic comeback.

[The Chels 2,502]

LeChels_, on 07 Sept 2014 - 04:56 AM, said: Jesus fucking Christ. So tell me, how (fixed this bit for you) did you come to the conclusion that I think Coutinho has no work rate?

Robguima, on 06 Sept 2014 - 7:16 PM, said: Agree with the blacklisted names, with the question mark of hulk - if he improves as he's still fairly young. that's too weak defensively to face the likes of germany, holland, and argentina. Brazil has no rounded players for the midfield: Oscar is the only one really. Neymar is the only player who doesn't have to track back. Pato/Firmino and Ganso can't track back, same with Coutinho, who is a midget (also not good enough tbh). I also have my doubts about Gustavo who I think is way too DM for today's dynamic game. Regardless of names, it's still not a good team... at least not good enough. Agree with ^^ youngsters may have the answer unless Pato has a magic comeback.

You've had a 'mare there, mate.