didierforever 7,349 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 yeah goal and assist. good stuff?did you even watch the match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Very very unconvincing despite the goal and assist papering over the cracks. I literally couldn't believe how poor his all round play was. Oscar has rode on the coattails of Fabregas and Fabregas held his hand, but that mini partnership is now non-existent. He's back to last season mediocrity now. He lacks so many things and I've even noticed some selfishness in his play. Just like Willian and Schurrle, I can't trust him anymore. Not a dependable player for me. stroey, bababoom, The Skipper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 He is horrible. We need a number 10 and the biggest problem this team has is his presence. A completely useless number 10. RoyalBlues and stroey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 did you even watch the match? yeah. he sucked hugely first half. but i let him off this match, contributed to the win alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 yeah. he sucked hugely first half. but i let him off this match, contributed to the win alot.well putting the ball in an almost empty net is suddenly "contributing" a lot. in that ways willian/iva should be the MOTM cos they took the quick corner to the goal. i mean we should forget that he sucked the whole match. gave the ball away in crucial situations. i mean hazard plays him a straight forward goal in a counter from our own corner and he ends up giving the ball away about 30 yards from our goal making us susceptible. but well, since he scored a tap in... we should let it all slide away. long live oscar. best no.10 ever.!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantdeville 195 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 A real conundrum. As long as his end product produces like today and he keeps harassing the defense in possession, the glitz and glamour of a sparkly #10 will not have a place in Jose's team. In some morbid way, I just want them to squash Willian and Oscar together because I truly think they'd make one helluva player if they were one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantdeville 195 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 well putting the ball in an almost empty net is suddenly "contributing" a lot. in that ways willian/iva should be the MOTM cos they took the quick corner to the goal. i mean we should forget that he sucked the whole match. gave the ball away in crucial situations. i mean hazard plays him a straight forward goal in a counter from our own corner and he ends up giving the ball away about 30 yards from our goal making us susceptible. but well, since he scored a tap in... we should let it all slide away. long live oscar. best no.10 ever.!!!To be fair @Lucio has made two very short statements and none of it is warranting the reaction. Unless this goes really far back between you two. Just an observation.Edit: one glance over to the Cahill thread and I have my answer. RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 He is horrible. We need a number 10 and the biggest problem this team has is his presence. A completely useless number 10.what? dont you know he scored and a goal and assisted one. that solves everything. i mean lets completely neglect that we should have been 2-0/3-0 down cos of his consistent ball conceding. or that we had no play mainly cos our no.10 forgot what playing football is, but according to some, thats all fine!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 well putting the ball in an almost empty net is suddenly "contributing" a lot. in that ways willian/iva should be the MOTM cos they took the quick corner to the goal. i mean we should forget that he sucked the whole match. gave the ball away in crucial situations. i mean hazard plays him a straight forward goal in a counter from our own corner and he ends up giving the ball away about 30 yards from our goal making us susceptible. but well, since he scored a tap in... we should let it all slide away. long live oscar. best no.10 ever.!!!Not a great game but credit where credit is due.He made the run, which made himself available for the tap in. He had a freaking assist from a very clever flick. More than fabregas had going forward today. Or hazard?Also credit to Newcastle for making passing in the final third difficult for us. rantdeville, RoyalBlues and Cescy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Lol.Has one bad game, worst #10 in the business. RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 To be fair @Lucio has made two very short statements and none of it is warranting the reaction. Unless this goes really far back between you two. Just an observation.Edit: one glance over to the Cahill thread and I have my answer.its just a coincidence. i have no problems with any members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Not a great game but credit where credit is due.He made the run, which made himself available for the tap in. He had a freaking assist from a very clever flick. More than fabregas had going forward today. Or hazard?Also credit to Newcastle for making passing in the final third difficult for us.what? more than hazard? what game were u watching? hazard had a few touches of the ball in the first half and created an oppirtunity every time. he looked dangerous every time he got the ball.cesc had a terrible performance. but oscar was abysmall. absolutely horrible. he made that run cos he should be doing that. he is our no.10 and supposed to get in that position. as well as he is supposed to make our game. every time he touched the ball, it went to a newcastle player. the goal and the assist does nothing to cover how hopeless he was today. Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Lol.Has one bad game, worst #10 in the business.? really? one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Lol.Has one bad game first half, worst #10 in the business.fixed CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Not a great game but credit where credit is due.He made the run, which made himself available for the tap in. He had a freaking assist from a very clever flick. More than fabregas had going forward today. Or hazard?Also credit to Newcastle for making passing in the final third difficult for us.His assist was absolutely fantastic, the only other players we have in the squad who could have pulled that off consistently in the same situation are Hazard and Cesc, our best players. In the second half he could have still grabbed another assist in that beautiful collective play which ended with him passing to Costa with a header. Honestly, and speaking for the second half only, he had a very good performance. Barbara, Cescy, RoyalBlues and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 what? more than hazard? what game were u watching? hazard had a few touches of the ball in the first half and created an oppirtunity every time. he looked dangerous every time he got the ball.cesc had a terrible performance. but oscar was abysmall. absolutely horrible. he made that run cos he should be doing that. he is our no.10 and supposed to get in that position. as well as he is supposed to make our game. every time he touched the ball, it went to a newcastle player. the goal and the assist does nothing to cover how hopeless he was today.Right my point is that things don't happen in vacuum.There is a reason our attacking mids struggled today. Hazard wasn't great. William had no shot on target did he? Oscar wasn't great but not as poor as you claim either - he did have a terrible start of the game though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantdeville 195 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 what? more than hazard? what game were u watching? hazard had a few touches of the ball in the first half and created an oppirtunity every time. he looked dangerous every time he got the ball.cesc had a terrible performance. but oscar was abysmall. absolutely horrible. he made that run cos he should be doing that. he is our no.10 and supposed to get in that position. as well as he is supposed to make our game. every time he touched the ball, it went to a newcastle player. the goal and the assist does nothing to cover how hopeless he was today. The goal and the assist today secured a much needed 2 point lead over city. Unfortunately, we don't get points directly from pretty assists and chances created, and thankfully for Oscar, we don't lose points directly from poor touches that go to the other team. You're following the wrong London club if you think that chances created and dribbling is going to grind out 3 points against Newcastle. Tbh, you're in for a serious roller coaster emotional ride if you thought this season was going to be a walk in the park, bookended by beautiful touches and wonderful build up play every time. This season is going to be won by taking points from teams that fight tooth and nail against conceding. Wasn't pretty, AT ALL. Oscar didn't play well, AT ALL. But he produced when we needed him to. Mission, robsblubot, RoyalBlues and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Right my point is that things don't happen in vacuum.There is a reason our attacking mids struggled today. Hazard wasn't great. William had no shot on target did he? Oscar wasn't great but not as poor as you claim either - he did have a terrible start of the game though.dude, i honestly dont know what game you were watching is you think oscar was not that bad. i mean just go the match thread and even after ignoring all my posts do see people's reaction on there. he was absolutely shocking.just start from here http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/19667-chelsea-v-newcastle/page-12hazard was absolutely isolated. oscar and cesc are supposed to be the main link up men. both were poor. cant blame hazard for that. he looked dangerous everytime he got the ball. also, when does willian ever have a shot on goal? in all seriousness, i dont expect much from willian. but this individual performance from oscar has been one of the worst i have seen from any player in that first half. the goal and assist are doing nothing but putting a thin cover over a leaky wall. i remember atleast 2 or 3 oppurtunities that newcastle had to score simply cos oscar lost the ball cos of his first touch or poor pass and made us susceptible to a counter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 The goal and the assist today secured a much needed 2 point lead over city.Unfortunately, we don't get points directly from pretty assists and chances created, and thankfully for Oscar, we don't lose points directly from poor touches that go to the other team. You're following the wrong London club if you think that chances created and dribbling is going to grind out 3 points against Newcastle.Tbh, you're in for a serious roller coaster emotional ride if you thought this season was going to be a walk in the park, bookended by beautiful touches and wonderful build up play every time.This season is going to be won by taking points from teams that fight tooth and nail against conceding. Wasn't pretty, AT ALL. Oscar didn't play well, AT ALL. But he produced when we needed him to.first touches actually make us play good and create oppurtunities. infact a good first touch is the most important thing in football as far as i am corcerned. a poor first touch like oscar's today could have made us be 2/3-0 down and we could have been for a long long night. no one expects beautiful football week in and week out, but people do expect football. what oscar played in the first half was not football. it was pure shit!!! also, i dont get this argument. u do understand that he was the main reason why we were this poor today. he dint need to score and assist. if we had piled on the pressure by even simple passes we would have been in a better situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgleo 90 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Jeez ! That was a dis-heartening performance !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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