johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Is there any reason Belgium haven't been able to get the best out of him? Only 5 goals in 42 caps is suprisingly low for a player of Eden's quality.For comparisons sake, Gotze has 6 goals in 26 games while Neymar has 27 in 46 caps.Well the whole team only really started playing well this last year and a half.A lot of Eden's caps were from 4 or so years a go where he was often a substitute, we had a team of individuals, no decent striker and a horrible, horrible coach who hasn't been able to get a job since.His stats will vastly improve in the years to come. Gilvorak and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 114 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Well the whole team only really started playing well this last year and a half.A lot of Eden's caps were from 4 or so years a go where he was often a substitute, we had a team of individuals, no decent striker and a horrible, horrible coach who hasn't been able to get a job since.His stats will vastly improve in the years to come.George Leekens was in the news a few days ago telling he was speaking with a London club. Also he claims the recent succes of the nt he was 90% the reason for that. On his website he claims that he builded the best Belgium nt ever. Now he is the National mister 90% joke of Belgium, nobody takes him serious. Verstuurd vanaf mijn Find 5 met Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 George Leekens was in the news a few days ago telling he was speaking with a London club.Also he claims the recent succes of the nt he was 90% the reason for that.On his website he claims that he builded the best Belgium nt ever.Now he is the National mister 90% joke of Belgium, nobody takes him serious.Verstuurd vanaf mijn Find 5 met TapatalkI was talking about Rene Vandereycken, his predecessor, who was arguably even much much worse.I remember a friendly against Morocco. They had a team of technically capable midgets, and we had five or six players above the 6'2 mark. He managed to put a team on the pitch with no wingers whatsoever, every ball played low down the centre of the field. No crosses were even attempted. I was watching in a full bar and every person in the room had better tactical capabilities than the national manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 114 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I was talking about Rene Vandereycken, his predecessor, who was arguably even much much worse.I remember a friendly against Morocco. They had a team of technically capable midgets, and we had five or six players above the 6'2 mark. He managed to put a team on the pitch with no wingers whatsoever, every ball played low down the centre of the field. No crosses were even attempted. I was watching in a full bar and every person in the room had better tactical capabilities than the national manager.Yeah he was also horrible, but did hazard played for the nt those days? Verstuurd vanaf mijn Find 5 met Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Yeah he was also horrible, but did hazard played for the nt those days?Verstuurd vanaf mijn Find 5 met TapatalkHe's been with the national team as early as 2008 (!!), which would make him 17 at the time. He made several appearances, mostly as a sub. 17 appearances without goals before 2011 it says on Wikipedia.Last year he made 3 goals in 9 appearances. Penalties mostly, but still. Coop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted February 9, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted February 9, 2014 Is there any reason Belgium haven't been able to get the best out of him? Only 5 goals in 42 caps is suprisingly low for a player of Eden's quality.For comparisons sake, Gotze has 6 goals in 26 games while Neymar has 27 in 46 caps.A lot of his caps are from a young age and from sub ins. Also Belgium had a really poor team in the beginning when Hazard made his debut so there wasn't much support.When we finally did have a proper team George Leekens was our manager. Just to give you an idea of how it was for Hazard.There was this game vs Austria it ended 4-4. We were 4-3 up in extra time. Goalkeeper throws to Hazard who's on the halfway line. Apart from our striker our entire team was behind the ball. Hazard tries to go past the fullback. fullback takes the ball, passes to midfielder, midfielder puts a throughball in to the winger,Winger slides it between our goalie's legs. 4-4.Leekens afterwards in the Pressconference put the blame on Hazard (19-20 y old at the time) after that he was benched and put in the stands. When he finally did get his shot again. He was told not to dribble but just pass the ball.Hazard did but when he saw that he was about to be subbed (60th minute) he dribbled past 3 players and his shot went inches wide of the goal. Got subbed after that, didn't shake hands with the manager and just went straight to the dressing room.That's also when the hamburger "incident" happened. Zazard, Peppi85, Excalibur KTBFFH and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 114 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I was very sad those days, I know he would be a top player 1 day and that idiot was giving hazard a bad image. But after all if hazard came on the field the audience screamed his name. Verstuurd vanaf mijn Find 5 met Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 One of the most important things Wilmots did was making the right players feel important.He actually listens and is even open to input from the players at a certain level.When Mboyo was selected, a player recovering from some really dark teenage years including a rape accusation, he asked the team whether they were ok with this decision before he actually made it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 114 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 The more you make hazard important the better he plays. Verstuurd vanaf mijn Find 5 met Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Could you guys maybe give him a couple of weeks off in say April btw? So he still has this form at the World Cup.Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Oh and just something extra to make you understand what a cunt George Leekens was/is.He had a deal with one of the flemish newspapers to give them inside information and in return they wrote positive articles about him.This is not a rumour. Was confrmed by Marc Wilmots the manager of the NT now and assistent coach at the time. Beigl, MAF, bababoom and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Oh and just something extra to make you understand what a cunt George Leekens was/is.He had a deal with one of the flemish newspapers to give them inside information and in return they wrote positive articles about him.This is not a rumour. Was confrmed by Marc Wilmots the manager of the NT now and assistent coach at the time.Seriously? Did not know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Oh and just something extra to make you understand what a cunt George Leekens was/is.He had a deal with one of the flemish newspapers to give them inside information and in return they wrote positive articles about him.This is not a rumour. Was confrmed by Marc Wilmots the manager of the NT now and assistent coach at the time.It was widely publicised in mainstream media too right? Think I've read it somewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Seriously? Did not know that. YupThat same newspaper wrote negative articles about Wilmots when he was manager and when confrontedby it Wilmots said that it was because he didn't want to give any inside information like George Leekens did to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 114 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Oh and just something extra to make you understand what a cunt George Leekens was/is.He had a deal with one of the flemish newspapers to give them inside information and in return they wrote positive articles about him.This is not a rumour. Was confrmed by Marc Wilmots the manager of the NT now and assistent coach at the time.I heard rumours about this but I did not know Leekens was the basterd who did this, well no surprise for me. Verstuurd vanaf mijn Find 5 met Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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