Panic 57 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Tomo said: I would say it's worth the risk keeping him and potentially selling him for peanuts next summer for two reasons. 1. There's every chance he will enjoy it enough under Sarri and change his mind DDG style. 2. But if he is still intent on leaving come next summer we should touch wood have a good enough attacking philosophy implemented to minimize the loss as much as humanly possible. Should also add that if Madrid don't have a replacement for Ronaldo by then, they will not be in as strong of a bargaining position as they are now. Their fans want a big name to come and the club may very well be desperate to sign a huge name. That means if Chelsea play hardball again next summer, Madrid could be forced to look somewhere else because I doubt that they will wait 2 years to replace Ronaldo. It's also worth considering how sought after Mbappe will be. The World Cup has only increased his star status and if he has a big year this upcoming season, Madrid may do everything they can to obtain Mbappe. I have a feeling that if Hazard doesn't leave this summer, he will stay because Madrid will go after Mbappe or even Neymar next summer. The Skipper, Tomo and bigbluewillie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 There's a lot of upside to selling him next summer. 1. Mbappe is about to be the main man at PSG. Neymar might not like that so much. Neymar and Madrid are a match made in heaven, they should just get a room together, already. 2. Other clubs can turn his head (if he doesn't sign a new deal). His price won't be terrible if Barcelona + Madrid both want him. If we do sell him this summer, I hope to god that the club have been lining up deals. Nothing like getting a cash inflow and everyone's price goes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 IF this http://astamfordbridgetoofar.com/2018/07/21/bad-news-for-chelsea-fans-as-blues-agree-170million-double-deal-to-send-two-stars-to-real-madrid-report/ is true, I am going to lose my fecking mind!! Only £170 for BOTH Hazard AND Courtois! Thats £65m less or so than what we should get at minimum (and £120m less than a Courtois with 2, 3 years left on contract double deal would cost!) If you subtract out Courtois £35m Real is getting Hazard for £135m or basically the same as what Barca paid for semi bust Dembele and £15m less than they paid for Coutinho! Please talk me down from the rope and chair. WTF is going on with our board for last 4 years????????? Arguably best GK, certainly top 3 in world we will sell him soon for a third of his value Have 2nd or 3rd best RB in world may sell him Best DMF in world by far, may lose him Had the current best attacking MF in world on club sold him for shit May lose 1st or second best LW in world soon Had now current 2nd best RW in world, Sold him for shit Had now current top 6 or 7 striker in world, sold him for shit And another top 10 or so striker and our manager fucked him off n' out Grrrrrrrrrrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: IF this http://astamfordbridgetoofar.com/2018/07/21/bad-news-for-chelsea-fans-as-blues-agree-170million-double-deal-to-send-two-stars-to-real-madrid-report/ is true, I am going to lose my fecking mind!! Only £170 for BOTH Hazard AND Courtois! Thats £65m less or so than what we should get at minimum (and 100m less than a Courtois with 2, 3 years left on contract double deal would cost!) If you subtract out Courtois £35m Real is getting Hazard for £135m or basically the same as what Barca paid for semi bust Dembele and £15m less than they paid for Coutinho! Please talk me down from the rope and chair. WTF is going on with our board for last 4 years????????? Arguably best GK, certainly top 3 in world we will sell him soon for a third of his value Have 2nd or 3rd best RB in world may sell him Best DMF in world by far, may lose him Had the current best attacking MF in world on club sold him for shit May lose 1st or second best LW in world soon Had now current 2nd best RW in world, Sold him for shit Had now current top 6 or 7 striker in world, sold him for shit And another top 10 or so striker and our manager fucked him off n' out Grrrrrrrrrrrr Bullshit...reliable Belgian news outlet debunked the rumour this morning... Pipe down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, eemanyooel said: Bullshit...reliable Belgian news outlet debunked the rumour this morning... Pipe down... Link please. I am at a point where I can actually see us doing this. 19 days till window for inbound slams shut. Donnarumma is probably off the board now as CAS reversed AC Milan Euro ban. That leaves Thomas Strakosha as only truly world class keeper who is remotely available. Of course its another Italian game-playing team (Lazio). Only good news (if true) is Barca came back with 3rd bid for Willian at around £55m. He gave interview today and deffo wants out and I would much rather he go to Barca than Man U and £55m is great price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 all this drama ... https://www.premierleague.com/players/4503/Eden-Hazard/stats?co=1&se=-1 and an actual link too! Can filter by season and compare with other players to have an idea of effectiveness and characteristics. We all have eyeballs, so just additional info. The club will be just fine with or without hazard. For me it is simple actually: sign a new deal or fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Vesper said: Link please. I am at a point where I can actually see us doing this. 19 days till window for inbound slams shut. Does this work? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jason said: Does this work? 🤔 Yes, thank you these 2 do say the lowball deal is not done yet Het Laatste Nieuws (The Latest News) https://www.hln.be/sport/voetbal/buitenlands-voetbal/primera-division/na-njet-van-neymar-real-madrid-blijft-piste-hazard-onderzoeken-ploegmaat-roept-rode-duivel-op-om-bij-chelsea-te-blijven~a9a1f2e5/ Ondertussen lanceren websites, die allen gretig clicks proberen mee te grissen, op weinig gebaseerde geruchten. Zo kondigde Le 10 Sport een akkoord voor 190 miljoen aan tussen Real en Chelsea. Een bericht dat ze later in een ander artikel tegenspraken. In Spanje zelf blijft het betrekkelijk stil rond Hazard. Real heeft zijn bevriende media nog niet het sein gegeven dat een deal in de pijplijn zit. Het Nieuwsblad (The Newspaper) https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20180720_03625206 Eden Hazard naar Real Madrid is nu al dé transfersoap van de zomer. De Rode Duivel wordt al jarenlang gelinkt aan de Koninklijke en sinds hij uitblonk op het WK voetbal wemelt het van de geruchten. Het Franse Le 10 Sport meent al te weten dat de twee clubs een akkoord hebben over een transfersom van 190 miljoen euro, maar dat nieuws lijkt voorbarig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I want him to stay, but it's really important that we decide what we're going to do now-ish. We need to see what we're working with. If we're going to sell, just do it (agree it confidentially) and get to work on what needs to be done. robsblubot and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Was just thinking it was 6 years ago we signed Eden. We played Shitty in the CS. (amd lost grrr) Maybe if Eden goes we might Beat them this time lol Was an up and down year that I wont forget in a hurry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,275 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Was just thinking it was 6 years ago we signed Eden. We played Shitty in the CS. (amd lost grrr) Maybe if Eden goes we might Beat them this time lol Was an up and down year that I wont forget in a hurry Ill probs get hammed for u this but... dont u think hazard has the same problem as willian asin he slows play down so much?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said: Ill probs get hammed for u this but... dont u think hazard has the same problem as willian asin he slows play down so much?? I've never thought Eden was perfect mate, hes got problems. But you can't say things like that on here - it causes grief YorkshireBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 https://statsbomb.com/2018/07/should-chelsea-sell-eden-hazard-to-real-madrid/ Belgiannutt and robsblubot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 If he don't want to sign the extension, it is better to sell him now for sure. No doubt about that. We want to avoid Courtois situation happening again. Once is shit enough. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Sideshow Luiz said: https://statsbomb.com/2018/07/should-chelsea-sell-eden-hazard-to-real-madrid/ I dont see a point there that was made that we all haven't said in many different ways. Its a gamble. There will be half of us say sell now and do what we can with the money it gives us and the other half will say keep him and hope he signs another contract, If we look at it from a business point it would pay to sell him and buy 2 very good players with the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Hamilton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Unionjack said: I dont see a point there that was made that we all haven't said in many different ways. Its a gamble. There will be half of us say sell now and do what we can with the money it gives us and the other half will say keep him and hope he signs another contract, If we look at it from a business point it would pay to sell him and buy 2 very good players with the money. At this point, all of the points have been made here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said: At this point, all of the points have been made here. Good point 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 bluesman2610 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Florentino Perez's latest statement is good news for Chelsea over Eden Hazard's links to Madrid It seems that he may no longer fit what they're looking for after a change in focus https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/florentino-perezs-latest-statement-good-14939806 kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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