Eden Hazard

[Superblue 6,370]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

It doesn't take a genius to know he wants to go. I can see that. He has been talking about Madrid for like 567594674560560 years! The point is, he is still sending mixed messages about his future. He did say "after 6 wonderful years" but he also said "it MIGHT be time", "I can decide if I want to stay or go" and then the whole "we' thing about working hard etc. Since he wants to go (to Madrid), why not just straight out say "I want to go" or "it's time for me to leave and try new things"? Why keep on indicating you want to leave and at the same time, hinting he could stay as well? At this point, I just want him to make his intentions 100% clear once and for all. Tired of this stupid 50-50 bullshit and having to wonder and discuss with others whether he'll leave or stay etc!

I think he is genuinely torn over the situation because there are positives and negatives to both situations:

Chelsea - where he is already loved and worshipped by the fans and will remain the main man, but does he need something new to push himself

Real Madrid - his dream club but one where there is far more pressure and he's starting from scratch in the shadow of one of the greatest players ever

London - Well settled with family, quiet private life

Madrid - New start for his young family and doubt Madrid media will leave him alone as much

Future at Chelsea - Potentially exciting new brand of football which will get more out of him, but how long would it last? 

Future at Real Madrid - Best club in world football at present, but you feel they are towards the end of a cycle needing to replace soon the likes of Modric, Ramos, etc and they've lost their main player. Is it potentially the worst time to join them?

I do think Sarri needs to get hold of him and have a meeting with him first. Give Hazard his ideas and sell him the dream and see where his head is at afterwards. Also as you have said, Madrid have yet to suggest a big is coming in for him.

[Shakez 755]

To be fair, the reason Hazard is being so vague about the future is because Real hasn't really made a real offer for him yet (only Barca did). If they came he would probably push for a move, but by openly courting Real "saying that he's available" he hopes the offer does come. 

Meanwhile he doesn't wanna burn his bridges with Chelsea, and leave the door open for a stay if the offer doesn't come. Wich im honestly not sure if it will even come. We know that Real are interested more in Mbappé and Neymar, not only because they're a bit younger. But because they easier to market and are both more prolific than Hazard. Real already has some players with the same profile as Hazard. Namely Isco, and Asensio. There are also big rumours that James is getting a second chance next season (Lopetegui rates him), so Hazard doesn't make any sense imo. Real are far more in need of a proper striker (and a prolofic goal-scorer). 

Also there's the fact that we aren't linked with any winger atm. Unlike with Courtois, where we are preparing a replacement already (Allison). I don't think Chelsea are willing to sell him now, and there will obviously be big talks first about next season with management and Sarri before they will even consider allowing him to leave to Real. 

[coolhead23 1,146]

8 minutes ago, Jason said:

It doesn't take a genius to know he wants to go. I can see that. He has been talking about Madrid for like 567594674560560 years! The point is, he is still sending mixed messages about his future. He did say "after 6 wonderful years" but he also said "it MIGHT be time", "I can decide if I want to stay or go" and then the whole "we" thing about working hard etc. Since he wants to go (to Madrid), why not just straight out say "I want to go" or "it's time for me to leave and try new things"? Why keep on indicating you want to leave and at the same time, hinting he could stay as well? At this point, I just want him to make his intention 100% clear once and for all. Tired of this stupid 50-50 bullshit and wondering whether he'll leave or stay etc!

He did the same when he was joining us, we were thrilled when it over then maybe it is the turn of the fans of Madrid now... Creating a buzz !!! ... maybe thats his thing!!! 

[1chelsea 864]

I bet he will come out to say it a joke


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[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I think he is genuinely torn over the situation because there are positives and negatives to both situations:

Chelsea - where he is already loved and worshipped by the fans and will remain the main man, but does he need something new to push himself

Real Madrid - his dream club but one where there is far more pressure and he's starting from scratch in the shadow of one of the greatest players ever

London - Well settled with family, quiet private life

Madrid - New start for his young family and doubt Madrid media will leave him alone as much

Future at Chelsea - Potentially exciting new brand of football which will get more out of him, but how long would it last? 

Future at Real Madrid - Best club in world football at present, but you feel they are towards the end of a cycle needing to replace soon the likes of Modric, Ramos, etc and they've lost their main player. Is it potentially the worst time to join them?

I do think Sarri needs to get hold of him and have a meeting with him first. Give Hazard his ideas and sell him the dream and see where his head is at afterwards. Also as you have said, Madrid have yet to suggest a big is coming in for him.

All valid points but if he's genuinely torn about this, why does he keep on telling Real to come get him? It unlikely isn't an easy decision but he's gotta make the hard choice on what he really wants. Like I said above, we are not in the process of choosing between his mom and dad!

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

Impossible to replace.  Though, if he doesn't sign by the end of the window, we have to really consider selling him.  But, we need to buy replacements first.  Unfortunately, I have no idea who those could be.  Everyone we could get is young and kind of unproven (much like Hazard was).  

Every time I've seen Asensio, he hasn't impressed me.  Don't see the hype.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Maybe i'm reading to much into it but the "if they want to let me go" part does seem to indicate that he isn't going to push for a deal and is putting the decision in our hands.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

43 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Pretty sure they've denied approaching them. Could it be that they don't want to mess up future negotiations with them directly if its seen they've approached either player first?

The good thing now is we have Sarri as our manager, someone who can coach a comprehensive attacking system. I feel we are now in a better position to be less dependent on a star player as opposed to under Conte/Mourinho

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

1 minute ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

The good thing now is we have Sarri as our manager, someone who can coach a comprehensive attacking system. I feel we are now in a better position to be less dependent on a star player as opposed to under Conte/Mourinho

that's a fair point.  It would be nice to have a comprehensive attacking system full of stars.  But, I don't disagree with you.

[Pizy 18,368]

5 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

Impossible to replace.  Though, if he doesn't sign by the end of the window, we have to really consider selling him.  But, we need to buy replacements first.  Unfortunately, I have no idea who those could be.  Everyone we could get is young and kind of unproven (much like Hazard was).  

Every time I've seen Asensio, he hasn't impressed me.  Don't see the hype.

Same with me in regards to Asensio. Shown flashes of brilliance but would be a massive gamble.

Isco would definitely ease the pain for most of our fans because he's super skillful and flashy. But again, he seems like an impossible target.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

1 minute ago, Pizy said:

Same with me in regards to Asensio. Shown flashes of brilliance but would be a massive gamble.

Isco would definitely ease the pain for most of our fans because he's super skillful and flashy. But again, he seems like an impossible target.

I think Isco is out of bounds as well.  I think we'd be in the Pulisic kind of range.  Barca went out and got Dembele, which was a gamble.  But, it's easy to gamble when you have Suarez and Messi.  how wrong could it possibly go?

[Superblue 6,370]

Just now, MrExcalibur100 said:

The good thing now is we have Sarri as our manager, someone who can coach a comprehensive attacking system. I feel we are now in a better position to be less dependent on a star player as opposed to under Conte/Mourinho

Yeah I've thought this a few times. Look at the numbers somebody like Insigne has put up for Sarri, and obviously Mertens as well. 

It's not ideal by any stretch but if Sarri can get us going I do think the blow could be softened somewhat.

[Shakez 755]

This is the full context of the quote:

"I will go on holiday and ask myself the right questions. After six wonderful years at Chelsea, it might be time to discover something different. I can decide if I want to stay or go, but Chelsea will make the final decision – if they want to let me go.

For my career, certainly after this World Cup, I’m at a moment where I might change.

We all know that I’ve always felt well at Chelsea, and I’ve been linked to all the big clubs. Next week it will be Bayern (Munich). No I’m joking. You all know my preferred destination.

We knew for a while that Sarri was going to become the new manager. Now it’s official. If he’s a good manager? If he lets me win trophies, yes. Dries Mertens has said its a good manager. We will have to work hard. The Italian way, but we were used to that with Antonio Conte too. We will see what happens."

Isn't this the same he's been saying since may?

[Pizy 18,368]

3 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

I think Isco is out of bounds as well.  I think we'd be in the Pulisic kind of range.  Barca went out and got Dembele, which was a gamble.  But, it's easy to gamble when you have Suarez and Messi.  how wrong could it possibly go?

Pulisic would be super underwhelming for me, and I'm American. I think he's super overhyped. If he was another nationality I don't think he'd get much attention at all. People would say he's a solid player but not much more. Because he's the most talented American in years he has everyone fawning over him.

Someone mentioned Bailey and Martial. I'd settle for those two before Pulisic. Both have huge ceilings and would be actually obtainable.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

9 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Same with me in regards to Asensio. Shown flashes of brilliance but would be a massive gamble.

Isco would definitely ease the pain for most of our fans because he's super skillful and flashy. But again, he seems like an impossible target.

Not a chance we get isco. He was Lopetegu's star player in spain and as Madrid manager now he won't let him go. Kovacic on the other hand is a realistic target and we should aim for him if Hazard leaving is inevitable.

[Superblue 6,370]

1 minute ago, Shakez said:

This is the full context of the quote:

"I will go on holiday and ask myself the right questions. After six wonderful years at Chelsea, it might be time to discover something different. I can decide if I want to stay or go, but Chelsea will make the final decision – if they want to let me go.

For my career, certainly after this World Cup, I’m at a moment where I might change.

We all know that I’ve always felt well at Chelsea, and I’ve been linked to all the big clubs. Next week it will be Bayern (Munich). No I’m joking. You all know my preferred destination.

We knew for a while that Sarri was going to become the new manager. Now it’s official. If he’s a good manager? If he lets me win trophies, yes. Dries Mertens has said its a good manager. We will have to work hard. The Italian way, but we were used to that with Antonio Conte too. We will see what happens."

Isn't this the same he's been saying since may?

This to be fair is far softer than the shortened quote given which almost sounded like a transfer request. 

As some have said on here, i think he'll assess his options and see if Madrid come in first. They'll have to be quick mind because there is no way we're selling once our transfer window closes.

[Superblue 6,370]

2 minutes ago, kellzfresh said:

Not a chance we get isco. He was Lopetegu's star player in spain and as Madrid manager now he won't let him go. Kovacic on the other hand is a realistic target and we should aim for him if Hazard leaving is inevitable.

I don't see the point in Kovacic when we've just spent big on Jorginho. 

If we get another midfielder I'd far rather someone who operates higher up the pitch like Golovin.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Yeah, full quote seems a lot softer. I reckon Sarri can win him around and make him stay. It’s basically Conte’s fault he didn’t sign a contract earlier last season when it looked like he would.