sutro 1,026 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Soon as Hazard puts another worldclass performance down on the field he will be better than Neymar again,now its Neymar's turn after his performance against Psg..... Thats just how people are,only the last match counts. If you really want to compare them then you need to place Hazard in that barca team and Neymar in the chelsea team,otherwise its just quessing . Does it even matter who's the best of the two? Im glad we have Eden in our team and dont really care who's better than him killer1257 and King11Didier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 8 hours ago, sutro said: He will stay here for the rest of his career most likely. He will go down as one of the chelsea all time greats,atleast that is what i hope for but can see it easely happen. If he stays here for his whole career he will be our greatest ever player bar possibly Greaves, no question about it in my book. Chelsea? and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 18 hours ago, The Skipper said: Eden is very good domestically. He needs to elevate his level in very crucial games though. Like Didier, Lamps etc. used to do. Like Messi does. Like Suarez does. Like what Neymar just did. Eden hasn't done that here yet. @DYC. said it perfectly in his earlier post, Eden is basically still a 'talent' who still needs to add more to his game to get to that level. Neymar has already reached that though. Neymar has evolved his playmaking skills and tactical discipline, whilst retaining his goalscoring ability (not so much this season) and dribbling ability. He's complete now. Eden still isn't due to various reasons (not talent per se though). I wouldn't say either were so poor particularly either earlier in the season on Busquets and Neymar. Barcelona have had lots of ups and downs, and their form have both reflected that. They've both also had some injuries so that affects form naturally too. Their latest down was a bit longer but they've roared it back now, and are in contention to actually win the treble. Henry never scored in cup finals, can't recall him netting in a semi either compared to Didier who has scored loads in latter stages of tournaments yet barring our versions of Ty i doubt anyone would say Didier was the better player. Eden has only had one shot at the late stages of the CL and he just came back from injury and was facing a defense which was almost as good as ours in 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 If he stays here after the 2018 season, then he'll be a Chelsea lifer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Most take-ons completed in Europe's top 5 leagues since 2014/15: Eden Hazard (388) Neymar (366) Lionel Messi (363) Wilfried Zaha (311) Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Tomo said: Henry never scored in cup finals, can't recall him netting in a semi either compared to Didier who has scored loads in latter stages of tournaments yet barring our versions of Ty i doubt anyone would say Didier was the better player. Eden has only had one shot at the late stages of the CL and he just came back from injury and was facing a defense which was almost as good as ours in 2005. Eden hasn't dominated the PL like Henry yet though. He's been the best player in the EPL but he's never been as clear as Henry was at his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 5:49 PM, sutro said: Soon as Hazard puts another worldclass performance down on the field he will be better than Neymar again,now its Neymar's turn after his performance against Psg..... Thats just how people are,only the last match counts. If you really want to compare them then you need to place Hazard in that barca team and Neymar in the chelsea team,otherwise its just quessing . Does it even matter who's the best of the two? Im glad we have Eden in our team and dont really care who's better than him But he isn't in that Barcelona team. It's part of the reasons why Neymar is a level ahead of him now. We have forums to debate things like this. It's not that deep. Nothing wrong with me comparing a player to Hazard in the Hazard thread, to open a debate up. Hazard hasn't had a performance like that in his CFC career yet and he won't have the opportunity to till next season so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Tomo said: Henry never scored in cup finals, can't recall him netting in a semi either compared to Didier who has scored loads in latter stages of tournaments yet barring our versions of Ty i doubt anyone would say Didier was the better player. Eden has only had one shot at the late stages of the CL and he just came back from injury and was facing a defense which was almost as good as ours in 2005. A team has to get to cup finals before a player can even dream of scoring in semis and finals. Thierry Henry could do everything and waiving his entire Arsenal career because of a few lost finals is nonsense. The Skipper and communicate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Neymar was phenomenal in 2014/2015, since then until PSG game last Wednesday he hasn't been very impressive imo. He has the ego of a star but he is definitely no alpha, he is actually a bit of a pussy as a man actually. Sometimes he turns into a black hole ending most of Barcelona attacks by always wanting the ball and diving after a little charge. Definitely not Premiere league material. If Hazard worked with another manager instead of Mourinho for two and a half year, I think he would have been a bigger attacking thread right now. What I find funny is that some people who think Neymar is much better than Hazard have been the most ardent Mourinho supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Eden Hazard is one of a number of players Real Madrid will want to sign this summer. That is according to Guillem Balague Balague can go and fuck himself hazard going nowhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, the wes said: Eden Hazard is one of a number of players Real Madrid will want to sign this summer. That is according to Guillem Balague Balague can go and fuck himself hazard going nowhere As long as Ronaldo is there he is not going to RM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 8:39 AM, BlueLyon said: Neymar is a wonderful player indeed, but those dives are disgrace to football. Even Barca fans admited yesterday that he and Suarez are cunts when it comes to that. On another note, should Eden play in barca, he would be on same level as Neymar, but different qualities. I have no doubt about it. I completely agree with your assessment. It is good for us that he choose us but if he play for barca he will be even better than current Hazard. 1st he does not have to much defensive work, 2nd he can learn from Messi. When Hazard came in our team, he was straight away our best player, there is no one to learn from imagine if he can learn from a player like Messi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Hazard doesn't suit Real's aura at all imo. The club mostly consists of egomaniacs from top to bottom, he's far too chill and laid-back guy to fit in there. There's also immense pressure playing there, you must always perform, but who knows maybe it would benefit him. I just feel that we are a much better fit to Hazard as a club and a team. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 2 hours ago, 11Drogba said: Neymar was phenomenal in 2014/2015, since then until PSG game last Wednesday he hasn't been very impressive imo. He has the ego of a star but he is definitely no alpha, he is actually a bit of a pussy as a man actually. Sometimes he turns into a black hole ending most of Barcelona attacks by always wanting the ball and diving after a little charge. Definitely not Premiere league material. If Hazard worked with another manager instead of Mourinho for two and a half year, I think he would have been a bigger attacking thread right now. What I find funny is that some people who think Neymar is much better than Hazard have been the most ardent Mourinho supporters. I definitely wasn't an ardent Mourinho supporter... doesn't suit your narrative unfortunately. If Neymar isn't an alpha what's Hazard then? You're saying Neymar isn't PL material just because the truth hurts. Wow. Almost as bad as those that think Messi can't cut the PL. PL isn't superior to La Liga at all. Even German and Italians clubs have been consistently doing better in Europe for years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 hour ago, manpe said: Hazard doesn't suit Real's aura at all imo. The club mostly consists of egomaniacs from top to bottom, he's far too chill and laid-back guy to fit in there. There's also immense pressure playing there, you must always perform, but who knows maybe it would benefit him. I just feel that we are a much better fit to Hazard as a club and a team. If he does well in the next wc, they will come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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