🇧🇪 Eden Hazard

[Chelsea? 892]

Irrelevant? from what I've heard penalties involve taking shots. Remember the miss against Birmingham? Munich? . it's 50% shot taking, and 25% decision making and 25% attitude.

yea irrelavent. I'm talking about finishing during the game not in a specialist situation like a penalty.

[Chelsea? 892]

Exactly. Though mostly it comes to down to character and on the spot thinking ability, there is a considerable amount of technique you need to make sure the ball reaches the back of the net. but now that's going off the topic. Mata is capable of scoring a lot more goals if he can improve on it.

they are midfielders for a reason. Naturally hazard is expected to be a better finisher because of the type of player he is. But how anyone can complain about mata's finishing and find nothing wrong with eden's is a little strange.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

yea irrelavent. I'm talking about finishing during the game not in a specialist situation like a penalty.

I thought we were talking about just shooting. okay like I always do , some straight to the point statistics. Mata has an average shot accuracy of 54 % while Hazard has 60% .

[hjperdeath 2,226]

they are midfielders for a reason. Naturally hazard is expected to be a better finisher because of the type of player he is. But how anyone can complain about mata's finishing and find nothing wrong with eden's is a little strange.

I'm not complaining about Mata's finishing . All I'm saying is that in comparison with Hazard it isn't the same or better. statistically poorer.

[Chelsea? 892]

I thought we were talking about just shooting. okay like I always do , some straight to the point statistics. Mata has an average shot accuracy of 54 % while Hazard has 60% .

RVP had a 55% shooting accuracy. Luiz Suarez had 50%. Theo Walcott had 58%. That stat means very little. missing a one-on-one with the keeper saving your shot helps your accuracy. but that's obviously not the mark of a good finisher.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

RVP had a 55% shooting accuracy. Luiz Suarez had 50%. Theo Walcott had 58%. That stat means very little. missing a one-on-one with the keeper saving your shot helps your accuracy. but that's obviously not the mark of a good finisher.

RVP actually had 59, while Luis had 54 %. Then we're talking about watching it live, in that case one of us was watching an entirely different game. let's leave it at that.

[Chelsea? 892]

RVP actually had 59, while Luis had 54 %. Then we're talking about watching it live, in that case one of us was watching an entirely different game. let's leave it at that.

shot accuracy means shot on target. Shot on target doesn't make you a good finisher. Chance conversion makes you a good finisher(relatively). and 5% in shot accuracy can be the difference of one shot, especially when comparing Eden and Mata because they didn't take an overwhelming amount of shots

[hjperdeath 2,226]

shot accuracy means shot on target. Shot on target doesn't make you a good finisher. Chance conversion makes you a good finisher(relatively). and 5% in shot accuracy can be the difference of one shot, especially when comparing Eden and Mata because they didn't take an overwhelming amount of shots

as I said we can agree to disagree.

[Chelsea? 892]

as I said we can agree to disagree.

NO! I can't sleep at night with you thinking this way!

it will be interesting to see what happens this year from Eden however. hopefully he plays like he did to start of last year.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

NO! I can't sleep at night with you thinking this way!

it will be interesting to see what happens this year from Eden however. hopefully he plays like he did to start of last year.

Haha, we'll learn to eventually.

and grows much more . same for Oscar. he could buck up on his domestic form !

[The Skipper 20,609]

Mata at Chelsea is a better finisher than Hazard at Chelsea, that's not even up for debate (yet) IMO. Mata finishes his 1-on-1s far more than Hazard does.

[Chelsea? 892]

Haha, we'll learn to eventually.

and grows much more . same for Oscar. he could buck up on his domestic form !

yea, if his improvement is similar to Mata and Ramirez second season improvement, then he'll probably win epl player of the year. I think if he believes he is respondsible for our results he'll be much more aggressive

[Peace. 4,352]

I think Hazard is just as good as Iniesta when it comes to dribbling. Iniesta has a bit more finesse but Hazard makes up for that with greater balance, agility and pace.

No, Hazard is not as good as Iniesta regarding dribbles. The belgian is a very good dribbler, he's most certainly among the best in this aspect of the game, though he isn't on Iniesta level ; not yet. Of course, the difference between them isn't wide, even though, from what I have seen, there is a slightly margin between them two — slight but significant margin. In my opinion, Iniesta has a better dribbling technique, and, most importantly, his dribbles are more effective than Hazard's.

That being said, there's nothing shameful in the fact of being less good than Iniesta when it comes to dribbles. He is one of the best player of the world, one of the few genuine World-Class players, etc... And beside Messi, I fail to see anyone who's superior to him in that department (or at least significantly better than him).

If he keeps developing, then he has the tools to reach the same level of dribbling that Iniesta has. For now, while being among the best dribblers at the moment, he has still a little step to overcome before being of that caliber.

As for your definition of their style of dribbling, you're right. Iniesta is more about finess and technique (he's a Magician) while Hazard use more his athletism (agility and dynamism/pace).

[Hkibou 622]

Just passing for a rap, i'll be quick... Just reclaiming this topic, this epic failure, people debating hour after hour, about nonsense, they're all out, stating facts with confidence, with no clue, no proof, no evidence. Making up theories, "if you please, naive reader, believe my stories, as caviar, my bullshit reconsider..."
​Undignified of this shining talent, it's shameful all this rubbish, wanny say shit ? Well yeah, go fish. The belgian's potentiel is so blatant, someone gotta take a stand, or i'd predict to this topic an awful end

[Moros 86]

yea, if his improvement is similar to Mata and Ramirez second season improvement, then he'll probably win epl player of the year. I think if he believes he is respondsible for our results he'll be much more aggressive

I hope and believe he will, but we'll see. If he doesn't well, at least we'll have stuff to talk about.

[Chelsea? 892]

Just passing for a rap, i'll be quick... Just reclaiming this topic, this epic failure, people debating hour after hour, about nonsense, they're all out, stating facts with confidence, with no clue, no proof, no evidence. Making up theories, "if you please, naive reader, believe my stories, as caviar, my bullshit reconsider..."

​Undignified of this shining talent, it's shameful all this rubbish, wanny say shit ? Well yeah, go fish. The belgian's potentiel is so blatant, someone gotta take a stand, or i'd predict to this topic an awful end

what?

[Coop 114]

I'm a big fan of Hazard, but i think he should Kick some more on the goal, now he gives the ball away and gets the assist or pre assist.

Mourinho will get this in him, I'm sure.

Today on Belgium tv they where debating a new Belgium player, Bakali, 17 years old and playing for the first team of PSV.

They said he had the same characteristics then Hazard but scores more goals.

Check out this vid, especial his 3th Goal :

[hjperdeath 2,226]

I'm a big fan of Hazard, but i think he should Kick some more on the goal, now he gives the ball away and gets the assist or pre assist.

Mourinho will get this in him, I'm sure.

Today on Belgium tv they where debating a new Belgium player, Bakali, 17 years old and playing for the first team of PSV.

They said he had the same characteristics then Hazard but scores more goals.

Check out this vid, especial his 3th Goal :

Lot of talent, Bakali has. I remember buying him on FM. he still needs to work hard though, the talent is there, just needs to keep his head down and feet on the ground. At his age he's getting quite some publicity, but if he can work through that and live up to the hype, he'll be world class before he's 21.

[Coop 114]

Lot of talent, Bakali has. I remember buying him on FM. he still needs to work hard though, the talent is there, just needs to keep his head down and feet on the ground. At his age he's getting quite some publicity, but if he can work through that and live up to the hype, he'll be world class before he's 21.

This was his 5th game or something for Bakkali with the big boys, he scored many goals in the other games to.

Eden played much like him when he was 17 and played for Lille.

Eden was the only one in the team really from who it had to come, i think Eden's game changed when he moved to Chelsea, which is normal i guess.

[JDY 1,290]

He certainly needs to shoot more, but not to the extent where he's averaging 6 shots per game like C.Ronaldo/Bale. His shooting technique isn't as good as those two, therefore he shouldn't be given as much freedom as it would just be inefficient.

When I say shooting technique I don't mean in terms of quality, but the consistency of his shooting. When Messi strikes a ball, 9 times out of 10 the ball stays hit. Whether it be inside the box, outside, or at a tight angle, the shooting is crisp and with precision. With Hazard it's different. You'll see a spectacular left footed strike followed up by a tame side foot, followed by an audacious curling effort, and then a scuffed shot that is dragged wide.

Once his striking technique is consistent he will be twice the threat he is now, even more so as his left is almost as good as his right. Then there is of course the mental side. Being more decisive in the box, acting in instinct and not trying to over think things which he is sometimes guilty of when infront of goal.