David Luiz

[Beigl 1,387]

Never replaced him in midfield.

For me luiz matic >>>>> cesc matic any day

( im not advocating leaving out cesc)

Matic used to share forward passing with luiz , now he doesn't risk it. Cesc has made matic less effective.

We need someone of luiz`s presence and ability

Actually the Matic from last season (especially until January) when paired with Cesc was better than in 13/14.

[iseah100 5,612]

He's a better dm than cb

[Oscar 441]

Random. #NoRagrets

many regrets.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

People are forgetting we sold him for £50m. For a good, but not exceptional player, you don't turn that money down. Especially when you look how we reinvested it in Costa and Fabregas last summer.

[Oscar 441]

People are forgetting we sold him for £50m. For a good, but not exceptional player, you don't turn that money down. Especially when you look how we reinvested it in Costa and Fabregas last summer.

Money was never needed. We lost a potential future captain, our best CB, and steel/quality in the midfield.

Especially, with the ridiculous bid on Stones, Luiz never should of been sold.

[Ljpaddock 187]

50m doesn't sound like such an amount anymore tbh

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Money was never needed. We lost a potential future captain, our best CB, and steel/quality in the midfield.

Especially, with the ridiculous bid on Stones, Luiz never should of been sold.

1) IMO, he was never captain material. Captains needs to take responsibility, not run around playing practical jokes on people and sticking their tongue out for the cameras.

2) Never in his time at Chelsea did he establish himself as "our best CB". He had some outstanding games but if he was as good as you make out, Gary Cahill, who is bang average, wouldn't still be first-choice.

3) He was a square peg in a round hole in the midfield. He did a decent job in one or two games, but other than that, Gary Neville was correct with his Playstation analogy.

[reallyspecialone 2]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2551108-david-luiz-exclusive-you-cant-always-win-but-you-can-always-be-a-champion

[Jase 43,479]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2551108-david-luiz-exclusive-you-cant-always-win-but-you-can-always-be-a-champion

We have a 'David Luiz' thread here. Don't need to create a new one just to post an interview involving him.

[Oscar 441]

1) IMO, he was never captain material. Captains needs to take responsibility, not run around playing practical jokes on people and sticking their tongue out for the cameras.

2) Never in his time at Chelsea did he establish himself as "our best CB". He had some outstanding games but if he was as good as you make out, Gary Cahill, who is bang average, wouldn't still be first-choice.

3) He was a square peg in a round hole in the midfield. He did a decent job in one or two games, but other than that, Gary Neville was correct with his Playstation analogy.

Luiz was not a JT captain, howeven, JT made a ton of personal mistakes as well. On the field and off the field. However, the young lads listened to Luiz very well and he is vice captain on both brazil

Luiz was by far the best cb on this team for many years. Like many top agressive cbs in the world, they make mistakes and get burned often. (ramos, pique, boateng, silva, etc). He was the only proactive cb we had in many years....

Our midfield was compatible vs City and even better collectively with Luiz there and even in Europe. PSG, especially Verrati made Cesc and Matic look like youth kids.

Selling luiz for 50m and than going around and paying stupid money for Stones, makes you wonder the huge mistake selling Luiz

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Luiz was not a JT captain, howeven, JT made a ton of personal mistakes as well. On the field and off the field. However, the young lads listened to Luiz very well and he is vice captain on both brazil

Luiz was by far the best cb on this team for many years. Like many top agressive cbs in the world, they make mistakes and get burned often. (ramos, pique, boateng, silva, etc). He was the only proactive cb we had in many years....

Our midfield was compatible vs City and even better collectively with Luiz there and even in Europe. PSG, especially Verrati made Cesc and Matic look like youth kids.

Selling luiz for 50m and than going around and paying stupid money for Stones, makes you wonder the huge mistake selling Luiz

1) Fair point on different captaincy styles, but if you look at our most recent former captains - Terry, Desailly, Wise - Luiz doesn't fit the same billing.

2) I have to disagree. Ricardo Carvalho was twice as proactive and didn't make half the mistakes. He is the only defender I've ever seen that made Terry look average. Terry always looked better than Luiz - the difference is Luiz played with Terry at his lowest ebb. Carvalho played alongside JT when he was in his prime and still looked a better player. I agree he is far more proactive than our current defensive options, but right now I think we need to worry about solidarity rather than aggressive defending.

3) Luiz played his DM matches predominantly in the Europa League under Benitez. Mourinho played him there a couple of times because Matic was cup-tied. If he was so suited, he'd still be in our midfield and we'd never have had to sign Fabregas. With all due respect I think you're severely over-hyping an "okay" player.

4) I agree in sentiment, but you have to look at players like Stones and Sterling as investments. If City get eight years out of Sterling, the money they spent will be nothing. Transfer fees are only ever unjustified if you play big money for a short-term option.

[robsblubot 3,595]

1) Fair point on different captaincy styles, but if you look at our most recent former captains - Terry, Desailly, Wise - Luiz doesn't fit the same billing.

2) I have to disagree. Ricardo Carvalho was twice as proactive and didn't make half the mistakes. He is the only defender I've ever seen that made Terry look average. Terry always looked better than Luiz - the difference is Luiz played with Terry at his lowest ebb. Carvalho played alongside JT when he was in his prime and still looked a better player. I agree he is far more proactive than our current defensive options, but right now I think we need to worry about solidarity rather than aggressive defending.

3) Luiz played his DM matches predominantly in the Europa League under Benitez. Mourinho played him there a couple of times because Matic was cup-tied. If he was so suited, he'd still be in our midfield and we'd never have had to sign Fabregas. With all due respect I think you're severely over-hyping an "okay" player.

4) I agree in sentiment, but you have to look at players like Stones and Sterling as investments. If City get eight years out of Sterling, the money they spent will be nothing. Transfer fees are only ever unjustified if you play big money for a short-term option.

Please check your facts:

David played in midfield against top teams - very successfully - BOTH before and after Matic was signed in January.

He played alongside Matic often in big games. We had an amazing record when both played in midfield esp that win against city.

[iseah100 5,612]

Please check your facts:

David played in midfield against top teams - very successfully - BOTH before and after Matic was signed in January.

He played alongside Matic often in big games. We had an amazing record when both played in midfield esp that win against city.

This. Should've just converted him to CDM. He can go forward as well, so it would have been interesting. Hindsight.

[robsblubot 3,595]

This. Should've just converted him to CDM. He can go forward as well, so it would have been interesting. Hindsight.

I still think he's not the quack in defense as people make him out to be, but I was wrong in thinking that he is a great defender; he is a great player IMO esp in midfield, and I don't even think he's a CDM but more like a ball-winning cm. However, like someone else wrote, he just doesn't have the brain to read the game as a defender - Thiago Silva is almost just as dumb btw.

In moments like this I think the 50mil don't mean much if anything at all.

[Henrique 9,133]

1) IMO, he was never captain material. Captains needs to take responsibility, not run around playing practical jokes on people and sticking their tongue out for the cameras.

2) Never in his time at Chelsea did he establish himself as "our best CB". He had some outstanding games but if he was as good as you make out, Gary Cahill, who is bang average, wouldn't still be first-choice.

3) He was a square peg in a round hole in the midfield. He did a decent job in one or two games, but other than that, Gary Neville was correct with his Playstation analogy.

Eh...no. Gary Cahill was never the 1st choice. He wasn't the 1st choice for RDM and Benitez. He became Mourinho 1st choice after 10 matches of PL 2013/14 season. Being Mourinho 1st choice doesn't mean that much these days, since the defense he created is a big joke.

Despite David Luiz woeful performances he can produce at times, I think few managers around would play Cahill instead of Luiz.

I also believe your memory is not that good for a football fan. DL best performances playing as a DM actually came when Mourinho was the manager. He played superb matches against Liverpool, City and Arsenal.

Call me crazy, and I know many people won't agree with that, but I'm still not convinced Matic is really that better than Luiz as a DM. Any manager with decent balls and that can really teach players different things, would turn Luiz into one of the best DM around.