🇧🇷 David Luiz

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This whole idea that Luiz is a liability defensively is for the most part fueled by the media insisting that he is one - using ideas like the stupid 'he should move into midfield' idea to help create it. In my mind he was probably are best defender and I recall very little of his mistakes (which I don't think were that bad as some are trying to make it out) have led to goals. The likes of Terry, Ivanovic and Cahill have been much more of a liability defensively , making stupid mistakes that led to goals (Cahill backing of Adebayor and not closing him up, Terry lunging like a headless chicken against Newcastle and not marking Gervinho that led to Arsenal equalizing, Ivanovic - to many to list).

Yes if Barca offer something like £40 million then we might have to consider it. But if Jose wants David Luiz gone because he is seen as defensively a liability, to backs Terry or Cahill, then in my mind he is a flipping idiot

Hey look, a pop at Jose. You keep playing that one note.

If Barca offered £15 million for Cahill I'd say take it. If Barca offered £25 million for Ivanovic (like Monaco were rumoured to) I'd say take it. If Barca offered £10 million for JT, then I'd say consider it.

This whole discussion is based on a £30 million bid for Luiz. That is a lot of money for potential at the age of 26. I think at this point in his career the David Luiz we see play week in and week out might be who David Luiz actually is. If that's the case and there are other, younger players out there who do what Mourinho wants defenders to do for less money than it has to be considered.

[Term-X 7,891]

if luiz is sold and that complete donkey cahill remains i will be sick.

Cahill is a mere squad player though, who cost next to nothing (in the grand scheme of things), Luiz was a marquee signing who would accept nothing less than a first team place.

[bababoom 4,478]

because we paid like 23m. 7m profit for one of your best players is rubbish. we are not arsenal

We paid over the odds, He's 10th on the list of most expensive defenders.. so yeah we paid too much.

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the everton incident was his only real mistake under benitez and it would of been dealt with if cahill wasnt incompetent.

Fine, let's sell Cahill too. To me he's a good third-choice CB a bit like Ivanovic.

who would we replace him with? mangala? garay? pepe? papadopoulos? all these guys would make good partners for him

Papa and Mangala are both defenders I like because they're a bit more no-nonsense than Luiz but they're both buys based on potential. The difference is they're both young guys.

If we could get both of them for roughly the same money we'd sell Luiz for then it's got to be considered.

[haranr 485]

Luiz ain't a good CB anymore!(I mean he is good but there are much better center backs out there) If we sell him we lose a fantastic defensive midfielder but we surely can replace him so no worries lads.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

Hey look, a pop at Jose. You keep playing that one note.

If Barca offered £15 million for Cahill I'd say take it. If Barca offered £25 million for Ivanovic (like Monaco were rumoured to) I'd say take it. If Barca offered £10 million for JT, then I'd say consider it.

This whole discussion is based on a £30 million bid for Luiz. That is a lot of money for potential at the age of 26. I think at this point in his career the David Luiz we see play week in and week out might be who David Luiz actually is. If that's the case and there are other, younger players out there who do what Mourinho wants defenders to do for less money than it has to be considered.

Of course I'm going to comment on Jose, because this whole rumour started with the idea that Jose would not want him . Do you honestly have your mouth so far down his cock that you get offended when anyone makes a comment that is not licking Jose's arse. I guess you are going to say its not "worthwhile observation" again .

[mybodyisready 155]

Cahill is a mere squad player though, who cost next to nothing (in the grand scheme of things), Luiz was a marquee signing who would accept nothing less than a first team place.

I love the posts this guy makes. Short, insightful, no bullshit and straight to the point. Please post more often.

no homo of course

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

Papa and Mangala are both defenders I like because they're a bit more no-nonsense than Luiz but they're both buys based on potential. The difference is they're both young guys.

If we could get both of them for roughly the same money we'd sell Luiz for then it's got to be considered.

we'll soon find out whether Mourinho thinks Luiz is good enough.

I'd be happy with Luiz, Terry, Papa/Mangala, Cahill for next season provided that we fix up our midfield.

[lucio 5,418]

Luiz ain't a good CB anymore!(I mean he is good but there are much better center backs out there) If we sell him we lose a fantastic defensive midfielder but we surely can replace him so no worries lads.

no he is a much better centre back than defensive midfielder.

[haranr 485]

no he is a much better centre back than defensive midfielder.

Was true not anymore. Used to be a great CB in the beginning of this year and last season but since started playing CDM, lost his good marking skills. He is still doing a good job at the back but makes a lot of mistakes. Iva Cahill are better atm.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Was true not anymore. Used to be a great CB in the beginning of this year and last season but since started playing CDM, lost his good marking skills. He is still doing a good job at the back but makes a lot of mistakes. Iva Cahill are better atm.

Ivanoivc and Cahill makes alot of mistake themselves! Luiz is alot better than both of them especially Cahill!

and what are you talking about? Luiz best performances as a CB has come in 2013!!! he has performed better than ever this year much much batter than the start of the season and the season before! he is very very average as a CDM.

[Fernando 6,585]

Fans Favourite?.. Fuck Luiz

No proper Chelsea fan favours Luiz over Jose-Fucking-Mourinho.

Meh, I go for Roman over any of these two, argument settle! :blue scalf:

[haranr 485]

Ivanoivc and Cahill makes alot of mistake themselves! Luiz is alot better than both of them especially Cahill!

DUDE you cant say that! Every game Luiz played as CB since RAFA came he was bad! He became really good as a CDM but seriously if you watch his mistakes as CB they are much worse than Iva/Cahill. By the way Cahill didn;t play too much this season and he didn't get to full fit so realise that.

HOW CAN U SAY HIS BEST PREFORMANCE AS A CB CAME IN 2013 WHEN HE PLAYED CB LIKE 4 TIMES in that period.'

one more thing to get clear i dont think he is that good in CDM position he is avrege now on both positions thanks to RAFA

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Of course I'm going to comment on Jose, because this whole rumour started with the idea that Jose would not want him . Do you honestly have your mouth so far down his cock that you get offended when anyone makes a comment that is not licking Jose's arse. I guess you are going to say its not "worthwhile observation" again .

Mixed metaphors with the arse and cock references. It's best to stick with either the arse or cock and give that you're full attention, otherwise no-one is satisfied. :tophat:

(With that type of good advice I'm sure to win MOTM again).

[lucio 5,418]

DUDE you cant say that! Every game Luiz played as CB since RAFA came he was bad! He became really good as a CDM but seriously if you watch his mistakes as CB they are much worse than Iva/Cahill. By the way Cahill didn;t play too much this season and he didn't get to full fit so realise that.

HOW CAN U SAY HIS BEST PREFORMANCE AS A CB CAME IN 2013 WHEN HE PLAYED CB LIKE 4 TIMES in that period.'

one more thing to get clear i dont think he is that good in CDM position he is avrege now on both positions thanks to RAFA

no the stats clearly show david luiz and ivanovic are the best defensive pairing. they had like 5 out of 6 clean sheets. luiz has terrible positioning in midfield

[Pacquiao 1,834]

DUDE you cant say that! Every game Luiz played as CB since RAFA came he was bad! He became really good as a CDM but seriously if you watch his mistakes as CB they are much worse than Iva/Cahill. By the way Cahill didn;t play too much this season and he didn't get to full fit so realise that.

HOW CAN U SAY HIS BEST PREFORMANCE AS A CB CAME IN 2013 WHEN HE PLAYED CB LIKE 4 TIMES in that period.'

one more thing to get clear i dont think he is that good in CDM position he is avrege now on both positions thanks to RAFA

LOL! Luiz has been one of our best performers in 2013 with the majority of games he has played at CB!!! you haven't watched him much have you? he has started something like 16 games at CB in 2013, so i dont know where your getting 4 games from? he has been outstanding at CB for us! I dont know what you have been watching because if Luiz has been bad and he has been our best CB this season then how would you describe Ivanoivc, Cahill and JT's performances?

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DUDE you cant say that! Every game Luiz played as CB since RAFA came he was bad! He became really good as a CDM but seriously if you watch his mistakes as CB they are much worse than Iva/Cahill. By the way Cahill didn;t play too much this season and he didn't get to full fit so realise that.

HOW CAN U SAY HIS BEST PREFORMANCE AS A CB CAME IN 2013 WHEN HE PLAYED CB LIKE 4 TIMES in that period.'

one more thing to get clear i dont think he is that good in CDM position he is avrege now on both positions thanks to RAFA

You clearly are living in another century. He was rotated between CB and CM. I remember when we beat West Ham this season 2-0. Had an excellent game at CB. Luiz did not give their strikers a sniff. LOL and to say he is average in both positions, LMAO. Yes, he makes the odd mistakes but he certainly has improved over last few months. I thought he was our best player in the games against Swansea and United this season in our wins against them. Fulham 0-3 Chelsea three, another game at CB where he had an excellent game and scored one of the goals of the season.

Stoke 0-4 Chelsea, played at CB, another excellent game he had. So where you get your facts from I don't know but in 2013 I think he has been along our best performers. So compare his mistakes this season with his good games and come back please. You have no idea.

[Fernando 6,585]

because we paid like 23m. 7m profit for one of your best players is rubbish. we are not arsenal

Don't forget, we also gave them Matic......

So for 30 million, i say is a very bad deal.

But if Barcelona comes with a 40 mill, I say take it and run.

Surely with that amount you can buy something decent, or hecks, let's bring one of our youth like Kalas?

What I don't want to see is selling DL and getting some horrible player. Mind you that Mourinho wanted Kalou, and when he bought Mikel (After paying extra to United) he said he found gold.....

So not everything that Mourinho touches is gold.

Thus, I hope the board continues doing their good work in getting good quality players as well.

[Dion 2,476]

David Luiz was one of our best players this season and arguably the best of the second half, and his best performances were at CB. If we are selling him we'd better ask for a huge sum of money.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

40 M€ is the right price for him, no one will bid that much.