🇧🇷 David Luiz

[the wes 7,212]

Watch this space lads willian is next to sign a new deal  

[the wes 7,212]

Two clowns in one picture 

[1905didierblue 748]

1 hour ago, Stats said:

WOW. Grow the fuck up. We are through to the final ffs. You would think we lost the game judging by your reaction. He was at fault for the goal, but what shows a mental strength of a player is the way they recover. He was top notch after that. He won so many aerial challenges, especially there long set pieces they kept launching into the box and also made that pivotal clearance at the end. The BT Sport pundits also recognized he was at fault for the goal but lead by example after that. I am not denying he is error prone but imo he has been key to our play this season. We have kept 15 clean sheets in the league. The third most in the league and that is quite impressive, considering some of those clean sheets were against big teams too. And yes, I think a lot of the clean sheets was pivotally because of Luiz. He had MOTM performances in many of them. 

"Grow the fuck up"? Will that help in Luiz suddenly becoming a decent defender?

Also let me tell something to the apparent "grown ups" here, we could have lost the opportunity to be in the final because of one man - David Luiz. 

No amount of winning aerial challenges was going to correct the blunder for his absolute blunder. He is a defender, the breed who can do 99 right things, but WILL and should be judged on the 1 howler because that one howler simply and totally changes the game. Just like it did yesterday and just like it has done multiple times this season and each season where this moron has been a defender. 

His perceived and apparent MOTM performances must have been in some other virtual reality because th guy just got an extension and reading by the comments on here, I don't think I am the only one pissed with it, or do we all need to do some "growing up"?

[1905didierblue 748]

So this is what we have come to. Breaking club policies for shit, bang average players and liabilities like Luiz. 

It's going to be a long long 2 years.

[Superblue 6,372]

Wow, the reaction on here is mind blowing.

If we could buy in the summer, I could understand the reaction but we can't replace him at present.

I'm someone who is a massive advocate of giving young players chances but it must be done in the right way. Christensen was a prime example of that last season - he had a very good, solid season up until the Barca home game and then his form fell apart. The club were lucky to be able to call upon Cahill during this time, not because he is Baresi but because he was a solid, experienced option who could fill in and Christensen could be taken out of the firing line. It's far too risky for say Tomori to just be chucked straight in. I'd have no problem him being in the squad next season and gaining experience but he shouldn't be coming in directly as first choice.

On top of that, Rudiger may not be fit by the start of the season (and you don't know how well initially he'll come back from the injury, he may need easing in), Christensen is still struggling to fulfil his potential and Zouma may not be deemed suitable for Sarri (or he may want to go to Everton permanently if he's a guaranteed starter there). There are too many question marks across our back line at present to afford to just let Luiz go.

David Luiz will never be the greatest 'defender' and will always play with an element of risk but he also brings a unique skill set as a ball playing centre back that none of the rest of our players have. Hopefully Jorginho continues to improve and kick on next season like he has in recent games, and Luiz's ball playing becomes less needed in time but until that happens he's still pretty important to the whole way Sarri wants to play.

Also I don't think it should be underestimated how important he likely is off the pitch. Even the old guard are glowing in their praise of how upbeat and great Luiz is for the dressing room and whether people like to admit it or not, he is one of the few leaders we have still at the club at present. I'd love Reece James to break through next season and RLC to become a mainstay in midfield and potentially one of them could be captain material but that's one day, not now and if Luiz were to leave at present without the ability to bring in new players we would be leaving a dressing room already short of leaders, nearly devoid of any at all.

A 2 year deal isn't ideal but the club doesn't have a choice if they want to keep him, he has all the negotiating power due to the ban. There isn't anything stopping us next summer buying a new centre back and Luiz may then decide it's time to leave after one year and we either release him early or let him leave for a nominal fee. I cannot see the club suddenly changing their whole structure and offering all sorts of over 30's long term contracts as with the exception of Giroud, who we have an option on anyway, no one else has a contract expiring this year. If their contract expires in 2020 that is quite frankly irrelevant because we can buy again by then and it reverts back to us holding the negotiating power.

[DDA 9,941]

3 hours ago, Henrique said:

lol

@Jason @DDA will be pissed. 2 more years of Geezer. 2 more years of games like last night: going from the ridiculous to the sublime in the space of 90 minutes. 

Haha. I actually like Luiz and am glad he has signed the contract but he should be used as a squad player not on the starting eleven for every game.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

12 minutes ago, DDA said:

Haha. I actually like Luiz and am glad he has signed the contract but he should be used as a squad player not on the starting eleven for every game.

This. I like Luiz a lot and I see how important he is to Sarri's strategy. That being said, he shouldn't be a guaranteed starter every single game throughout the season. Christensen needs to step up his game cause this season he has been miles off Luiz's level. Maybe Zouma will come back and offer some competition but he's of course completely different type of player than Luiz and frankly I'm a little worried about his ability on the ball.

Even if we can get transfer ban postponed, any CB that is even near Luiz's quality on the ball will cost 50-100 million euros and so I'm not sure if the club wants to go that route.

[the wes 7,212]

With luiz signing a new deal that will stop Fikayo Tomori breaking in the squad or less we sell AC 

 

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, the wes said:

With luiz signing a new deal that will stop Fikayo Tomori breaking in the squad or less we sell AC 

Cahill is leaving. So that leaves his spot open for someone and it won't be wise to have Azpi play two roles in the squad. 

[whats happening 1,615]

only good thing out of this is that if we decide to sell him to some chinese club we will get a fee. nothing else.

[Jase 43,479]

30 minutes ago, DDA said:

Haha. I actually like Luiz and am glad he has signed the contract but he should be used as a squad player not on the starting eleven for every game.

If that turns out to be the case, then I'm fine with it but Luiz seems to be a Sarri favorite and I'm sure he will remain as first choice, especially if we can't sign anyone. 

[Superblue 6,372]

33 minutes ago, !Hazard! said:

This. I like Luiz a lot and I see how important he is to Sarri's strategy. That being said, he shouldn't be a guaranteed starter every single game throughout the season. Christensen needs to step up his game cause this season he has been miles off Luiz's level. Maybe Zouma will come back and offer some competition but he's of course completely different type of player than Luiz and frankly I'm a little worried about his ability on the ball.

Even if we can get transfer ban postponed, any CB that is even near Luiz's quality on the ball will cost 50-100 million euros and so I'm not sure if the club wants to go that route.

Exactly. At present, Luiz is still along with Rudiger one of our best two central defenders. During pre-season or sometime next season Sarri may look at someone else within our squad and decide otherwise or a player hits their stride to become first choice in a similar way to RLC and CHO this season.

But there is no guarantee of this, and whilst he is still first choice and trusted by the manager, it seems foolish to not retain his services.

[DDA 9,941]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

If that turns out to be the case, then I'm fine with it but Luiz seems to be a Sarri favorite and I'm sure he will remain as first choice, especially if we can't sign anyone. 

Unfortunately, I think you could be right. Sarri is seeing the mistakes he makes, so it must be his ability to pass and his chatacter that he likes.

[1905didierblue 748]

3 hours ago, Jason said:

Cahill is leaving. So that leaves his spot open for someone and it won't be wise to have Azpi play two roles in the squad. 

I think ampadu already has that spot on a lock down.

[Antonio8 736]

now just waiting for the bakayoko come back and we are ready to play the CL 

[Jase 43,479]

7 hours ago, DDA said:

Unfortunately, I think you could be right. Sarri is seeing the mistakes he makes, so it must be his ability to pass and his chatacter that he likes.

And that is why Cahill hasn't gotten a look-in for the starting XI.

[Jase 43,479]

6 hours ago, 1905didierblue said:

I think ampadu already has that spot on a lock down.

Maybe. IIRC, he got injured some time back and since then, he has like disappeared from the face of the earth.

[xPetrCechx 13,571]

We have no choise... we still have the ban shit thing...

[the wes 7,212]

1 hour ago, xPetrCechx said:

We have no choise... we still have the ban shit thing...

I disagree we could have went into the new season with Rudi Zouma AC Tomori the selected cb's for the squad 

[Stats 7,145]

16 hours ago, 1905didierblue said:

"Grow the fuck up"? Will that help in Luiz suddenly becoming a decent defender?

Also let me tell something to the apparent "grown ups" here, we could have lost the opportunity to be in the final because of one man - David Luiz. 

No amount of winning aerial challenges was going to correct the blunder for his absolute blunder. He is a defender, the breed who can do 99 right things, but WILL and should be judged on the 1 howler because that one howler simply and totally changes the game. Just like it did yesterday and just like it has done multiple times this season and each season where this moron has been a defender. 

His perceived and apparent MOTM performances must have been in some other virtual reality because th guy just got an extension and reading by the comments on here, I don't think I am the only one pissed with it, or do we all need to do some "growing up"?

Go back and read the nature of your post and look how pathetic you sound. It is embarrassing. Minus the football comments, the rest of the post is out of order and OTT. Then you might see why I said you need growing up.