LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 (edited) I have not phrased that right. What I am trying to say is that some people only chose to support Chelsea because we are now a big side. The only reason we are now a big club is due to Roman. How many would have chosen to support Chelsea had Bates still been in charge and we were a top 6 side?.Fair enough then. I'm glad you didn't mean it how I thought you did Edited May 24, 2011 by LDN Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Since you consider it necessary to ask others, let me ask you too.Would you have continued to support Chelsea had we not been bought by Roman?I'm not saying it is a bad thing that we have attracted new fans. What I am trying to say is it is down to Roman that we attracted these fans. The question was not aimed at individuals or people on here but fans in general. I have supported Chelsea since the mid 80's and I never dreamed then that we would compete with the likes of Man Ure in my lifetime. That is all down to one man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I'm not saying it is a bad thing that we have attracted new fans. What I am trying to say is it is down to Roman that we attracted these fans. The question was not aimed at individuals or people on here but fans in general. I have supported Chelsea since the mid 80's and I never dreamed then that we would compete with the likes of Man Ure in my lifetime. That is all down to one man...Fair enough. Unfortunately I wasn't here in flesh and blood during the times of Chopper, Bonetti, Cooke, Ossie, Nevin and all. But I hope to be around to see Josh, Kakuta, Clifford, etc play their way to similar iconic statures ... and yes, make sure my kids follow them as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Fair enough. Unfortunately I wasn't here in flesh and blood during the times of Chopper, Bonetti, Cooke, Ossie, Nevin and all. But I hope to be around to see Josh, Kakuta, Clifford, etc play their way to similar iconic statures ... and yes, make sure my kids follow them as well Of that list I only saw Nevin in the flesh....I'm not that old....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Of that list I only saw Nevin in the flesh....I'm not that old.......If you say so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Roman invested money and hired people to work on the football side of thing, Including the manager. If you were going by your work and your boss kept interfering and putting you under pressure, A few will work better, and the majority will start getting nervous and make mistakes. The fact is that if Roman really wants his money to be invested well, He has to stop sacking, hiring and sacking, I haven't checked but I'd imagine we've gone through more managers than any other team in the Premiership at the moment. We need a long term a manager, alot that Carlo was that long term manager, but for Chelsea I'd like to see Villa-Boas, as he's young, and he can stay at Chelsea for 10-15 years, and make us into one of the greatest teams of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 Carlo was that long term manager,Don't agree with that at all.Carlo was a trophy-coach. So he was brought in so we could lift titles in the short run, that's why we only put him on a 3-year contract. His track record with youth players was shocking and so we cannot call him long-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Don't agree with that at all.Carlo was a trophy-coach. So he was brought in so we could lift titles in the short run, that's why we only put him on a 3-year contract. His track record with youth players was shocking and so we cannot call him long-term.But with a 3 year contract in which like you say there's pressure of winning trophies, you can't take wholesale chances with kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 But with a 3 year contract in which like you say there's pressure of winning trophies, you can't take wholesale chances with kids.You people say he was sacked because of a trophyless season. I'm sure Roman is not stupid to say: "humm, if a manager dont win a trophy I'll axe him!!!".Roman is not a stupid child. He is a business man. I can't believe how people picture him as a stupid man, who use Chelsea as his toy. He is self made man, he is not a stupid sheik who was born in a golden bed. He knows that football is not "manager mode" in Fifa 11.Carlo was sacked because of his poor form as a manager, wich include his total failure build a system who would suit a 50m signing. Torres was destined to be a huge flop if Carlo was the manager in next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 But with a 3 year contract in which like you say there's pressure of winning trophies, you can't take wholesale chances with kids.Yeah of course. Which is why I doubt he ever a long-term answer. I honestly don't believe the selection of Ancelotti was made for a long term future. I think the board was blinded by the Champions League, which is why the prized him away from the San Siro. It's the only logical reason why he was scouted. I don't like talking about his history a lot - there have been numerous arguments on here about that - but it does give us a very clear insight into why he was selected to take over from Hiddink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 You people say he was sacked because of a trophyless season. I'm sure Roman is not stupid to say: "humm, if a manager dont win a trophy I'll axe him!!!".He wouldn't have been sacked if we'd won the CL. Or another double, something big like that. They said it themselves, ''results are not upto the mark'' which means even if we'd played poorly but got results, he'd still be in charge. Carlo was sacked because of his poor form as a manager, wich include his total failure build a system who would suit a 50m signing. Torres was destined to be a huge flop if Carlo was the manager in next season.That's not a fact, it's your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 He wouldn't have been sacked if we'd won the CL. Or another double, something big like that. They said it themselves, ''results are not upto the mark'' which means even if we'd played poorly but got results, he'd still be in charge. That's not a fact, it's your opinion.I believe in the rumours that his fate was sealed after CL exit. Journalists close to the brazilian players said that there was a talk the even a PL trophy wasn't enough to save his job.But we all here are discussing our opinions. You said that he was sacked because the lack of trophies. This is also an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 More than likely, Alot went on that we did not and probably will never know about. Ancelloti could have stuck up for Wilkins, Or he could have make it known that he wasn't happy with Roman getting involved in the team either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RX8 40 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 There is no Doubt about Roman He is been a Great Owner probably the Best in the PL. What he does is because for what he Pay He demand Results and the Highest and because of that not much manager cand handle Chelsea.I do belive He has learn a lot and the last 10 years... and that´s Why He will bring Mou Back and let him Work for many Year.... Right Now We just need to Respect the Decision and Support the Team, Spect the Best and SAy ALWAYS THANK U ROMAN FOR ALL THE HAPPIES YEARS OF CHELSEA FCSALUD TO ROMAN ABRAMOVICH THE BEST OWNER A CLUB CAN HAVE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 It's not bashing Roman.It's just that odd feeling, when you don't know what's happening. We deserve to bi informed don't we?Reading that 5 of footballing people are leaving this club was confusing. And it was the same when Ray was sacked.If he wants to invest and make things right, why hasn't he bought some players last summer?Maybe Benfica and Liverpool didn't want to sell, but where was their plan b? If the board did better we would have better season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Carlo was not treated like shit. He was sacked because he deserved to be. He got 6m to leave and the club relesead a respectful statement. I wish I was treated like shit with 6m in my pocket.you think that standard statement on the clubs website was respectful ,,,,BULLSHIT ...the only respect shown to him was by Terry ,, Lamps and Ash ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 But we all here are discussing our opinions. You said that he was sacked because the lack of trophies. This is also an opinion.Of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 You people say he was sacked because of a trophyless season. I'm sure Roman is not stupid to say: "humm, if a manager dont win a trophy I'll axe him!!!".Roman is not a stupid child. He is a business man. I can't believe how people picture him as a stupid man, who use Chelsea as his toy. He is self made man, he is not a stupid sheik who was born in a golden bed. He knows that football is not "manager mode" in Fifa 11.Carlo was sacked because of his poor form as a manager, wich include his total failure build a system who would suit a 50m signing. Torres was destined to be a huge flop if Carlo was the manager in next season.so now Sheiks are stupid ,,,despite many being educated at the finest Universities in the world ..I would also remind you that in the past the Midd;e east produced some of the Worlds greatest early scholars..Our number system was developed from Arabic numerals .a great improvementon the Roman system Finally Algebra was invented by an Arab . So to call the stupid is the height of ignorance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 so now Sheiks are stupid ,,,despite many being educated at the finest Universities in the world ..I would also remind you that in the past the Midd;e east produced some of the Worlds greatest early scholars..Our number system was developed from Arabic numerals .a great improvementon the Roman system Finally Algebra was invented by an Arab . So to call the stupid is the height of ignoranceCome on, you know what he meant.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Come on, you know what he meant..He meant Sheiks are stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.