Politics & Stuff

[robsblubot 3,595]

Just now, Fulham Broadway said:

Just thought perhaps he is really mentally ill  - was thinking if it was a black bloke acting like that they would have sectioned him, injected, whisked away by men in white coats

He's always been a little mentally ill and age plus covid recently sure did not help. His Niece's book go into that - lots of interviews by her on the subject.

The biggest con in history is how he was able to convince people he's this amazing businessman. His 300 million tax free inheritance (as reported by the NYT) and his multiple failures just show how bad he is in his business. That's what Bloomberg has been saying, that they know trump in NYC so he never gets anything there.

My prediction is that we will both see a lot of shit getting uncovered - he did use the DOJ in unprecedented ways, for example - as well as pardons. It does not look like he can pardon himself, so maybe he will quit to get a Pence pardon? 

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

Bit of research and its easy to come to the conclusion humans disappearing from the planet would not be such a bad thing.

We make up 30% of land creatures. Only 4% of land animals are free and wild.

The other 66% are farmed and killed.

We wiped out around 10 000 species in the last 12 months alone.

We torture, kill and eat 3 billion land and sea creatures every day. Much of the stuff dragged out the sea is ground up and fed to cattle for us to eat.

Countries like UK, US, Europe buy grain from developing countries to feed the meat animals, yet those countries dont have enough to feed their own population.

I'm no hippy, but politics needs to address this imo, instead of being obsessed with profit all the time

[lucio 5,418]

3 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Bit of research and its easy to come to the conclusion humans disappearing from the planet would not be such a bad thing.

We make up 30% of land creatures. Only 4% of land animals are free and wild.

The other 66% are farmed and killed.

We wiped out around 10 000 species in the last 12 months alone.

We torture, kill and eat 3 billion land and sea creatures every day. Much of the stuff dragged out the sea is ground up and fed to cattle for us to eat.

Countries like UK, US, Europe buy grain from developing countries to feed the meat animals, yet those countries dont have enough to feed their own population.

I'm no hippy, but politics needs to address this imo, instead of being obsessed with profit all the time

We wont dissapear any time soon, but human civilisation will probably collapse in the next century or so, with disastrous consequences for most of the population,  weak vegan hippy types wont make the cut, particularly in northern latitudes 

 

 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

9 minutes ago, lucio said:

We wont dissapear any time soon, but human civilisation will probably collapse in the next century or so, with disastrous consequences for most of the population,  weak vegan hippy types wont make the cut, particularly in northern latitudes 

 

 

The collapse ( the great reset ) will come much sooner than that imo.

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

37 minutes ago, lucio said:

We wont dissapear any time soon, but human civilisation will probably collapse in the next century or so, with disastrous consequences for most of the population,  weak vegan hippy types wont make the cut, particularly in northern latitudes 

 

 

There will be more zootropic diseases coming quick and fast as we breed more, they feed on us, covid will look like a picnic. 

Lots of studies showing vegans and vegetarians are stronger than consumers of hormone ridden anti biotic injected animal corpses.

 

[lucio 5,418]

11 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

There will be more zootropic diseases coming quick and fast as we breed more, they feed on us, covid will look like a picnic. 

Lots of studies showing vegans and vegetarians are stronger than consumers of hormone ridden anti biotic injected animal corpses.

 

Organic meat is fine, the average vegetable you buy has been drenched in all manner of chemicals and pesticides too. Vegan and vegetarian men have much lower fertility , they will die out by themselves 

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200127-how-a-vegan-diet-could-affect-your-intelligence

Animal fats are key to intelligence , humans would never have evolved without our ancestors making  meat a large part of their diets

[lucio 5,418]

I agree with the animal related diseases , that's inevitable with domestic animals , hunter gatherer societies in Africa have very few diseases,  and the ones they do get infected by are usually spread by their pastoralist neighbours. Hunter gatherer is our default natural society, unfortunately we wont be able to revert to that for a long time 

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

7 minutes ago, lucio said:

Organic meat is fine, the average vegetable you buy has been drenched in all manner of chemicals and pesticides too. Vegan and vegetarian men have much lower fertility , they will die out by themselves 

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200127-how-a-vegan-diet-could-affect-your-intelligence

Animal fats are key to intelligence , humans would never have evolved without our ancestors making  meat a large part of their diets

Organic vegetables are fine. Unfortunately the dairy lobby is a great lobby of government, and gets reciprocal kick backs to promote anti biotic ridden corpses. This makes these meat eaters less responsive when they get ill to anti biotics themselves.

For every study there's a counter study 

Why Vegetarians Are More Intelligent Than Meat Eaters | Psychology Today

Anyway cant trust  the BBC study they are lefty remainers after all

[lucio 5,418]

People who adopt any kind of diet , vegetarian , paleo,  pescatarian etc ,are going to be more intelligent, dumb people dont think about nutrition, they just live off tesco meal deals 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

Yeah I cant fathom so so many of us love to eat dirty cheap trash foods, that shit will fuck you up at some point. Some of my neigbours visit MD like 4 times a week, trash food man.

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

11 minutes ago, lucio said:

People who adopt any kind of diet , vegetarian , paleo,  pescatarian etc ,are going to be more intelligent, dumb people dont think about nutrition, they just live off tesco meal deals 

My bigger point was about the planet as a whole, and its sustainability rather than on an individual level. Its mental that 66% of animals on our planet are bred and for profit and cheap meat that is draining resources. On the individual level I agree, eating dead stuff that has  been injected with hormones affecting gender, giving blokes bitch tits, and all for cheap cuts or burgers is proper stupid.

[Atomiswave 6,117]

4 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

My bigger point was about the planet as a whole, and its sustainability rather than on an individual level. Its mental that 66% of animals on our planet are bred and for profit and cheap meat that is draining resources. On the individual level I agree, eating dead stuff that has  been injected with hormones affecting gender, giving blokes bitch tits, and all for cheap cuts or burgers is proper stupid.

Question is how is this allowed, filling the animals with hormone for profits, that shit is not healthy in the long run. We are like sheeps, afraid of the wolve, not knowing the sheapered will lead us to the slaughterhouse. And when you say blokes bitch tits you mean gyno yeah? If so taking steroids will do the same to a man, bitch tits all over.

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

13 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Question is how is this allowed,

I think the meat and dairy lobby is very powerful. It is generally rich landowners, who obviously get richer on the arrangement,  but the amount of land needed to feed these animals is monster.

British farmers depend greatly on EU subsidies, the present government have promised to equal these though problems could get worse. eg growth promoters and present hormone injections such as oestradiol 17ß, testosterone, progesterone, zeranol, trenbolone acetate and melengestrol acetate (MGA) are all banned by the EU. These will be legal in the UK on Jan 1st

[lucio 5,418]

British landowners are often very stubborn,  they block the reintroduction of the lynx because they are too lazy to protect their sheep. The British isles are so devoid of forests because of overgrazing and not enough hunting of deer/no big predators. Ireland in particular is basically a green desert at this point 

[robsblubot 3,595]

I find it funny to be honest, when I discuss global warming with religious folks which are encouraged to have kids.

Some drive a prius and have 4 kids... While I am not one to judge personal choices, I find it a bit hypocritical to preach about global warming when you are increasing the world's carbon footprint by a lot.

I usually end the discussion by asking what the end game strategy might be? cover the earth with people and shit?

And how about jobs? The jobs are going away... not because of immigrants lol, but automation and AI.

The answer of course is, we don't have one (end game strategy).