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[Vesper 30,235]

2 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Wtf, to compare these two is fucking ridiculous 

Donald Trump's history with Adolf Hitler and his Nazi writings: ANALYSIS

Even after backlash, Trump again echoed his words at a campaign rally.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-history-adolf-hitler-nazi-writings-analysis/story?id=105810745

 

At his campaign rally in Iowa this week, Donald Trump once again broke new ground, becoming the first leading presidential candidate to find it necessary to insist he had never read the most infamous book of the 20th century.

"I never read 'Mein Kampf,'" Trump said, referring to Adolf Hitler's manifesto ("My Struggle") that provided the philosophical basis for Nazi Germany and, ultimately, the murder of more than 6 million Jews in the Holocaust.

This was the first time Trump had invoked Hitler's name and the title of his memoir at a political rally, but there have been multiple reports over the years of Trump expressing a keen interest in, even admiration for, Hitler's rule over Nazi Germany.

In the past, he's actually acknowledged owning a copy of the book.

Trump's denial that he had read Hitler's memoir came after he has made a series of incendiary remarks in recent weeks referring to his political opponents as "vermin" and saying illegal immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country."

There's no question that language echoes that Hitler used to describe his enemies, but there may have been some question about whether Trump knew he was using the same words Hitler used to justify his murderous and genocidal rule of Nazi Germany.

Now, after backlash that his words echoed Hitler's, however, there is no doubt.

"They said Hitler said that," Trump said Tuesday after he again told the crowd in Iowa that immigrants are "poisoning the blood" of America.

After insisting Hitler used the words "in a much different way," Trump went on to make the "blood" reference again. "It's true. They're destroying the blood of the country, they're destroying the fabric of our country, and we're going to have to get them out."

In other words, Trump's response when criticized for using Hitler's language was to acknowledge the criticism and then to use it again. Whether he is telling the truth about not ever reading "Mein Kampf," there have been multiple reports of Trump privately admiring Hitler.

As president, Trump reportedly complained that America's military leaders were not "totally loyal" to him, telling his chief of staff, retired Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly, "Why can't you be like the German generals?"

As reported in "The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021" by Peter Baker and Susan Glasser, Kelly responded by pointing out Nazi generals "tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off."

And as I reported in "Tired of Winning: Donald Trump and the End of the Grand Old Party," Trump boasted to a Republican congressman that German Chancellor Angela Merkel had told him there was "only one" leader in history who had attracted crowds as large as Trump.

"She told me she was amazed at the size of the crowds that came to see me speak," Trump told the Republican congressman. "She said she could never get crowds like that. In fact, she told me that there was only one other political leader who ever got crowds as big as mine."

The Republican congressman, a close ally of Trump's, couldn't tell whether Trump knew that Merkel was referring to Hitler, who, of course, attracted massive crowds throughout his rule of Nazi Germany.

"And I'm thinking," the congressman told me while recounting his interaction with Trump, "you knew who she is talking about, right?"

Back in 1990 -- decades before he got into politics, Trump reportedly acknowledged owning a copy of "Mein Kampf." The admission came in an interview with Vanity Fair shortly after his divorce from his first wife, Ivana. Here's what the magazine reported:

"Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, "My New Order," which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of "My New Order" in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade."

Vanity Fair reporter Marie Brenner asked Trump if his cousin had given up a copy of the book to him. She wrote this is how Trump responded:

"Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of 'Mein Kampf,' and he's a Jew," Trump told Brenner.

Brenner then asked Marty Davis whether he gave Trump a copy of the book.

"I did give him a book about Hitler,' Davis told her. "But it was 'My New Order,' Hitler's speeches, not 'Mein Kampf.' I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I'm not Jewish."

Brenner then wrote that Trump told her: "If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them."

In other words, Trump's denial in Iowa that he had read "Mein Kampf" was not the first time he has denied reading Hitler -- or the first time there was reason for him to issue such a denial.

 

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,336]

2 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Wtf, to compare these two is fucking ridiculous 

One user asked: 'why would you write this?

Cleese replied: 'Because I've never tried to amuse the simple-minded. There are plenty of comics who do, and you will enjoy them.'

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

"I never read 'Mein Kampf,'"

well everybody knows he can't does not read.

[Fulham Broadway 17,336]

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,336]

At least 21,507 people have been killed in Gaza since the war with Israel broke out nearly 12 weeks ago (Reuters). Another estimated 15 000 are buried under rubble. That figure included 187 fatalities over the previous 24 hours. At least 308 people have been killed while sheltering in UN shelters.

South Africa has launched a case against Israel at the UN’s international court of justice (ICJ) accusing the state of committing genocide in its military campaign in Gaza.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

They even got the president of Harvard ousted.

 

Israel's power is untouchable in the west.

[MoroccanBlue 5,385]

On 30/12/2023 at 03:20, Fulham Broadway said:

At least 21,507 people have been killed in Gaza since the war with Israel broke out nearly 12 weeks ago (Reuters). Another estimated 15 000 are buried under rubble. That figure included 187 fatalities over the previous 24 hours. At least 308 people have been killed while sheltering in UN shelters.

South Africa has launched a case against Israel at the UN’s international court of justice (ICJ) accusing the state of committing genocide in its military campaign in Gaza.

 Israel has just killed a Hamas leader in Beirut with a precision strike without much damage. More proof that they have the resources and backing for these precision attacks.

These bombings and genocidal killings of innocents, mostly children, just means they want to flatten Gaza for future illegal settlements.

Hamas is an excuse. A weapon of mass distraction. 

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,336]

3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

 Israel has just killed a Hamas leader in Beirut with a precision strike without much damage. More proof that they have the resources and backing for these precision attacks.

These bombings and genocidal killings of innocents, mostly children, just means they want to flatten Gaza for future illegal settlements.

Hamas is an excuse. A weapon of mass distraction. 

 

They actively state they are going to bomb civilians, women and children. They stated they will stop all water, food and electricity to 2.3 million civilians. This is genocide. 

 

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On 28/12/2023 at 20:58, Vesper said:

cosmic is winding you up m8, he knows damn well where Yorkshire is, lolol

Wait, there is a difference between England and Scotland?? I always thought these are the same 😏

[cosmicway 1,333]

On 05/01/2024 at 00:31, Gundalf said:

Wait, there is a difference between England and Scotland?? I always thought these are the same 😏

The English are wild peoples, the Scots are civilized.
It seems the English are left with very few friends nowadays.
Back in 2006 I was invited to the VIP of Athens race course.
I sat on a table in the company of some Irish and there was an embassy attache with them.
The Irish wanted to sell horses to Greek owners.
It was world cup days and some of the tv screens were broadcasting football from Germany.
Our attention was drawn to the tv screens showing the race horses of course but from somewhere I heard the announcement England had scored against Equador.
So I says "wow, nice, England one up".
The embassy man became rather uncourteous "shame on you" he says "you support the scum".

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

13 hours ago, cosmicway said:

The English are wild peoples, the Scots are civilized.
It seems the English are left with very few friends nowadays.
Back in 2006 I was invited to the VIP of Athens race course.
I sat on a table in the company of some Irish and there was an embassy attache with them.
The Irish wanted to sell horses to Greek owners.
It was world cup days and some of the tv screens were broadcasting football from Germany.
Our attention was drawn to the tv screens showing the race horses of course but from somewhere I heard the announcement England had scored against Equador.
So I says "wow, nice, England one up".
The embassy man became rather uncourteous "shame on you" he says "you support the scum".

The weirdest thing about visiting Europe was seeing that other Europeans dont really like the English that much.

 

I mean coming from America, who fought two wars against them, England is pretty loved here.  We love their stars, their tv(although repackaged as ours), their royal family. I remember back in the 00's that even having a "posh" accent was enough for women to sleep with you. It holds cache over here for sure.

[cosmicway 1,333]

8 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

The weirdest thing about visiting Europe was seeing that other Europeans dont really like the English that much.

 

I mean coming from America, who fought two wars against them, England is pretty loved here.  We love their stars, their tv(although repackaged as ours), their royal family. I remember back in the 00's that even having a "posh" accent was enough for women to sleep with you. It holds cache over here for sure.

The royal family is half Greek first of all.
But these days they can do nothing.
The Tories would go about with their heads tucked underneath their arm for starters.

Edited January 7, 2024 by cosmicway

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

16 hours ago, cosmicway said:

The royal family is half Greek first of all.
But these days they can do nothing.
The Tories would go about with their heads tucked underneath their arm for starters.

They are just about half German too, but to us they simple just represent the English exoticism that was en vogue in America for large parts of the 20th century.

 

I dont think the average person in America could find Greece on a map😂

[Fulham Broadway 17,336]

On 06/01/2024 at 16:04, Sir Mikel OBE said:

The weirdest thing about visiting Europe was seeing that other Europeans dont really like the English that much.

 

I mean coming from America, who fought two wars against them, England is pretty loved here.  We love their stars, their tv(although repackaged as ours), their royal family. I remember back in the 00's that even having a "posh" accent was enough for women to sleep with you. It holds cache over here for sure.

Lived in Long Beach for a while and visited a club one night, the Red Onion (where OJ Simpson picked up a waitress that he later married and murdered, allegedly). Anyway I was pissed (inebriated not angry) and the doormen just werent letting me in.....then ''hey you're English ? Come in my man''

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

3 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Lived in Long Beach for a while and visited a club one night, the Red Onion (where OJ Simpson picked up a waitress that he later married and murdered, allegedly). Anyway I was pissed (inebriated not angry) and the doormen just werent letting me in.....then ''hey you're English ? Come in my man''

Yea. I think its the James Bond effect. If you're English in America, you're seen as cool😂

[cosmicway 1,333]

5 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

They are just about half German too, but to us they simple just represent the English exoticism that was en vogue in America for large parts of the 20th century.

 

I dont think the average person in America could find Greece on a map😂

I think CIA are lousy secret agents.
Only MI5 are real secret agents.
 

[Fulham Broadway 17,336]

18 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

Yea. I think its the James Bond effect. If you're English in America, you're seen as cool😂

Similar scenario here Americans are seen as cool - though people are people at the end of the day regardless of which bit of land they come from. Though its funny, if you really want to upset a Canadian -ask them where in the US are you from ? They go ballistic

[Fulham Broadway 17,336]

 

[Vesper 30,235]

AIPAC vs. AOC & The Squad: Pro-Israel Lobby Group to Spend $100M to Target Progressive Lawmakers

 

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David Cameron getting rinsed during Israel-Gaza grilling at Select Committee